El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead

1.2.3 · 06-29-2007, 12:52 PM

El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead
Track by Track Review

1. "Tasmanian Pain Coaster" - 3/5 (beat = 5/5)

2. "Smithereens (Stop Cryin)" - 4.5/5 (beat = 5/5)

3. "Up All Night" - 2.5/5 (beat = 4/5)

4. "EMG" - 4/5 (beat = 5/5)

5. "Drive" - 3/5 (beat = 4.5/5)

6. "Dear Sirs" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5)

7. "Run the Numbers" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5)

8. "Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5)

9. "The Overly Dramatic Truth" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5)

10. "Flyentology" - 4.5/5 (beat = 5/5)

11. "No Kings" - 3/5 (beat = 4.5/5)

12. "The League of Extraordinary Nobodies" - 4/5 (beat = 5/5)

13. "Poisenville Kids No Wins" - 5/5 (beat = 4/5)

overall: i dont see how people aren't considering this album the best this year. This is the best production i've heard in a long time, the lyrics are amazing and the concepts blow me away. beat wise i give it a 5/5 but overall this one gets a 4.5/5. another possible classic by El Producto.

here's a sample track.. "smithereens"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSweMvre30

minip · 06-29-2007, 01:30 PM

good review...when did this come out?

A.T.I. · 06-29-2007, 02:10 PM

the shit was way too left for my liking the first time around, but I'll prolly give it another listen, props for the review

Montana Diary · 06-29-2007, 02:23 PM

This album put me to sleep. I might give it another listen... when I'm putridly bored. And I've said it once, I'mma say it again, the best this year is gonna be The Show by eMC. Masta Ace > your favourite emcee

~Young Gunna~ · 06-29-2007, 02:43 PM

so far its monch no doubt....

neva heard dis album yet but the production should be dope lik u say...it better be lol

1.2.3 · 06-29-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minip

good review...when did this come out?

mid march i think.

Shyne · 06-30-2007, 01:13 AM

Yeah I put ATI onto this album but I dont think he gave it enough time to sink it, it really takes multiple listens to get. Its one of my top 3 albums of the year though, im praying he does like he did with Fan Dam and puts out a instrumental version of it with some remixes. the production itself is worth the listen.

Deep South Kid · 06-30-2007, 01:21 AM

I had to admit this...The only reason I checked the album was: The Mars Volta. And they didn't do a good job, I guess they can't do much on a rap track. The album was nice though. Like Shyne said, it needs to be spinned at least 3 o 4 times to let it into your system. (no homo)

Forceful · 06-30-2007, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montana Diary

This album put me to sleep. I might give it another listen... when I'm putridly bored. And I've said it once, I'mma say it again, the best this year is gonna be The Show by eMC. Masta Ace > your favourite emcee

*Gasps*

You Started A Sentence With The Word "And".

Ps. I Never Reallllly Listened To El-P....Heard One Or Two Of His Songs...Wasn't Feeling His Shit That Much

Shyne · 06-30-2007, 01:32 AM

he's a hard artist to get into, he has a "run on sentence" type of style that never stops and gives you time to soak it in. it takes multiple listens to get it all.

Forceful · 06-30-2007, 01:36 AM

^^^I Think I'll Go Give Him Another Listen Just Because You Recommended Him Shyne
<3 (um.....)

Shyne · 06-30-2007, 02:05 AM

"Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)" ft Cage = Best track. el-p's a dope story teller. dude flips a interesting story on that track.

Forceful · 06-30-2007, 03:27 AM

Never Listened To Cage Either

..

Imma Check It Out..

A.T.I. · 07-06-2007, 04:02 AM

well, it wasn't completely horrible like I first thought, but still nothing too amazing. Like you said, production was good, and the raps, well they were pretty decent too. 3-3.5/5 imo

1.2.3 · 07-06-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyne

"Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)" ft Cage = Best track. el-p's a dope story teller. dude flips a interesting story on that track.

really dope track but my fav is definitly "Run the Numbers". that cure for cancer line from Aesop is golden.

Shyne · 07-06-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.2.3

really dope track but my fav is definitly "Run the Numbers". that cure for cancer line from Aesop is golden.

word, was it you or ATI I was talking to about that very same line?

