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Old 07-11-2009, 02:40 AM   #51
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I'm gonna go ahead and end this debate by killing this evidence once and for all--

Obviously the mountain isn't big enough if it's still illegalized. Obviously all of the calculating and estimations aren't enough to support an appealing case. In short, you're relying heavily off things that have failed for years. So when you question my mentality on drugs and my perspective, look at what YOURS has gotten YOU. Then i'll be there the point and laugh at you.
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1. The studies aren't calculations and estimations, they are based on facts and evidence.. something you can't comprehend

2. It doesn't matter if we state an appealing case because closed-minded people such as you will never look at the facts, they will just talk in circles until the debate is over then claim they have won which is exactly what you have done.

3. Your whole argument supports a failed method.
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Reasons you're wrong:

1 Psychological Dependance - Marijuana has EXTREME psychological dependance. In otherwise, you get hooked on it. It's just like cigerettes and drinking, except that a lot of people who sit around smoking weed end up being failures and bums who don't have jobs.
1. Uhh...yah you did...

2. Ehh...if you can't teach your kid to think for himself then your a shit parent anyways...

3. I know for a fact that thats bullshit cuz I know tons of people that smoked weed and haven't tried any other drug...stop acting like you know how everyone acts...

4. That still doesn't give them the right to tell me that I can't smoke something...

5. They aren't important to you...they are to other people...
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Another point I forgot to make:

As I mentioned before, several states ARE already moving toward decriminalization.. so your assertion that decriminalization activists have not stated an appealing case is just plain wrong. They have a mountain of ignorance and misinformation to overcome, yet they are still already making huge strides way beyond what most people thought would have been accomplished by now. Even states like Iowa, which are seen as more traditionalist, have made moves towards decriminalization. If more people knew that all the scholarly evidence was on the side of decriminalization, we would be even further along.. but they don't exactly teach that in school.
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cryiiiiiiiiiin @ Ganga

argument fail.

swear McDuffee one of the stupidest motherfuckers on this site,and im not basing that off of Ganga....

but either way.....ima smoke
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IDK if any touched on this but "ganga" means "sale" or "cheap" in spanish...it was cute though
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I recently had to stop smokin because i got locked up over failin drug tests and now i have to choose

and to be completely honest nothin really has changed for the better for me

I still do all the same shit the same way.

I don't see anything more clearly or get shit done at a faster pace or with better quality.

I'm not sittin around everyday like feining and thinkin about smokin.

The only thing that has changed is that i get agitated much more easily.

The little annoying shit that happens just really gets to me now.

When i was smokin and somethin happened i'd be like, huh that sucks and just do somethin to fix it and honestly i'd get it done easily and with minimal frustration.

Now when similar shit happens i get pissed and end up trying to fix it but cuz i'm pissed off i either fuck up or i end up gettin annoyed by somethin else and then i just get really pissed.

Ya sure people can try to generalize the effects of marijuana but a generalization is not factual information because those studies are done with controlling factors. There are no x factors to offset things

There is no realistic way to generalize anything about marijuana and it's effect on people because everybody is affected by weed differently.

Some people function excellently stoned. Others act like they should never ever smoke. Some people freak out and others just laugh a lot and eat a ton of food.
As far as a health aspect of things i know a lady who has lung cancer and goes thru kemo and her doctors tell her to smoke weed
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IDK if any touched on this but "ganga" means "sale" or "cheap" in spanish...it was cute though
Actually "Ganjah" Means Weed... Sale Means "Venta" And Cheap Is "Barato....

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Actually "Ganjah" Means Weed... Sale Means "Venta" And Cheap Is "Barato....

He didn't say "ganja", he said "ganga".
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He didn't say "ganja", he said "ganga".
Either Way Ganga Still Doesn't Mean Any Of The Words He Said ....
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who gives a fuck how u say, spell or interpret the word ganga?

It's weed. No matter what you call it

If you're gonna try to get specific there' purp, piff, mids, greens, mursh, kindbud, blue, dro, headies, etc...

no matter what ya call it it needs to be legal
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^^^^Nigga................ Me And You............ Need To................ Smoke That Shit Right Know......... You Are Right............... Lets Legalize It Right Now................... Oh Wait............. It's Legal In My City

Also

I Was Watching A Ton Of Hummers Go By Today * Most Of Them Drug Dealers *

Since Cops Are Scared Of Them..... They Can't Do Shit..........

So I Saw The Trailers Full Of Drugs......... And On The Banner It Said......... "Officers There Are No Drugs On This Trailer" LMAOOOO!
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hmmm...interesting method...reverse psychology...
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Actually "Ganjah" Means Weed... Sale Means "Venta" And Cheap Is "Barato....

Sure, "Ganjah" means weed...but ganga doesn't, it's a spanish word
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whoever said people who smoke weed become nothin but bums i ask you to look at 90 percent of musicians not just rappers cuz potheads span from 50 cent to willie nelson, ralph nader smokes weed, several actors includin seth rogen, dane cook blazes as well as most comedians, hell my homeboy's mom work as a bigwig at the reebok headquarters in canton, mass and she be goin hit for hit wit me on the three footer every weekend.

weed doesn't make people lazy ass bums, it's douchebags who can't get off their asses cuz they're not motivated or accept inadequicy and mediocritry, and if ya don't know what that means it that they accept that they suck and always will suck at life instead of doin somethin about it

LEGALIZE IT
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lol @ the ppl tryin to justify drug abuse.

look the shit aint rocket science. is weed good for you? in some cases yes (like slowing cancer growth). is weed bad for you? yes, always. its obvious some of yall doin the most yappin aint actually done any real study on the subject. science has already proven the shit is not good for you so anyone tryin to say theres nuthin wrong is ignorant on the subject str8 up. heres another laughable excuse "its natural so how can it be bad?". plants 'that grow in nature' make up some of the most poisonous & toxic things on earth.

