A Question

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 11:34 AM

Why Are Artists Such As Diddy For Example Not Afraid To Let The World Know They Had/Have Ghostwriters?

It Dosen't Make Sense

If You Love Hip Hop, Or Even Respect The Art Of Emceeing And The People Who Emcee, Wouldn't You Pen Your Own Rhymes, Even If They Were Wack, At Least You Wrote Em Right?

Dan Russell · 08-21-2006, 11:45 AM

i believe for someone to really regard them self as a rapper/MC/lyricalist is if they can write rhymes with flow and be able to freestyle.....

i can't really see how someone could use a ghostwriter, they wouldn't know exactly how it was put down in tha first place.........

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 11:47 AM

Because those who aren't as mentally challenged as yourself recognise that pure wackness pays no dividends.

Hell, if Diddy wrote his own rhymes they'd be as wack as yours & he'd get shitted on just as much as you do. Instead, dude has ghostwriters, breezes through songs & is a multi-millionaire.

This thread has enlightened me though; that you are so content to tolerate wackness explains why you haven't commited suicide already.

LAWL@your life.

Dan Russell · 08-21-2006, 11:54 AM

you really dont have any idea on how too freestyle do you, did i hate on Diddy faggot? NO< he jus a hip hop artist though, but he cant MC can he, you a fuckin dickhead man, and dont say my shit iz wack when ya ass dont even post shit, i aint got no one hatin on my rhymes at tha moment so go get fucked lil bitch.....

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Russell

i believe for someone to really regard them self as a rapper/MC/lyricalist is if they can write rhymes with flow and be able to freestyle.....

i can't really see how someone could use a ghostwriter, they wouldn't know exactly how it was put down in tha first place.........

Good to know that you don't consider yourself a "rapper/MC/lyricalist". And LMFAO@"lyricalist".

And the latter comment proves how dumb you are monkey. There's this thing called language & we humans use it to communicate both the tangible & intangible. Now the art at hand dictates that one should communicate such in a rhyming form. Now chimp, tell me what is so difficult about understanding how one may convey the tangible & intangible in non-rhyming form to a writer who will then transcribe it, if you will, into rhyming form?

Let's not even venture into the realm of abstract writing either, lest I overstretch your little monkey brain.

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Russell

you really dont have any idea on how too freestyle do you, did i hate on Diddy faggot? NO< he jus a hip hop artist though, but he cant MC can he, you a fuckin dickhead man, and dont say my shit iz wack when ya ass dont even post shit, i aint got no one hatin on my rhymes at tha moment so go get fucked lil bitch.....

LAWL@this dude having a fucking seizure when I wasn't even talking to him.

Dan Russell · 08-21-2006, 12:00 PM

some one who writes and freestyles must also do tha same.....
u really jus sound like a fuckhead, not worth my time, for one dogg you talk like a nerd or a nark or some shit so fuck you, go back to college.....

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Russell

some one who writes and freestyles must also do tha same.....
u really jus sound like a fuckhead, not worth my time, for one dogg you talk like a nerd or a nark or some shit so fuck you, go back to college.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wtf did you just say in that first line????

And yeah, I sound like a "fuckhead", a "nerd" & a "nark" (LAWL, you mean "narc").
In terms of how each would sound; a "fuckhead" would sound stupid; a "nerd" would sound smart; & a "narc" would likely sound street-wise....so wait, what do I sound like again? LAWL.

Now perhaps you could try refuting a single point I made to prove you're not the impish chimp I think you are; or not, it matters little - rather like your life.

Dan Russell · 08-21-2006, 12:15 PM

and piss in ya face, don't talk to me, your a Dick Head OK........

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 12:30 PM

Any Answers As To Why Diddy Even Gets Respected As A "Hip Hop Mogul"/ "Emcee"

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Russell

and piss in ya face, don't talk to me, your a Dick Head OK........

LAWL, stfu R. Kelly!

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyValentine

Any Answers As To Why Diddy Even Gets Respected As A "Hip Hop Mogul"/ "Emcee"

Wow, which are you unaware of:
a) Diddy's fortune
b) what a mogul is

Maybe I should've added a third option for "Both"; bah.

And name one person who respects Diddy as an "emcee" you trailer park bitch.