1.2.3 · 07-06-2007, 08:27 PM

^ wasnt me (no shaggy).

Deep South Kid · 07-07-2007, 01:43 AM

Word....Its hard for me too, sometimes to differ between A.T.I. and 1.2.3...I guess three characters with dots separating them is enough to look like each other.

DJ Shinobi [RA] · 07-07-2007, 09:55 AM

El P is whack, i wish i could find the video of the ostrich synced with his voice but oh well.

Shyne · 07-07-2007, 12:17 PM

Dont front on El Ra, dude has dropped some classic verses, how many mc's can spit a verse this long and have damn near every ber be a standout line?

[El-P]
I brought that genuine shit in '96
Before you knew the underground or independent existed
I watched the whole scene straight jump on the dick
After stepping to KCR lit and flexing my shit
No gun talk, no gimmicks, just rounds of raw-dogging
Dirty dusty intelligent wit and word murdering
A hardcore poetic informed without burglary
Potent and shook the shit out of rappers who just learned of me
Everytime I prescribe a new pill, revolution
Quickly defined the standard for indie rap distribution
Arrogant unafraid shit developed riding a train thinking of brain fucks
"Bad Touch Example" that soon became bucks
Had everybody sprung wondering where I came from
Screaming out "Independent as fuck" with an insane tongue
With an indelible squad of design monsters
Innovating the styles that made biters look like imposters
So we scripted an album and signed to Rawkus
Selling a hundred thousand without a radio chart hit
Imposterous son is taking the world hostage
Classic hip-hop bombage dirty with style progress
Now I've come from the '80s juvenile Brooklyn
Where cats was like: "Gimme that subway pass, kid. Good lookin."
Now someone else is taking a ride with what's mine
So I had to develop styles with a death device cooked in
So when I battled in basements I had eight sentences
Waiting ready for the four you had laced in
And I was taught to wait patient (Why?)
Only faggots make shit up just to get famous
So when I finally blew up I remained sick
Earning respect in ghettos and 'burbs for word placement
Back when the independent scene remained faceless
We were the only crew who promised your ass we'd take it
Mold it, shape it, living outside the matrix
Hold it, make it, more than miniature major labels
Hold it sacred, living it for the culture
Told ya plainly, protected it from the vultures
That's why I always get respect from true soldiers
That laugh at the critics claiming every year: "Hip hop's over."
FUCK YOU, hip hop just started
It's funny how the most nostalgic cats are the ones who were never part of it
But true veterans'll give dap to those who started it
Then humbly move the fuck on and come with that new retarded shit
New slang, new thought, new sound, new heart, you thought you hang
You clown, you don't, you drown
I won't dumb it down, I'm dumbing now for these rounds
I'm a live mothefucker plus I'm gunning for clowns
You're a mime motherfucker, don't be coming for pounds
Till you can break out of that invisible box, you're not down
My favorite ones are the ones who started out young rappin about
Comic books, spaceships, and Omnicron 1
And even though they were soft they had fun
But they couldn't break out the frame of the town they came from
Some of these faggots used to send me their demos
Keeping their puppy styles in the Company Flow kennels
But since they had no identity from the start
They started to resent the scene when they couldn't become a part

They've been failing for years and call themselves Vets, that's bold
Motherfucker, you're not a Vet you're just old
I'll slap the shit out you to continue my nerd rap
Making this money fist over fist, fuck what you heard
Rookie cats talk about boom bap and golden ages
Pat themselves on the back for making that new outdated shit
But i've been putting out vinyl since '93 and never looked back once
At ya'll trying to chase me
You don't innovate because you can't innovate
It's not a choice despite what you might tell your boys
Keep your identity crisis under the table
I always knew who I was and I'll always be more famous

DJ Shinobi [RA] · 07-10-2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyne

Dont front on El Ra, dude has dropped some classic verses, how many mc's can spit a verse this long and have damn near every ber be a standout line?

