Possible worst trade in Raiders history?

Shady23 · 09-06-2009, 03:03 PM

Seymour dealt to Raiders
ESPN.com news services

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Five-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour has been traded from the New England Patriots to the Oakland Raiders, giving the rebuilding franchise a veteran stalwart up front.

In return, the Patriots received a first-round draft choice in 2011.

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Seymour was in the final year of the four-year extension he signed in 2006. He was due to make $3.685 million.

"From nearly the day he arrived in 2001, Richard Seymour established himself as one of our premier players for nearly a decade," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Sunday. "His presence has been felt as a force on the field, a respected man off it and a multiyear champion."

The 29-year-old Seymour was drafted by the Patriots sixth overall in 2001, and started 105 of 111 games over eight seasons. He made 460 tackles and 39 sacks, and in 2002 was selected to the first of five consecutive Pro Bowls.

Seymour, who earned three Super Bowl titles with the Patriots, matched his career high with eight sacks in 2008.

The move is only the latest as the Patriots continue to get younger on defense. Linebacker Mike Vrabel was traded to Kansas City in the offseason, safety Rodney Harrison announced his retirement, and more recently Tedy Bruschi officially called it a career after 13 seasons.

"Any transaction we make is with the goal of what is best for our team and, as difficult as it is to part ways with a player of Richard's stature, many factors were taken into account when we considered this trade," Belichick said.

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Richard Seymour is off to Oakland after tying a career best with eight sacks in 2008. Here's a look at Seymour's best seasons in terms of sacks:
Sacks
2008 8*
2003 8
2002 5.5*
2004 5
*Led team

"As an organization, we feel the trade with Oakland brings sufficient value and is in the long-term interest of the club," he added. "We are extremely grateful for the huge impact Richard's elite level of performance had on our success and we wish him the very best during the rest of his career."

The Patriots, who went 3-1 in the preseason, begin the regular season Sept. 14 against the Buffalo Bills at Gillette Stadium.

The addition of rookies Myron Pryor and Ron Brace to a defensive line that also includes veterans Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren, Jarvis Green and Mike Wright made Seymour expendable.

"It's the nature of the business," said veteran running back Kevin Faulk, the longest-serving player on the team after Bruschi's departure. "They have an agenda upstairs, and the coaches decide who comes and goes. You can't do nothing about it."

Faulk said the team will miss the way Seymour carried himself as a person and a player.

"He was a quiet leader," second-year linebacker Jerod Mayo said. "He led by his actions. He'll be dearly missed as a teammate and as a player on the field. But we have players that are ready to step up."

When asked if the Pats might be better without Seymour, Mayo said: "Ask me after Game 1."

In a corresponding move, the Patriots reached agreement Sunday with free-agent guard Kendall Simmons, a source close to the player told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Simmons will fill the roster spot vacated by Seymour.

A former first-round pick of the Steelers, Simmons appeared in four games for Pittsburgh last season. He worked out for New England last week.

Kendall is expected to sign later Sunday.

AL DAVIS JUST TRADED A PROBABLE TOP 5 PICK IN 2011 TO NEW ENGLAND FOR A 30 YEAR OLD DEFENSIVE LINEMAN!!!!! LOL WHAT A RAPE JOB BY NE
Information from The Associated Press contributed to this report.

chris1883 · 09-06-2009, 03:45 PM

At first I was kinda iffy on this trade, but after thinking about it a little more, I love it. THis coming off-season we wouldve had seymour, wilfork and mankins all up for free agency, looking at that list seymour is the obvious choice not to be re-signed, and with him signing with another team, we most likely would've got a 3rd comp for him... Top 10 pick or 3rd... hmmmmm. And with the rumblings on a rookie scale trying to be implemented, would be huge for the pats... Imagine Julio JOnes in the patriots offense, jsut dreaming he will probaly come out this year

Whoo_Kid · 09-06-2009, 11:07 PM

raiders being retarded as usual

chris1883 · 09-07-2009, 12:33 AM

^^^ Whoo Kid Saturday mustve been crazy for you Navy vs OSU

Shady23 · 09-07-2009, 01:55 AM

OSU better of been simply not showing their entire offense or they are screwed on Saturday. I'm praying they were just hiding their offense for USC.