~Young Gunna~ · 08-21-2006, 02:54 PM

^^yup....if he told erry1 he has ghost writers he wouldnt be a billlionaire

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 02:56 PM

Jim Jones Respects Him As A Emcee

And I Know Excatly What A Mogul Is, Russel Simmons Is A Great Example
And Having Money Dosen't = Being A Hip Hop Mogul

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipset_juelz

^^yup....if he told erry1 he has ghost writers he wouldnt be a billlionaire

He Isn't A Billionaire Now

-Tha FreeStyle King- · 08-21-2006, 03:02 PM

i heard lil wayne has a ghost writer too....when u have a ghost writer u aint really youself in your tracks...cuz u havin somebody else write them fo u.....but p.diddy would still be a billionaire..that nigga gets kids in asia to make his clothes for 8 cents a day and raises up tha prices to make serius bred.

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 03:11 PM

that nigga gets kids in asia to make his clothes for 8 cents a day and raises up tha prices to make serius bread
^WOW Did You Learn That In History Class

And What Is With This "Diddy Is A Billionaire" Talk

He's Got Like 310m Generated

Mike Tyson(The Rich Version)>>>>Diddy(The Rich Version)

Shogun · 08-21-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyValentine

Jim Jones Respects Him As A Emcee

And I Know Excatly What A Mogul Is, Russel Simmons Is A Great Example
And Having Money Dosen't = Being A Hip Hop Mogul

Provide a source for that crackhead Jim Jones claiming he respects Diddy as an emcee; this should be funny considering no-one respects Jones as an emcee.

And money doesn't mean you're a Hip Hop mogul, not at all. Why would would you even say that? Ohhh, because you're too fucking thick to read between the lines.

A mogul is someone who has a fortune; in order to be a Hip Hop mogul your earnings must be related to Hip Hop. A large part of Diddy's fortune was earned through Hip Hop related ventures therefore he is a Hip Hop mogul.

Given that earning a fortune through Hip Hop is the goal of all those aspiring to be Hip Hop moguls (read: pretty much everyone who is involved in the business side of Hip Hop) & that Diddy has achieved this already then maybe you can understand why he is respected.

I can't believe I even have to break things down to this level. No doubt you'll require things to be broken down to an even more pitiful level.

If you're older than 13 or so then you truly are lost as a human being. You must've been too busy getting molested to attend school.

~Young Gunna~ · 08-21-2006, 03:49 PM

i saw it on tv that hes close to a billionaire....i ono tho

Doc Glokk · 08-21-2006, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyValentine

Any Answers As To Why Diddy Even Gets Respected As A "Hip Hop Mogul"/ "Emcee"

Diddy is a producer/rapper, so he doesnt really hafta write his own.

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 05:28 PM

^Your Right, Nobody HAS To Write Their Own Lyrics

BUT

If You Truly Love Hip Hop N Respect The Rappers In The Game, You Should Be Authentic Enough To Write What's Coming Out Of Your Mouth In The Booth

Doc Glokk · 08-21-2006, 05:31 PM

tru indeed, ur right lady v....but none of these fake ass artists give a fuck bout hiphop now, its all about money

LadyValentine · 08-21-2006, 06:32 PM

^And Thats A Damn Shame

I Mean I Can Respect Someone Who Intends To Make Money From Hip Hop But Still Loves Hip Hop Enough To Gives Us Authentic Music(About 75% Of The Rappers In The Game) But Not Dudes With Ghostwriters, Whats The Point Of Even Rapping When Everybody Knows You Didn't Right It, Sure You Get A Hit Record Or Two From It, But At The End Of The Day, A Hit Record You Didn't Write Won't Equal Respect .

08-21-2006, 11:34 AM	#1
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	A Question A Question Why Are Artists Such As Diddy For Example Not Afraid To Let The World Know They Had/Have Ghostwriters? It Dosen't Make Sense If You Love Hip Hop, Or Even Respect The Art Of Emceeing And The People Who Emcee, Wouldn't You Pen Your Own Rhymes, Even If They Were Wack, At Least You Wrote Em Right? __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

08-21-2006, 12:30 PM	#10
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	Any Answers As To Why Diddy Even Gets Respected As A "Hip Hop Mogul"/ "Emcee" __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