[El-P]
I brought that genuine shit in '96
Before you knew the underground or independent existed
I watched the whole scene straight jump on the dick
After stepping to KCR lit and flexing my shit
No gun talk, no gimmicks, just rounds of raw-dogging
Dirty dusty intelligent wit and word murdering
A hardcore poetic informed without burglary
Potent and shook the shit out of rappers who just learned of me
Everytime I prescribe a new pill, revolution
Quickly defined the standard for indie rap distribution
Arrogant unafraid shit developed riding a train thinking of brain fucks
"Bad Touch Example" that soon became bucks
Had everybody sprung wondering where I came from
Screaming out "Independent as fuck" with an insane tongue
With an indelible squad of design monsters
Innovating the styles that made biters look like imposters
So we scripted an album and signed to Rawkus
Selling a hundred thousand without a radio chart hit
Imposterous son is taking the world hostage
Classic hip-hop bombage dirty with style progress
Now I've come from the '80s juvenile Brooklyn
Where cats was like: "Gimme that subway pass, kid. Good lookin."
Now someone else is taking a ride with what's mine
So I had to develop styles with a death device cooked in
So when I battled in basements I had eight sentences
Waiting ready for the four you had laced in
And I was taught to wait patient (Why?)
Only faggots make shit up just to get famous
So when I finally blew up I remained sick
Earning respect in ghettos and 'burbs for word placement
Back when the independent scene remained faceless
We were the only crew who promised your ass we'd take it
Mold it, shape it, living outside the matrix
Hold it, make it, more than miniature major labels
Hold it sacred, living it for the culture
Told ya plainly, protected it from the vultures
That's why I always get respect from true soldiers
That laugh at the critics claiming every year: "Hip hop's over."
FUCK YOU, hip hop just started
It's funny how the most nostalgic cats are the ones who were never part of it
But true veterans'll give dap to those who started it
Then humbly move the fuck on and come with that new retarded shit
New slang, new thought, new sound, new heart, you thought you hang
You clown, you don't, you drown
I won't dumb it down, I'm dumbing now for these rounds
I'm a live mothefucker plus I'm gunning for clowns
You're a mime motherfucker, don't be coming for pounds
Till you can break out of that invisible box, you're not down
My favorite ones are the ones who started out young rappin about
Comic books, spaceships, and Omnicron 1
And even though they were soft they had fun
But they couldn't break out the frame of the town they came from
Some of these faggots used to send me their demos
Keeping their puppy styles in the Company Flow kennels
But since they had no identity from the start
They started to resent the scene when they couldn't become a part

They've been failing for years and call themselves Vets, that's bold
Motherfucker, you're not a Vet you're just old
I'll slap the shit out you to continue my nerd rap
Making this money fist over fist, fuck what you heard
Rookie cats talk about boom bap and golden ages
Pat themselves on the back for making that new outdated shit
But i've been putting out vinyl since '93 and never looked back once
At ya'll trying to chase me
You don't innovate because you can't innovate
It's not a choice despite what you might tell your boys
Keep your identity crisis under the table
I always knew who I was and I'll always be more famous

MC Paul Barman, sucka!

Shyne · 07-10-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Shinobi [RA]

MC Paul Barman, sucka!

lol. I have a MC Paul Barman cd. dude made me laugh so much I copped it for $2. best $2 ever spent. he makes me laugh to no end

]

P.S. plus he got production from Prince Paul so that didnt hurt either.

06-29-2007, 12:52 PM	#1
1.2.3 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: new york Posts: 1,388 Repped: 166 Repped 40 Times in 19 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead El-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead Track by Track Review 1. "Tasmanian Pain Coaster" - 3/5 (beat = 5/5) 2. "Smithereens (Stop Cryin)" - 4.5/5 (beat = 5/5) 3. "Up All Night" - 2.5/5 (beat = 4/5) 4. "EMG" - 4/5 (beat = 5/5) 5. "Drive" - 3/5 (beat = 4.5/5) 6. "Dear Sirs" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5) 7. "Run the Numbers" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5) 8. "Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5) 9. "The Overly Dramatic Truth" - 5/5 (beat = 5/5) 10. "Flyentology" - 4.5/5 (beat = 5/5) 11. "No Kings" - 3/5 (beat = 4.5/5) 12. "The League of Extraordinary Nobodies" - 4/5 (beat = 5/5) 13. "Poisenville Kids No Wins" - 5/5 (beat = 4/5) overall: i dont see how people aren't considering this album the best this year. This is the best production i've heard in a long time, the lyrics are amazing and the concepts blow me away. beat wise i give it a 5/5 but overall this one gets a 4.5/5. another possible classic by El Producto. here's a sample track.. "smithereens" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSweMvre30