FranciscoJH#1KING · 09-07-2009, 02:13 AM

Damn, I wish that there was a rule in which allows the NFL to fire an Owner for not trying to win

. This is just sad

. I feel for the Raiders & their fans. This coming from a Cowboys fan.

Firefly5 · 09-07-2009, 02:58 AM

JaMarcus Russell better put up or shut up this season because they cut Jeff Garcia yesterday.

heat27 · 09-07-2009, 06:02 PM

fuckin dumbass raiders LMAO

BrebYayo · 09-07-2009, 08:16 PM

patriots always make out on there trades all the time..but a first round pick thats a steal for seymour...i dont even think jared allen was a first didnt he get traded for 2 picks..a second and third or sumtin

AMskEes · 09-07-2009, 10:56 PM

Pure move out of desperation from the Raiders. Good move by Bellicheat though, he rebounded himself from giving us a 5th rounder for TE Alex Smith and Smith didn't even make there roster..haha

Seymour is on the downside of his career, this trade will probably only do the Raiders good for a year yet what good is Seymour without a stand out d-tackle? He might suck balls this year.

SiLenT_KillaH · 09-09-2009, 01:40 AM

whats the point of tradin for him when your still gonna suck ?

Shady23 · 09-09-2009, 11:32 AM

last year Shaun Rogers and Kris Jenkins were traded for much less than a potential top 6 pick. Seymour isn't the player he used to be

Red Bandana · 09-09-2009, 02:33 PM

Jim Rome said yesterday Godell needs to put Al Davis in a home lol

YoUnG CaLi · 09-09-2009, 03:14 PM

What's the difference??? the way they draft sucks anyways so its like they did nothing....

yayo_gunit · 09-10-2009, 12:25 AM

m suprised pats traded him..they dont have a great defense imo this year...raiders well i dont know what they doin...btw heat im not a yankee fan but ur sig is SICK

AMskEes · 09-10-2009, 12:30 AM

The dude hasn't showed his face in Oakland yet,

lmfao...

Coach Cable says this issue has not been revolved yet.

Shady23 · 09-10-2009, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yayo_gunit

m suprised pats traded him..they dont have a great defense imo this year...raiders well i dont know what they doin...btw heat im not a yankee fan but ur sig is SICK

typical joke from New York. A Jets avy yet a Giants sig. lmao

yayo_gunit · 09-10-2009, 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=Shady23;4072434]typical joke from New York. A Jets avy yet a Giants sig. lmao[/QUOTE

how many times do i have to say this...i love both teams...my family has had giants season tickets since forever so i go to all the home games....i also like jets...there any thing wrong with that???

chris1883 · 09-10-2009, 01:42 PM

^^^^ they traded him because this coming off-season seymour,wilfork and mankis are all free agents, and not to mention we need to extend Brady... With seymour being the oldest and most injury prone, we traded him for a potential Top 10 pick, were as if he left as a free agent at best we would of got a 3rd pick.....

heat27 · 09-10-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady23

typical joke from New York. A Jets avy yet a Giants sig. lmao

so he a joke for likin two teams LMAO
u actin like it the same as likin mets and yankees
giants and jets fans dont hate each other in ny
u wouldnt know that cause ur ass dont live in ny
so i cant blame u for not knowin :(

*looks at my sig remembers urs shit talkin

hey by the way how r the indians doin ;)

heat27 · 09-10-2009, 03:56 PM

[quote=yayo_gunit;4072750]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady23

typical joke from New York. A Jets avy yet a Giants sig. lmao[/QUOTE

how many times do i have to say this...i love both teams...my family has had giants season tickets since forever so i go to all the home games....i also like jets...there any thing wrong with that???

he just mad cause he hasnt seen any of his pro cleveland teams win shit
so he take in out on NY

Shady23 · 09-10-2009, 04:49 PM

yes thats it. because other than the giants what NY team has done anything recently? If i wanted to hate on a winning city wouldn't i pick Boston and not the huge chokes in NY?