08-21-2006, 02:56 PM	#14
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	Jim Jones Respects Him As A Emcee And I Know Excatly What A Mogul Is, Russel Simmons Is A Great Example And Having Money Dosen't = Being A Hip Hop Mogul __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

08-21-2006, 03:11 PM	#17
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	that nigga gets kids in asia to make his clothes for 8 cents a day and raises up tha prices to make serius bread ^WOW Did You Learn That In History Class And What Is With This "Diddy Is A Billionaire" Talk He's Got Like 310m Generated Mike Tyson(The Rich Version)>>>>Diddy(The Rich Version) __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

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LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	^Your Right, Nobody HAS To Write Their Own Lyrics BUT If You Truly Love Hip Hop N Respect The Rappers In The Game, You Should Be Authentic Enough To Write What's Coming Out Of Your Mouth In The Booth __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

08-21-2006, 11:45 AM	#2
Dan Russell D-Block 4 Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth City Posts: 1,374 Repped: 6 Repped 34 Times in 32 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i believe for someone to really regard them self as a rapper/MC/lyricalist is if they can write rhymes with flow and be able to freestyle..... i can't really see how someone could use a ghostwriter, they wouldn't know exactly how it was put down in tha first place.........

08-21-2006, 11:47 AM	#3
Shogun Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 718 Repped: 0 Repped 13 Times in 12 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 4 Posts	Because those who aren't as mentally challenged as yourself recognise that pure wackness pays no dividends. Hell, if Diddy wrote his own rhymes they'd be as wack as yours & he'd get shitted on just as much as you do. Instead, dude has ghostwriters, breezes through songs & is a multi-millionaire. This thread has enlightened me though; that you are so content to tolerate wackness explains why you haven't commited suicide already. LAWL@your life.

08-21-2006, 11:54 AM	#4
Dan Russell D-Block 4 Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth City Posts: 1,374 Repped: 6 Repped 34 Times in 32 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	you really dont have any idea on how too freestyle do you, did i hate on Diddy faggot? NO< he jus a hip hop artist though, but he cant MC can he, you a fuckin dickhead man, and dont say my shit iz wack when ya ass dont even post shit, i aint got no one hatin on my rhymes at tha moment so go get fucked lil bitch.....

08-21-2006, 12:00 PM	#7
Dan Russell D-Block 4 Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth City Posts: 1,374 Repped: 6 Repped 34 Times in 32 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	some one who writes and freestyles must also do tha same..... u really jus sound like a fuckhead, not worth my time, for one dogg you talk like a nerd or a nark or some shit so fuck you, go back to college.....

08-21-2006, 12:15 PM	#9
Dan Russell D-Block 4 Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth City Posts: 1,374 Repped: 6 Repped 34 Times in 32 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	and piss in ya face, don't talk to me, your a Dick Head OK........

08-21-2006, 02:54 PM	#13
~Young Gunna~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gs Us Posts: 10,870 Repped: 156 Repped 574 Times in 243 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	^^yup....if he told erry1 he has ghost writers he wouldnt be a billlionaire

08-21-2006, 03:02 PM	#16
-Tha FreeStyle King- Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,719 Repped: 0 Repped 32 Times in 26 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i heard lil wayne has a ghost writer too....when u have a ghost writer u aint really youself in your tracks...cuz u havin somebody else write them fo u.....but p.diddy would still be a billionaire..that nigga gets kids in asia to make his clothes for 8 cents a day and raises up tha prices to make serius bred.

08-21-2006, 03:49 PM	#19
~Young Gunna~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gs Us Posts: 10,870 Repped: 156 Repped 574 Times in 243 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	i saw it on tv that hes close to a billionaire....i ono tho

08-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#22
Doc Glokk Tha Doctor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,438 Repped: 51 Repped 15 Times in 10 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	tru indeed, ur right lady v....but none of these fake ass artists give a fuck bout hiphop now, its all about money

08-21-2006, 06:32 PM	#23
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	^And Thats A Damn Shame I Mean I Can Respect Someone Who Intends To Make Money From Hip Hop But Still Loves Hip Hop Enough To Gives Us Authentic Music(About 75% Of The Rappers In The Game) But Not Dudes With Ghostwriters, Whats The Point Of Even Rapping When Everybody Knows You Didn't Right It, Sure You Get A Hit Record Or Two From It, But At The End Of The Day, A Hit Record You Didn't Write Won't Equal Respect . __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

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