06-29-2007, 02:10 PM	#3
A.T.I. Agitating the Ignorant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 7,467 Repped: 1,303 Repped 1,965 Times in 687 Posts Neg Reps: 140 Neg Repped at 151 Times in 124 Posts	the shit was way too left for my liking the first time around, but I'll prolly give it another listen, props for the review __________________ “At a snail's pace, I won this race that y'all trail"

06-29-2007, 02:23 PM	#4
Montana Diary Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 2,845 Repped: 173 Repped 2,242 Times in 307 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	This album put me to sleep. I might give it another listen... when I'm putridly bored. And I've said it once, I'mma say it again, the best this year is gonna be The Show by eMC. Masta Ace > your favourite emcee __________________

06-30-2007, 01:13 AM	#7
Shyne Sons Of Liberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,524 Repped: 3 Repped 2,004 Times in 839 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 143 Times in 93 Posts	Yeah I put ATI onto this album but I dont think he gave it enough time to sink it, it really takes multiple listens to get. Its one of my top 3 albums of the year though, im praying he does like he did with Fan Dam and puts out a instrumental version of it with some remixes. the production itself is worth the listen. __________________ myspace.com/vocabthemc http://coldglassofoj.blogspot.com

06-30-2007, 01:21 AM	#8
Deep South Kid UnderGround UnderPressure Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mexico City Posts: 6,176 Repped: 17 Repped 446 Times in 138 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had to admit this...The only reason I checked the album was: The Mars Volta. And they didn't do a good job, I guess they can't do much on a rap track. The album was nice though. Like Shyne said, it needs to be spinned at least 3 o 4 times to let it into your system. (no homo) __________________ guess whos back up in the building, mind on a million...

06-29-2007, 01:30 PM	#2
minip Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,407 Repped: 3 Repped 18 Times in 15 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	good review...when did this come out?

06-29-2007, 02:43 PM	#5
~Young Gunna~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gs Us Posts: 10,870 Repped: 156 Repped 574 Times in 243 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	so far its monch no doubt.... neva heard dis album yet but the production should be dope lik u say...it better be lol

06-30-2007, 01:32 AM	#10
Shyne Sons Of Liberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,524 Repped: 3 Repped 2,004 Times in 839 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 143 Times in 93 Posts	he's a hard artist to get into, he has a "run on sentence" type of style that never stops and gives you time to soak it in. it takes multiple listens to get it all. __________________ myspace.com/vocabthemc http://coldglassofoj.blogspot.com

06-30-2007, 01:36 AM	#11
Forceful Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brandywine, Maryland Posts: 1,078 Repped: 208 Repped 55 Times in 23 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^^^I Think I'll Go Give Him Another Listen Just Because You Recommended Him Shyne <3 (um.....)

06-30-2007, 02:05 AM	#12
Shyne Sons Of Liberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,524 Repped: 3 Repped 2,004 Times in 839 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 143 Times in 93 Posts	"Habeas Corpses (Draconian Love)" ft Cage = Best track. el-p's a dope story teller. dude flips a interesting story on that track. __________________ myspace.com/vocabthemc http://coldglassofoj.blogspot.com

06-30-2007, 03:27 AM	#13
Forceful Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brandywine, Maryland Posts: 1,078 Repped: 208 Repped 55 Times in 23 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Never Listened To Cage Either .. Imma Check It Out..

07-06-2007, 04:02 AM	#14
A.T.I. Agitating the Ignorant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 7,467 Repped: 1,303 Repped 1,965 Times in 687 Posts Neg Reps: 140 Neg Repped at 151 Times in 124 Posts	well, it wasn't completely horrible like I first thought, but still nothing too amazing. Like you said, production was good, and the raps, well they were pretty decent too. 3-3.5/5 imo __________________ “At a snail's pace, I won this race that y'all trail"

07-06-2007, 08:27 PM	#17
1.2.3 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: new york Posts: 1,388 Repped: 166 Repped 40 Times in 19 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^ wasnt me (no shaggy).

