STUBWFC

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TOPIC ABOUT!

Why the fuck we gotta have this black/white divide. We all human at the end of the day.

Just because there's a knobhead in the WhiteHouse now who happens to be white don't mean all white people are therefore unsuitable candidates. It doesn't really matter if you are black or white, just get the country back to what it used to stand for..freedom, liberty, justice.

Gone are the days of Washington an Lincoln.

Saying this though, I do believe America needs to have a black President soon to symbolise a milestone in the countries progress. A black president will symbolise true equality, and will go someway to ensuring the "white" man is no longer dominant.


Would be good to have a Reverend in charge though, as long as he ain't as cuckoo as Bush (I don't know if he is, never seen the guy)

STUBWFC

That's exactly what these people will tell you





Funny, these people want to kill, behead, inihialate, torture and massacre anyone who dares to call Islam a hate filled religion.

I'm particularly intrigued by those at the front, who although are qucik to stand up "rightly" for their faith because they are doing the right thing, still cover their faces.


But I'm only having a bit of a laugh, I know most Muslims are tolerant..it's just the extremists who I don't like..and I have a few on my street..trying to dictate what my sister can and can't do because she's a woman.

Fase [Hi-TEK]

good post........

Young H.O.V

those people are a bunch of dickheads...u might as well put up a picture of the kkk burning cross and lynching black people.



why are other people telling ur sister what to do? is she muslim?

STUBWFC

No, she ain't Mulim. But the Muslim family on my street tells her what she can and can't wear. But that's just one family. All the other Muslim families on our street are friendly and peaceful.

I guess it's more an issue of personality than race or colour.

Every race and religion has got it's bad people and good people.

Which is my point in this thread, Al Sharpton is a good person (which is the impression I get) which is the main reason he should be President if he runs. Not like the corrupt Bush (bad Christian)

JUSTBLAZE

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unitymama

At least he'll get shit done the right way unlike now!!!...

Young H.O.V

tell them to fuck off, why are these people tellin what your sister can and cant wear..fucking outrageous...im not suprised why you hate muslims...dont worry they are not all like that.. Like u said it is probably an issue of race, and culture.

STUBWFC

I don't hate Muslims lol..just these ones. Like I said, my best mate is a Muslim, he ain't any different than me except a different colour skin. And that ain't a problem for me.

I think me and you got a bit tied up in our own feelings before. It's just I come from a heavily populated ethnic area, and see some of the things they get away with. For example, there is an exclusive Indian only leisure centre in my town, if the Christian community did that we would get ragged by the Council for being racist. But it is different rules, superior ones IMO for those who have recently immgrated to Britain, and the British people who have heritage gere always seem to get a bad deal. There should just be the same rules for everyone.

I think my beef lies more with the government and the way they deal with the minority of Muslims who give the rest a bad name. For example the government is considering having an exclusive NHS service for Muslims. Why? Like I said, no-one is better than anyone else, so why should people get better treatment than others? Everyone should be treated equally in nationalised organisations.

Obviously some of my annoyance is generated by the media too, who massively over emphasise the bad points in Islam. Media focuses too much on negative energy rather than positive, and that's probably a main reason for the disruption of community. For example, Re:The Veil thread, on the news, they asked extreme Muslims what their opinion is on Jack Straws passing statement. Then it's broadcasted over national television and everyone thinks all Muslims are like that.

We were both just defendin our backgrounds. And that is sumthin' to be proud of. Peace Young H.O.V.

Young H.O.V

no disrespect but its not the muslims that ask for nhs services its your own government. and you shouldnt define your neighbours just as muslims. The fact is ethnic people have social clubs for themselves because they want to mix in and feel secure at with their own people. If you complain, you should go to the indian centre see how they welcome you i think it was you who quoted nas saying people fear what they dont understand, try understanding the people around you. They have come as guests and treat them as guests. Yuo have to remember you the english, invaded india, most of the middle east. Stole, raped and pillaged the natural resources of these people, now they have come to your country, trat them with a bit of respect.