What happened when Cleveland and NY met in the playoffs? Oops

HipHop KnowLedge · 09-10-2009, 05:30 PM

i was back and fourth on this trade but i guess its good seymour would have helped more this year to win the superbowl but the pick helps us more in the future

Kidss · 09-10-2009, 05:59 PM

dude i can't believe Seymour got Traded again what the fuck where the we thinking. This is a surprise to me because We were awesome when Seymour was with the patriots.
And this From a New England fan. so i say good Luck to Seymour In Oakland because they were just terrible last season.

heat27 · 09-10-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady23

yes thats it. because other than the giants what NY team has done anything recently? If i wanted to hate on a winning city wouldn't i pick Boston and not the huge chokes in NY?

but yet i seen 5 titles in ny
4 yankee titles
one giants

how many have u seen in ur city ;)

Quote:

What happened when Cleveland and NY met in the playoffs? Oops

New York 91-50

Cleveland 60-79

Oops!!!

09-07-2009, 01:55 AM	#5
Shady23 That's what she said Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bundy House Posts: 5,661 Repped: 128 Repped 152 Times in 85 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	OSU better of been simply not showing their entire offense or they are screwed on Saturday. I'm praying they were just hiding their offense for USC. __________________

09-07-2009, 02:13 AM	#6
FranciscoJH#1KING Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,832 Repped: 2,423 Repped 39 Times in 20 Posts Neg Reps: 81 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 4 Posts	Damn, I wish that there was a rule in which allows the NFL to fire an Owner for not trying to win . This is just sad . I feel for the Raiders & their fans. This coming from a Cowboys fan. __________________

09-07-2009, 02:58 AM	#7
Firefly5 Droppin' Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sacramento Posts: 4,103 Repped: 1,100 Repped 680 Times in 242 Posts Neg Reps: 57 Neg Repped at 22 Times in 20 Posts	JaMarcus Russell better put up or shut up this season because they cut Jeff Garcia yesterday. __________________ San Francisco 49ERS 2009 NFC West Champs

09-07-2009, 06:02 PM	#8
heat27 EHNY for life Join Date: May 2006 Location: BRONX,NY Posts: 7,719 Repped: 925 Repped 1,508 Times in 741 Posts Neg Reps: 152 Neg Repped at 154 Times in 120 Posts	fuckin dumbass raiders LMAO __________________

09-07-2009, 08:16 PM	#9
BrebYayo NEW B Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NEW B Posts: 1,961 Repped: 600 Repped 184 Times in 79 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	patriots always make out on there trades all the time..but a first round pick thats a steal for seymour...i dont even think jared allen was a first didnt he get traded for 2 picks..a second and third or sumtin __________________