07-07-2007, 01:43 AM	#18
Deep South Kid UnderGround UnderPressure Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mexico City Posts: 6,176 Repped: 17 Repped 446 Times in 138 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Word....Its hard for me too, sometimes to differ between A.T.I. and 1.2.3...I guess three characters with dots separating them is enough to look like each other. __________________ guess whos back up in the building, mind on a million...

07-07-2007, 09:55 AM	#19
DJ Shinobi [RA] Slangologist nahmsayin? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,488 Repped: 82 Repped 69 Times in 52 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	El P is whack, i wish i could find the video of the ostrich synced with his voice but oh well. __________________ Minorities gotta stick together. Fight the power! - ILLogic “I respect hip-hop and i dont know one word of Midnight Marauders and truthfully dont have the interest to go and find out…” - Lupe Fiasco

07-07-2007, 12:17 PM	#20
Shyne Sons Of Liberty Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,524 Repped: 3 Repped 2,004 Times in 839 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 143 Times in 93 Posts	Dont front on El Ra, dude has dropped some classic verses, how many mc's can spit a verse this long and have damn near every ber be a standout line? [El-P] I brought that genuine shit in '96 Before you knew the underground or independent existed I watched the whole scene straight jump on the dick After stepping to KCR lit and flexing my shit No gun talk, no gimmicks, just rounds of raw-dogging Dirty dusty intelligent wit and word murdering A hardcore poetic informed without burglary Potent and shook the shit out of rappers who just learned of me Everytime I prescribe a new pill, revolution Quickly defined the standard for indie rap distribution Arrogant unafraid shit developed riding a train thinking of brain fucks "Bad Touch Example" that soon became bucks Had everybody sprung wondering where I came from Screaming out "Independent as fuck" with an insane tongue With an indelible squad of design monsters Innovating the styles that made biters look like imposters So we scripted an album and signed to Rawkus Selling a hundred thousand without a radio chart hit Imposterous son is taking the world hostage Classic hip-hop bombage dirty with style progress Now I've come from the '80s juvenile Brooklyn Where cats was like: "Gimme that subway pass, kid. Good lookin." Now someone else is taking a ride with what's mine So I had to develop styles with a death device cooked in So when I battled in basements I had eight sentences Waiting ready for the four you had laced in And I was taught to wait patient (Why?) Only faggots make shit up just to get famous So when I finally blew up I remained sick Earning respect in ghettos and 'burbs for word placement Back when the independent scene remained faceless We were the only crew who promised your ass we'd take it Mold it, shape it, living outside the matrix Hold it, make it, more than miniature major labels Hold it sacred, living it for the culture Told ya plainly, protected it from the vultures That's why I always get respect from true soldiers That laugh at the critics claiming every year: "Hip hop's over." FUCK YOU, hip hop just started It's funny how the most nostalgic cats are the ones who were never part of it But true veterans'll give dap to those who started it Then humbly move the fuck on and come with that new retarded shit New slang, new thought, new sound, new heart, you thought you hang You clown, you don't, you drown I won't dumb it down, I'm dumbing now for these rounds I'm a live mothefucker plus I'm gunning for clowns You're a mime motherfucker, don't be coming for pounds Till you can break out of that invisible box, you're not down My favorite ones are the ones who started out young rappin about Comic books, spaceships, and Omnicron 1 And even though they were soft they had fun But they couldn't break out the frame of the town they came from Some of these faggots used to send me their demos Keeping their puppy styles in the Company Flow kennels But since they had no identity from the start They started to resent the scene when they couldn't become a part They've been failing for years and call themselves Vets, that's bold Motherfucker, you're not a Vet you're just old I'll slap the shit out you to continue my nerd rap Making this money fist over fist, fuck what you heard Rookie cats talk about boom bap and golden ages Pat themselves on the back for making that new outdated shit But i've been putting out vinyl since '93 and never looked back once At ya'll trying to chase me You don't innovate because you can't innovate It's not a choice despite what you might tell your boys Keep your identity crisis under the table I always knew who I was and I'll always be more famous __________________ myspace.com/vocabthemc http://coldglassofoj.blogspot.com

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