The way you keep mentioning muslims and own identity, you sound like a prime target for the BNP if you already are not but i think if it wasnt for hip hop you probably woul be. Sorry but thats how it looks from here, i am sorry if i am wrong! You talk about defending backgrounds, i dont think so, i have defended the name and respect of Islam throughout the threads, you were unhappy with muslims. you werent defending anything? What were you defending? You country? Religion? Colour? Race?. if you are fully english i mean 100% through DNA than you should be proud but i can gaurantee you will not be 100 English DNA. Even your former prime minister margaret thatcher has 60% Middle eastern DNA. aintthat something? peace...

STUBWFC

No disrespect taken. In fact I have increasing respect for you now that you seem able to argue in a clever manner.

But I believe the demands are provoked by the demands of the Muslim community. If the government sparked this idea up itself, it would already be in place. The idea didn't come from nowhere, it has obviously been proposed at local council meetings etc.

I do understand the people around me. In fact, I make every effort to get to know the ethnic minorities on my estate. Most of them I must say are no different than my white friends. It is simply a minority that give the rest a bad name...and because a large proportion of people aren't like me, and DO fear what they don't understand, they don't make an effort to get to know these people who they beleiev are so much different from them simply because they have a different skin colour, and so generalise the good majority with the same reputation that the evil minority have who are overly exposed in todays media.

No, if Hip Hop hadn't entered my life, I would probably be an even more pleasant person. Unfortunately, I have only just realised that although Hip Hop carries a good message, it brings a lot of negativity with it. I started listening to Hip Hop abround 13 years of age, and by that time, three of my closest friends were Muslim...but you are entitled to your opinion..I'm just letting you know you are wrong. It is your choice whether to believe me or not..but just for the record, I hate the BNP..full of racist bastards who claim not to be, but take advantage of this democratic society to spread their message. I view these people as wankers, and still can't believe they are a growing party in the UK..but as I said, many white people are ignorant to the fact that colour doesn't change who a person is.

No, I'm not fully English. I probably originate from the Anglo-Saxon era, who invaded England. But to be honest, this doesn't make a difference to me. I think you are under the impression that I am proud to be English. I am not patriotic at all. I think Patriotism is the breeding grounds for the feeling of difference, and thus fear and hate. We are all human, as I have stated before.

My principal point for arguing against you is that you defend all Muslims (or as it appears to me) seem to be one who jumps on the bandwagon against any remark (example the veil) made by a white man, and criticise it just because you feel we are all racist, when in fact, we are not, as I have told you repeatedly.
But I am also allowed an opinion, and one I think is totally correct. I think you are blinded by the fact that the many Muslims abuse the UK because you are a Muslim yourself, and you feel when I ciriticise them, I am being racist. But I am not, look at what you said before, about us inviting Muslims into our country. No-one invited them..they made their way over here illegally and totally abuse of Welfare State. This, admittedly, is not just Muslims, but Muslims are a large proportion of the people who take all the benefits our country offers, but don't want to abide by the rules we have established. Why should we change our way of living for a small number of people who don't want to assimiliate to our way of living, simply because they use God as their argument?? If they want their own rules of living, their own, alcohol free prisons, they should fuck off back to their own country instead of demanding seperate NHS clinics or exclusive leisure centre (and no I haven't been to the lesiure centre because they won't let me in...that's the whole concept of it being exclusive).

In our country the English are abused, while the minority immigrants are listened to, merely because they are afraid of people like you calling them racist because you don't get your own way..and instead of accepting that you have no reason for wanting preferential treatment, or thinking of a viable argument to counter the answer "no you can't" you just bring God and racism into the argument to get your own way.

So in answer to your question, I am defending my the people who have a far longer heritage in this country and who are taken advantage of by the immigrants who accept free housing and state benefits but don't work.

Your answer to this will be that it is justified because we:
Stole, raped and pillaged the natural resources of these people, now they have come to your country, trat them with a bit of respect.