09-06-2009, 03:03 PM	#1
Shady23 That's what she said Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bundy House Posts: 5,661 Repped: 128 Repped 152 Times in 85 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	Possible worst trade in Raiders history? Possible worst trade in Raiders history? Seymour dealt to Raiders ESPN.com news services FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Five-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour has been traded from the New England Patriots to the Oakland Raiders, giving the rebuilding franchise a veteran stalwart up front. In return, the Patriots received a first-round draft choice in 2011. AFC East blog Graham ESPN.com's Tim Graham writes about all things AFC East in his division blog. • Blog network: NFL Nation Seymour was in the final year of the four-year extension he signed in 2006. He was due to make $3.685 million. "From nearly the day he arrived in 2001, Richard Seymour established himself as one of our premier players for nearly a decade," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Sunday. "His presence has been felt as a force on the field, a respected man off it and a multiyear champion." The 29-year-old Seymour was drafted by the Patriots sixth overall in 2001, and started 105 of 111 games over eight seasons. He made 460 tackles and 39 sacks, and in 2002 was selected to the first of five consecutive Pro Bowls. Seymour, who earned three Super Bowl titles with the Patriots, matched his career high with eight sacks in 2008. The move is only the latest as the Patriots continue to get younger on defense. Linebacker Mike Vrabel was traded to Kansas City in the offseason, safety Rodney Harrison announced his retirement, and more recently Tedy Bruschi officially called it a career after 13 seasons. "Any transaction we make is with the goal of what is best for our team and, as difficult as it is to part ways with a player of Richard's stature, many factors were taken into account when we considered this trade," Belichick said. Sack Machine Richard Seymour is off to Oakland after tying a career best with eight sacks in 2008. Here's a look at Seymour's best seasons in terms of sacks: Sacks 2008 8* 2003 8 2002 5.5* 2004 5 *Led team "As an organization, we feel the trade with Oakland brings sufficient value and is in the long-term interest of the club," he added. "We are extremely grateful for the huge impact Richard's elite level of performance had on our success and we wish him the very best during the rest of his career." The Patriots, who went 3-1 in the preseason, begin the regular season Sept. 14 against the Buffalo Bills at Gillette Stadium. The addition of rookies Myron Pryor and Ron Brace to a defensive line that also includes veterans Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren, Jarvis Green and Mike Wright made Seymour expendable. "It's the nature of the business," said veteran running back Kevin Faulk, the longest-serving player on the team after Bruschi's departure. "They have an agenda upstairs, and the coaches decide who comes and goes. You can't do nothing about it." Faulk said the team will miss the way Seymour carried himself as a person and a player. "He was a quiet leader," second-year linebacker Jerod Mayo said. "He led by his actions. He'll be dearly missed as a teammate and as a player on the field. But we have players that are ready to step up." When asked if the Pats might be better without Seymour, Mayo said: "Ask me after Game 1." In a corresponding move, the Patriots reached agreement Sunday with free-agent guard Kendall Simmons, a source close to the player told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Simmons will fill the roster spot vacated by Seymour. A former first-round pick of the Steelers, Simmons appeared in four games for Pittsburgh last season. He worked out for New England last week. Kendall is expected to sign later Sunday. AL DAVIS JUST TRADED A PROBABLE TOP 5 PICK IN 2011 TO NEW ENGLAND FOR A 30 YEAR OLD DEFENSIVE LINEMAN!!!!! LOL WHAT A RAPE JOB BY NE Information from The Associated Press contributed to this report. __________________

09-06-2009, 03:45 PM	#2
chris1883 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 3,101 Repped: 503 Repped 1,842 Times in 280 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	At first I was kinda iffy on this trade, but after thinking about it a little more, I love it. THis coming off-season we wouldve had seymour, wilfork and mankins all up for free agency, looking at that list seymour is the obvious choice not to be re-signed, and with him signing with another team, we most likely would've got a 3rd comp for him... Top 10 pick or 3rd... hmmmmm. And with the rumblings on a rookie scale trying to be implemented, would be huge for the pats... Imagine Julio JOnes in the patriots offense, jsut dreaming he will probaly come out this year

09-06-2009, 11:07 PM	#3
Whoo_Kid Cleveland Faithful Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,230 Repped: 1,081 Repped 1,004 Times in 428 Posts Neg Reps: 36 Neg Repped at 54 Times in 43 Posts	raiders being retarded as usual

09-07-2009, 12:33 AM	#4
chris1883 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 3,101 Repped: 503 Repped 1,842 Times in 280 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	^^^ Whoo Kid Saturday mustve been crazy for you Navy vs OSU

09-07-2009, 10:56 PM	#10
AMskEes The Difference Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: $acramento/Chico, CA (530) Posts: 1,685 Repped: 383 Repped 30 Times in 21 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pure move out of desperation from the Raiders. Good move by Bellicheat though, he rebounded himself from giving us a 5th rounder for TE Alex Smith and Smith didn't even make there roster..haha Seymour is on the downside of his career, this trade will probably only do the Raiders good for a year yet what good is Seymour without a stand out d-tackle? He might suck balls this year. __________________

