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Former entertainment lawyer turned author and part-time blogger, Reggie Ossé, shared in his blog today stories of a long ago “secret war” between LL Cool J and Jay-Z . The blog, called Combat Jack With Today’s Mathematics, recounts Damon Dash and DJ Clark Kent’s efforts to provoke a Rap battle between the then '90s king, LL, and the relatively unknown rookie rapper, Jay-Z.
“[Dame and Clark] figured if Jay was known as the dude that kilt LL in battle, record labels would take note and give him that much sought after deal,” wrote Ossé. “Dame and Clark had the plan laid out, whenever LL was spotted by either of them, they would page each other and Jay and get him to meet at whatever location LL was. This went on a couple of times. Once contacted, Jay would roll up to the club, bar or whatever venue and lay in the cut, waiting for his opportunity to attack LL in battle. Dame would polly with, then taunt LL about how Jay was nicer than him, was ready to take his spot even. LL's ego would result in him agreeing to go head to head against the young and then unknown challenger.” At the time (circa 1992) LL had found success with his Grammy-winning album Mama Said Knock You Out, and was known as the king of battle Rap. However, as Ossé tells it, LL had lost those secret battles with Jay-Z. “Dame and Clark would end up in my office the following day, laughing about how Jay lit that ass up. Every time too. They was a bit sour too, cause after each battle, LL would kill the vibe, crush Jay's high by flinging the ‘Yo, my next record is dropping next month, uhm, when's yours coming out again, scrap?’ line at him. Jay, Dame and Clark didn't like that shit. Not one bit. I'm betting those battles are the reason LL is still kinda aggie towards Jay.” Between 2006 and 2008, Jay-Z's presidency at Def Jam Records resulted in a public disapproval from veteran artist LL Cool J, who felt that his career and projects were mishandled, despite deing an artist since 1985 for the label. Source- |
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i am a huge fan of jay z, not much of a fan of LL..however, what jay and them did was some bitch move shit...jay probly had his lines written before the battled started to slaughter him
everyone knows if your known as a great battle rapper, this is mostly likely the case before the success comes...judging by this story, it happened about 4-5 years after LL made a name for himself in the industry, so by then he had softened up and was no longer the hungry battle rapper but now a recording artist while jay at the time, was just one of the illest cats around, if you ever heard jay from those days he was a fucking beast, how fast he spit to his witty lines, incredible...LL should have been smart enough to stay away from him if he had any idea about jay |
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wow, who the fuck is this Osse fucka up here running his mouth on his bumass blog, tryin to get some fame with inside information.....fuck that.....Jay and LL are fine w/each other, i'm sure....
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