No. I didn't do any of these things. That's in the past, and these things are being dealt with through international courts as we speak. Kenya are attempting to take action against the United Kingdom for our actions in Africa, why do you think Gordon Brown is so eager to relieve them of their debt to us?

Don't suppose you get Channel 4 (English TV) over in the US? By any chance you watch dispatches? I thought your previous argument that many Muslims aren't like the extremists held some weight, but it seems I am easily deceived. One of the leading Muslim politicians in the UKIM (a peaceful political party that promotes intergration of Muslims into Britian) was secretly recorded praising a mosque that taught Muslims to hate the "Kuffar" (Non-Muslims) and another leading intergrationist was secretly recorded saying somehing along the lins of "All the Kuffar will die in the Jihad"...peace...

Young H.O.V

as u may forget i used to live in the uk born there. the fact is i saw the programme about the so called mullah's and it was percieved as showing lets kill all non muslims. that programme was utter bullshit, the only truth as the fact that saudis were and are funding aloth of things. They are al qaeda but no says shit because u need oil from them. The imam or whatever he was in one of the video was describing anti christ in islam. This had nothing to do with non muslims. the fact that he said kuffar i assume this and the veil have just come to attention to you are seperate issues. I now am liking you more and more because you are also making reasonable arguments. the fact you say these things about muslims that they only lie off benefits show you are a islamaphobic prick. i am sorry but you are. look at the white trash on tv big brother. Picking on an indian women because she is of different colour. fuck that. Telling her to go back to her slum village, go back to her country, taking he piss out of her accent. That is the real face of britian. Jade goody represents you, the BNP represent you. See you will say no and you are right! but thats what it sounds like when you pick on aminority of muslims in your country, town and then say they are all like this. You are a bigot, you say u have muslim friends, i dont really think so? If you ever ha said these things about muslims to me i would have knocked the shit out of you.

You say the english are abused, fuck are they. What about stephen lawerence., the case of nick griffin your party leader, who was let off for racial hatred charges. ha ha...fuck are the english abused. Yeah they are getting abused in Afganistan by the taliban, those guys are getting fucked right up the ass and no one can do shit except send more pine wood for coffins...

what people are you defending. The blacks who have been in the country since slavery, or just white people. You say you didnt rape pillage etc. But your people from your heritage did and you did invade india and the middleeast and africa and you say these peple dont have a right to exist in your country. Matter of fact its not your country, its going to be a multi cultural country but with areas where people like you cant go. I.e. Brixton, Bradford, you come to some of these areas and the blakcs and asians will rape your white ass and send it back in a glass of your finest pimms..chers mate peace talking to you.Fucking faggot...

nino111

oo000oo00 boy

STUBWFC

Aaah, boring.

The fact is, you are a dick, and I am right. Just leave it at that. I tried comprimising with your racist ass, but you are a dumbass. You are blinded by the wrongdoings of some of the Muslims in the UK because you are Muslim yourself. Get over your Muslim ass and do something positive with your life! Your wasting your time. Your Muslim, big deal. I'm Christian, I don't go hating Muslims and blacks, but you think I do simply because I'm white and arguing against you, who happens to be Muslim. Truth is, I'm only arguin coz you're a dick who's not seeing sense. Man I must have about five emails from people who said I shouldn't even bother with you coz you a dickhead.

You are hated..not coz you are Muslim, because you don't talk no fucking sense, and when you're wrong, you insult people and call them racist.

Besides PMing me for a peace treaty (loser, trhis ain't even beef, it's e-beef, why the fuck you want peace) you still try and act hard when I laugh at your peace offering coz you think you're gangsta..but as I said in the reply back to you..ain't no peace flags on the street..not that this is anything I lose sleep over anyway, you on the internet, why you want peace??? Hahaha.

Do us all a favour and don't come on here again. Get the fuck out.

