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Maybe it was because, at 6-foot-3, 263 pounds, Shane Carwin is nearly the same size as, and actually has bigger meat hooks than, Brock Lesnar.
Maybe it was just a savvy promotional move for Carwin, an unbeaten, top contender for Lesnar’s Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight belt. Or maybe the “Colossus from Colorado” really was so outraged at Lesnar’s antics at UFC 100 he couldn’t contain himself. Whatever it was, Carwin pulled no punches on his personal blog, hammering Lesnar for taunting a fallen opponent, tossing middle fingers at the Mandalay Bay Events Center crowd in Las Vegas and acting like anything but a respectful champion Saturday. After a stern talking to by UFC president Dana White, Lesnar apologized for his actions. Carwin was apparently unmoved (he didn’t return a message seeking comment). “The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME,” Carwin wrote. “He may be a champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a champion.” It got better, with the old school Carwin, who sports an 11-0 record, lecturing Lesnar like he was a little boy. “The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama. It is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did [Saturday] night. It doesn’t matter how much money you make if you can’t earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. “Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport in the world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just don’t get it.” The mechanical engineer wasn’t done yet. Next up, a shot at Lesnar’s pro wrestling background. “We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose; it matters how you win or lose.” And to think Lesnar couldn’t deal with Frank Mir making fun of his jiu-jitsu defense (which was once, admittedly, weak). This alone will fuel him through a long Minnesota winter of training. And who knows what else Carwin has in him? Carwin takes on Cain Velasquez (6-0) in October at UFC 104 in Los Angeles. The winner gets a shot at Lesnar for the title, White has announced. If it’s Carwin (no small feat against the excellent Velasquez) then this wouldn’t just be an intriguing fight, but suddenly a personal one. Carwin, like Lesnar, is a former collegiate wrestling champion. They’re about the same size; although Carwin’s massive 5-XL gloves are actually two sizes larger than Lesnar’s. It’s one reason none of Carwin’s opponents have lasted past the middle of the first round. Which is good because the indomitable way Lesnar has looked of late, it’s going to take a special mix of size, speed and skill to challenge him. And he’s only getting better. Carwin doesn’t sound concerned. Not about Lesnar and not about rattling his cage. His rip job will be appreciated in traditional mixed martial arts, where discipline and respect for an opponent is still paramount. Since arriving from pro wrestling, Lesnar has expressed little concern for such things. That’s his right and it’ll earn him plenty of supporters who love every second of it. If he wants to sneer and snarl, if he wants postfight interviews complete with sponsor bashing, cheesy histrionics and juvenile statements, there’s only one way to stop him. “From leaving the venue all the way to the airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them,” Carwin wrote. The UFC will focus on pursuing the world’s No. 1 heavyweight, Fedor Emelianenko (30-1), who is approaching his final contracted fight with the UFC’s rival promotion, Affliction. That takes place Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif. “We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight,” White said. Time will tell on that. In the interim, a contender is waiting to earn his shot and then possibly take the trash talk to a whole new level. That’s what Brock Lesnar has brought to the UFC, visceral reactions all around. Some loathe him. Some love him. Everyone wants to see what happens next, a string of big pay-per-view cards almost all but assured. Now here comes a sizeable challenger, issuing preemptive blog posts and lectures to the champion on sportsmanship, humility and class. Shane Carwin is itching for a fight. You can rest assured, after this, Big Brock will be too.
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Brock needs to chill himself out. I think he still has that WWE mentality, that makes him think he has to be the bad guy that causes all the drama. He needs somebody to humble him, clear him of that WWE thought process, and maybe even guide him.
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^^^^because he acted like that 1 time??? Dana white said brock is usually not like that......I hate how people want to talk all this shit because he went off on the crowd and talked shit....so fukn what he a good fighter get over it....