09-09-2009, 01:40 AM	#11
SiLenT_KillaH -_- Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,023 Repped: 2,119 Repped 595 Times in 281 Posts Neg Reps: 463 Neg Repped at 123 Times in 89 Posts	whats the point of tradin for him when your still gonna suck ? __________________ "1+1+0=11"-Buck Marley 07

09-09-2009, 11:32 AM	#12
Shady23 That's what she said Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bundy House Posts: 5,661 Repped: 128 Repped 152 Times in 85 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	last year Shaun Rogers and Kris Jenkins were traded for much less than a potential top 6 pick. Seymour isn't the player he used to be __________________

09-09-2009, 02:33 PM	#13
Red Bandana R.I.P. UGA VII Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,834 Repped: 904 Repped 794 Times in 308 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 52 Times in 43 Posts	Jim Rome said yesterday Godell needs to put Al Davis in a home lol __________________ Shit I've been hated since the 5th grade. That's why my best friends the tre pound, the ice pick and the switchblade.

09-09-2009, 03:14 PM	#14
YoUnG CaLi datalkofcali Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoUtH CaLi Posts: 3,935 Repped: 165 Repped 560 Times in 319 Posts Neg Reps: 24 Neg Repped at 97 Times in 75 Posts	What's the difference??? the way they draft sucks anyways so its like they did nothing....

09-10-2009, 12:25 AM	#15
yayo_gunit VVVV Mark Sanchez VVVVV Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Strong Island Posts: 817 Repped: 10 Repped 99 Times in 48 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	m suprised pats traded him..they dont have a great defense imo this year...raiders well i dont know what they doin...btw heat im not a yankee fan but ur sig is SICK __________________

09-10-2009, 12:30 AM	#16
AMskEes The Difference Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: $acramento/Chico, CA (530) Posts: 1,685 Repped: 383 Repped 30 Times in 21 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The dude hasn't showed his face in Oakland yet, lmfao... Coach Cable says this issue has not been revolved yet. __________________

09-10-2009, 01:17 PM	#18
yayo_gunit VVVV Mark Sanchez VVVVV Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Strong Island Posts: 817 Repped: 10 Repped 99 Times in 48 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	[QUOTE=Shady23;4072434]typical joke from New York. A Jets avy yet a Giants sig. lmao[/QUOTE how many times do i have to say this...i love both teams...my family has had giants season tickets since forever so i go to all the home games....i also like jets...there any thing wrong with that??? __________________

09-10-2009, 01:42 PM	#19
chris1883 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 3,101 Repped: 503 Repped 1,842 Times in 280 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	^^^^ they traded him because this coming off-season seymour,wilfork and mankis are all free agents, and not to mention we need to extend Brady... With seymour being the oldest and most injury prone, we traded him for a potential Top 10 pick, were as if he left as a free agent at best we would of got a 3rd pick.....

09-10-2009, 04:49 PM	#22
Shady23 That's what she said Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bundy House Posts: 5,661 Repped: 128 Repped 152 Times in 85 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	yes thats it. because other than the giants what NY team has done anything recently? If i wanted to hate on a winning city wouldn't i pick Boston and not the huge chokes in NY? What happened when Cleveland and NY met in the playoffs? Oops __________________

09-10-2009, 05:30 PM	#23
HipHop KnowLedge Knowledge is power Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: LA (LBC LONG BEaCH) Posts: 7,135 Repped: 10 Repped 339 Times in 167 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 80 Times in 58 Posts	i was back and fourth on this trade but i guess its good seymour would have helped more this year to win the superbowl but the pick helps us more in the future __________________

09-10-2009, 05:59 PM	#24
Kidss Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bloomington Posts: 380 Repped: 0 Repped 34 Times in 26 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 21 Times in 16 Posts	dude i can't believe Seymour got Traded again what the fuck where the we thinking. This is a surprise to me because We were awesome when Seymour was with the patriots. And this From a New England fan. so i say good Luck to Seymour In Oakland because they were just terrible last season.

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