Oh, and by the way, you truly think Jade Goody represents Englsih society?! If you honestly believe that. then truly my friend, she represents you! Fuckin dumbass lmfao!! And anyone who can't cook a chicken at that age deserves to get abused (even by Jade Goody)..but because the woman is Indian, it immediately becomes racial. Fuckouttahere. What exactly makes Big Brother racist? Post one quote on here from Jade Goody or any of the other housemates that relates to religion of colour and I may take your point seriously..but you won't find anything, czo your arguments are just made of lies.

joe shmo

whats good with ralph nadar

Young H.O.V

shilpa popadom..not racist enough...

Danielle, she should go back to her indian slums....
she shouls go back to her country...

you seriously are a newbie....you need to get the fuck outta here...WE DONT NEED RACISTS LIKE YOU....

STUBWFC

Popadom?! Haha, that's exactly my point, you think that's racist! Nigga, you keep callin me a fuckin whitey. Your a hypocrite, you're more racist than her! Popadum, that's funny, not racist. Racist would be callin her a paki or a nigga, not Popadum. Suck on your thumb you child.

And no, I don't think I'm a newbie..take a look at my profile..I'm a Senior Member..go eat horse shit.

Young H.O.V

they call anyone a senior member, yes u are a newbie, you joined may 2006...suck a dick and lick kk dicks...you fuckin Bigot..Dickhead jade Gody admitted she said racist things sohow can u deny someone was said that the things uttered out of her moth were racist. You keep talking about religions, look at your so called called christian leaders..tut tut...bush, blair or b..liar..These are the leaders of the free wrld and they hanged an innocent man...RIP President Saddam Hussein...

Young H.O.V

if you are so brave tell the people where you are from...your profile says west coast..hows you are a little cowar hidng behind your computer...ha ha...THIS GUY WAS RAPED WHEN HE WAS 11..THAT WAS LAST YEAR..HE IS 12 YEARS OLD NOW.ISNT THAT RIGHT STUBWFC....

STUBWFC

Yes, that was right.............*tumbleweed*

You did the rapin nigga..that's why you left, coz you're gay and I would twat you, even at 12.

My profile says WestCoast coz I'm from the West Coast of England...typical American thinkin the world only expands to your own borders.

Little coward? I'd beat your ass any time, and day, any where

ReppinDaBean

bullshit unless there's a source to back this shit up

Young H.O.V

oh your really on the west coast of england...hmmmm

fucking faggot northerner....poverty sticken mofo.......

Ryder Bompton

Reverend Al Sharpton (April 2007):"Obama never did anything for the community, never worked with anybody from the community, that nobody knows the people around him, that he's a candidate driven by white leadership."

I SAID THIS IN JANUARY,THEN GONE 2 JAIL,THEN IT ALL TURNED TRUE....I KNEW OBAMA WAS A SELLOUT FROM THE DAY ONE,FUCK YALL NAIVE DUMB ASS NIGGAS THAT USE TO BUMP HIM BACK IN THE DAY,NOW COME ON ANS SAY U WAS WRONG....FUCK OBAMA,AINT NO REAL CANDIDATE FOR US IN THIS ELECTION

w3zz1d3

did anybody know that racism, and pride got hitler in office, as a dictator, he used that jews are this jews are that type of psychology and he brainwashed the people, this case is a little similar, you got a bunch of black people supporting obama and al sharpton, just because of their skin color, and the are 2 intelligent indivuduals i can't deny that, but besides that obama did't accomplish any of his promises when he was senator of illinois, and i got the evidence, i've read the document, when i became obsessed with exposing people, also voting yes for obama means voting yes for the war in iran, and selling this country out.......now how many of you know that al sharpton is freemason???and according to my research the top masons are white, jewish and zionist, and al sharpton is in the bottom, which means him and the lower masons follow order from the top masons...so you got a puppet, running for president,another george bush type of man running for president.

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SiLenT_ChI_KillaH

who cares....lets open our arms up when Armageddon comes