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what he dd was wrong and he showed no class
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didn't really bother me, made me intrigued to see him fight again actually
fighting itself is classless if I wanna go watch Mr. Nice Guy competittion, i'll watch a baseball game.. If I see a fight I wanna see some grudge and anger, not hugs and handshakes |
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u show that anger in the ring but once the fight is over u show respect and not act like a compete asshole just think how bad it look for brock if some1 gets really hurt after brock beats them and he acts like that do u really what to see some1 get hurt and brock act like that cause its fightin??? shit just wrong brock needs to show some respect and class
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plus it makes ufc look bad
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the only thing he did wrong was diss the sponsor. The other shit, lets not act like he beat up fans, NBA, Artest, having loaded bats or something like in baseball, loaded gloves like in boxing, bite someones ear off, getting arrested, killing someone and still playing in the NFL, Pac Man Jones shit, I mean dude flips off fans and tells Mir to talk shit now, then says he is gonna fuck his wife, and people are just blasting him and the sport, but Tyson bites an ear off, Margo loads his gloves, which could kill someone, Pac Man Jones in the NFL etc, nobody says shit about those sports, but Brock, a former WWE star, who in the heat of the moment did some things that others dont do, but was it that wrong? When BJ Penn takes blood off a beaten man and licks it, when fighters after they win do the throat slash, when Tito Ortiz digs a grave, when BJ Penn holds choke on Pulver after he is tapping, thats fine, but Brock is now awful for the sport? Maybe he aint a class act like GSP, but maybe it also has something to do with Mir talking shit, Herring talked shit, Randy didnt, and nothing happened. So while some new to the sport may not like it, he is the bad guy, he is the HW champ, second best only to Fedor, and he is the biggest PPV draw in the sport, this just makes fans more eager to see his next fight. |
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Carwin might be the only guy who can match size and strength with Brock. BUt he needs to beat Cain first. But is this good for him? Mir talked shit and pissed Brock off, Carwin should shut his mouth. yes he is big, yes he is a good wrestler, and def has power in his hands, but pissing Brock off might not be the best thing to do. If he beats Cain, then a fight with Brock next year is gonna be a hell of a fight, battle of the giants.
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"what iif he hurts someone" MIr popped right back up and ran his mouth with his face all drippin with blood, that's what initiated it... Maybe if he was on the ground unconcious sure, but no not in this case
"after the fight you must show respect" who sets these guidlines Heat, you? I watch a fight to watch a fight, certainly am not losing any sleep on a fighter over reacted afterwards. boo fucking hoo he's a big bad bully now. People now all anxious to see him get his ass beat now, increasing ratings, making UFC "look bad" lol please. I've been watching athletes act like lunatics for years, they're always the ones in the headlines, always on national TV.. TO, Bonds, no need to make a list. Sports and UFC will be doing just fine regardless what some emo fans feel is or isn't "good sportsmanship". Highly doubt NBA will be shut down due to lebron not shaking hands afterwards . Last edited by WIG E; 07-16-2009 at 12:57 AM. |
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waits for wig-e to bring up odom,bandwagon,lakers,me being from az or frontrunners stuff he wont bring up no parade, cavs getting shaq but still falling short from everyone else,paying 60 mill for varajeo,ariza is a bust when he's with the lakers but a good fit with the cavs, we dont want artest but he can make kobe mad and the #1 thing never ever never bring up what aint recorded on cam by NIKE
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Floyd mayweather flipped off the UK crowd when he fought ricky hatton, bernard hopkins threw a puerto rican flag in PR....what boxer that fought DLH didn't call him a fag??? Come on heat, me and you as hardcore b oxing fans can not talk about class...lol
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no he show respect so did hopkins with tito all that bullshit they do outside of the ring is promotion show respect to the fighter after brock didnt do that
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and YoUnG CaLi y u bring up hopkins and mayweather like if i approved of the bullshit they do???
u the mayweather fan here not me so i can see y u wouldnt have a problem with brock actin like that cause u like fighters who act like ghetto trash then the onces who have respect and class and the funny thing is how wig approves of brock anger but yet gets on artest for his anger LMAO y that ??? cause one is the NBA and the other is fightin ?? both r sports right?? or maybe MMA isnt a sport :(
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desperate for attention much? Must not be anyone to talk to in the chatbox huh... =/ and fyi Varajao is at 42.5 over 6 yrs, 34 @ 5yrs... u stay lookin mad haha Last edited by WIG E; 07-16-2009 at 06:26 PM. |
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"I know you are but what am I"
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people hype up Carwin but I don't see it, I think Cain will beat him but we shall see
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NO he showed class but the fans did not from the start . so he gave it back to those ignorant closeminded mma fans . they hate on for being in pro-wrestling . screw those fans . they got what they deserved
. everybody in pro-wrestling was happy what he did because he just stood up for pro-wrestling by doing that. mma fans don't deserve no respect from lesnar when they show no respect at all. the mma fans started it not lesnar . also carwin is fake as fuck who is saying nothing but bulolshit . the fans don't matter in fighting & never will. fighting is always been about money first not fans. if you want it about the fans then go to pro-wrestling because that is only place that fans matter . mma is about fighting & money & not the fans , while pro-wrestling is all about the fans. |
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