i like the way holland deals with weed use. its legal to purchase & smoke is license shops. illegal to grow and smoke in public. they dont have a 'drug dealer' problem, they get tax income from it, and both the cops and weed smokers are happy with the compromise.

i dont care if they legalize smoking weed here. but there should be stiff penalties for anyone selling it illegally or driving while intoxicated. thats far more then reasonable imo. unfortunately theres a lot of stupid ass motherfuckers that dont think there should be any limits. thats nuthin more then ignorance. ppl need limits & consequences or shit gets outta hand real quick. history doesnt lie.

so..legalize it with strict rules and tax it. everybody wins
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i agree with legalization and taxation but as a hustla myself i also wish that it sorta wouldn't be legalized cuz it'd fuck up my money

i got a job and shit but i hustle to smoke for free and in fact i sell shit so cheap just to get free bud that now i get half pounds and pounds cuz i move it too fast. like i could tell niggaz nah i gotta smoke but i'm not turnin down money in this economy especially when my nigga grabbin 50 60 pillows at a time.

i can go get that shit whenever i want especially now cuz i can't smoke while i'm on probation i'm just stackin dough.

I've done plenty research and a lot of the "facts" about weed bein bad for you aren't bullshit but they're too generalized cuz it doesn't have the same effect on everyone
for every person who can have lung problems from weed there's people who don't. there's people who are in the top percentage of intelligence in this country who are potheads and some are burnout retards.
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^^thats true but you can go on how it affects the random person here & there. you gotta go with how it affects the majority. like alcohol. some ppl can drink their whole life and still have a healthy liver when they get old but most ppl's bodies get fucked up.

anywayz i think theres a compromise for weed somewhere in there but it definitely gotta be moderated and not abused
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ya i do agree with you on some level but i believe and i don't have any facts to base this on other than the people i've been around which is in the thousands. Including people on the High times potcast from 2008's Boston Hempfest. Watch the video i'm the lightskinned guy wit the skeleton shirt with a weed leaf for a heart smoking with Graveyard BBQ, the headlining band or go to Graveyard BBQ's myspace page and check out the pics i'm the lightskinned guy in the crowd with the hat with a potleaf on it.

Just as an example of the amount of people i smoke with.

But more than 3/4 of those people drove out of there and conducted themselves while there and i assume upon leavin in a completely functional manner and weren't the sterotypical stoned people that are portrayed by the media.

It's as easy to say that the majority of marijuana smokers cannot properly function as it is to say that they can.

There's still never been a study wide enough to create anything close to a valid percentage of people vs. the effects that they display.

I took the MCAS in Massachusetts, FCAT in florida and the PSAT and SATs all after 2gram faceblunts and i scored in the ninetieth percentile.

But that's just me
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i know peeps on both ends of the spectrum. one of the homeys you cant even tell when hes loaded but the other one acts like a dumb fuck. not even like hes high but like hes sloppy drunk. its ridiculous. everybody has a different body chemistry tho
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ya dat's what i said a minute ago but i'm just tryin to say that the general concensus is that the majority of marijuana smokers can't function when they're high sorta like the effects of alcohol. but the mahority of alcoholics do get too fucked up. the majority of pot smokers could go either way and until a study is done to prove which side of the spectrum the majority lies on there's no way for people to say anything about it and say it's a fact
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lol @ the ppl tryin to justify drug abuse.

look the shit aint rocket science. is weed good for you? in some cases yes (like slowing cancer growth). is weed bad for you? yes, always. its obvious some of yall doin the most yappin aint actually done any real study on the subject. science has already proven the shit is not good for you so anyone tryin to say theres nuthin wrong is ignorant on the subject str8 up. heres another laughable excuse "its natural so how can it be bad?". plants 'that grow in nature' make up some of the most poisonous & toxic things on earth.

i like the way holland deals with weed use. its legal to purchase & smoke is license shops. illegal to grow and smoke in public. they dont have a 'drug dealer' problem, they get tax income from it, and both the cops and weed smokers are happy with the compromise.

i dont care if they legalize smoking weed here. but there should be stiff penalties for anyone selling it illegally or driving while intoxicated. thats far more then reasonable imo. unfortunately theres a lot of stupid ass motherfuckers that dont think there should be any limits. thats nuthin more then ignorance. ppl need limits & consequences or shit gets outta hand real quick. history doesnt lie.

so..legalize it with strict rules and tax it. everybody wins
science has never proven cannabis to be dangerous, i don't know where you got that information. THC is one of the least toxic chemicals known to man, the only harm that comes from smoking cannabis is the actual smoke itself (although there's never been a proven case of anyone getting lung cancer from smoking strictly cannabis and THC has been shown by a Harvard study to actually reduce the size of lung tumors).. and you can avoid that harm by ingesting it or using a vaporizer. science has repeatedly shown that cannabis has ENORMOUS medical value not just for cancer and AIDS patients but also for treating asthma, chronic pain, preventing Alzheimer's, and helping with opiate addiction. Yet the official policy of the federal government is STILL that cannabis has ZERO medical value. Why are we letting politics get in the way of what some doctors call a "wonder drug?"

And that doesn't even scratch the surface of the industrial uses of hemp. (fuel, clothing, food).. this is one of the most useful plants on earth that we are preventing from being used. It's not common sense, it's madness.
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^^honestly i didnt even read your whole post cuz after the first couple sentences i know 100% you aint researched this subject. i had to. unless you really want to hit the books and educated yourself, just keep believin that nonsense
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ain't researched? you really shouldn't tell people to hit the books when you're saying things like "you ain't researched."

In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."
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