tha clan

By illseed

I am going out on a thin limb and will explain to you all why Rick Ross won’t lose.


That's right.


I can't lie. I thought Rick Ross was finished when the Miami rapper was under siege by 50 Cent, the mastermind of destroying careers. Also, when he first came out, I wasn't all that impressed with him as an artist. But, it would seem that, misfortune has made fate smile upon Rick. (For the record, Ross has proclaimed absolute victory. Click here to see the video of this declaration.)


50 Cent was lighting up Ross' life that first week to two weeks of their beef. It was ugly and disrespectful. Sure, Ross started it wit a scant rap line. It was like a kid going up and hitting a beehive and that's exactly how I looked at Ross when he mentioned 50's baby's mother in "Mafia Music." Why would he do such a thing as incite the fury of 50 Cent?


The answer remains a mystery.


Oh, but this is for sure, Ross is in a prime position at this point in 2009.


Be clear, Ross isn't any sort of loser. He experienced his breakout after signing with Def Jam. With Trilla (2008), he topped his first album, Port of Miami (2006)- in my opinion. Two gold-selling albums. Everything was cool, but suddenly thesmokinggun.com confirmed the rumors that Rick Ross had once served as a correctional officer in Miami.


Hip-Hop and the streets gasped collectively! How would he plow though the blasphemy and so-called shame of having such a past (a 9-5 for God's sake!)? How else - thug his way though-as Jay-Z put it. An alleged beatdown of DJ Vlad produced a $4 million lawsuit against the rapper for asking about the occupation. That wasn't a good idea on Ross' crew's part. He continued to tell lil' lies or ignore the rumors. He was in a spider's web, but refused to squirm.


And then there was 50 Cent, who just this year did everything but show Ross in a tutu Jay-Z style. For all intent and purposes, Rick Ross should have had one foot in the rap grave and the other on slippery ice.


Through it all, Ross is still here.


He's here for the same reason Lil' Wayne remains a staple in rap. Remember when those images of Lil Wayne and "daddy " Baby popped up? The uproar! The furor! The name calling! The fans split like the Red Sea! They hated Wayne. They loved Wayne. They thought he was gay. They thought he was straight. Wayne forged ahead to defeat his circumstances in ways that really defies logic (based on the "rules" of Hip-Hop).


Ross' dilemma is similar to Wayne's, but why he won't lose is slightly different.


Rick Ross isn't likely to topple 50 Cent and he doesn't have to collapse the G-Unit Dynasty. All Ross has done has showed some moxie and continuously produce quality music.


To keep it moving, he's been staying on message by calling 50 Cent a "monkey" in a manner than is highly offensive to me. Of course, 50 Cent and G-Unit refer to themselves as gorillas so who am I to question the reduction of status? And Ross now does a lot of laughing and posturing though his own viral videos. As he’s withstood the torrential storm, he’s increased his aggressiveness. It reminds of how Muhammad Ali withstood George Foreman's mighty body shots as he did the rope-a-dope.


50 And Ross have similarities.


In the not-too-distant past, 50 Cent was the underdog and he was regarded as some form of “snitch” for his penchant for writing rhymes with the names of street dudes in them. That’s what they said was considered dry snitching. I wasn’t even aware of this “dry snitching” until 50’s detractors came along. Still, 50 Cent won everybody over (the fans, the streets, corporate America) with his ability to create good, f**kin’ music. He’s a huge success by just about any standard. When the music is right, all the naysayers are forced to fall in line.


Here we are and Ross’ Deeper Than Rap is here. The fans were upset when Ross was not completely honest about his tenure as a C.O., but they really only cared hat he didn’t tell the truth. Fans of music typically willingly believe in the false image that most rappers portray. When they find the facts, they act oh-so-shocked and amazed that Rapper X didn't kill 30 people, only did 3 months in jail and flipped burgers and Mickey D's once or twice. All rappers are phoney to some extent as are most celebrities in general.


Whatever Ross did in his former life really doesn't matter to me.


The music he has been pumping out is dope and his new album sound like his best work to date. There isn't a more eloquent way to describe the music. It’s DOPE. Quality music is truly what the people want in 2009, especially at a time when the industry seems to be struggling to define itself.


So, there you have it, an editorial that could have easily been titled “Why Rick Ross Will Win.”


Epilogue: Right now, 50 Cent and his G-Unit crew continue to berate Rick Ross, but have been very quiet as of late. Rick Ross' baby's mother and 50 are supposed to drop a revelatory book about Ross. My insider intelligence also suggests that there are far more nefarious maneuvers being plotted, but that’s another rumor for another day.



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EZ Early

Dumb ass article

crashxdjp

comparing ross to 50 is fail.

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illseed is dumb

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Tha Unit On Top

Well he has some points. Look, on the real, Ross lost. He was exposed as a fraud, he is a joke, but like Wayne with Baby, people may not care. I dont like Ross, never did, but people think his album is good, he is on Def Jam, he has alot of attention, but how does that make him win? Win how? He wont sell more than 50's last album, and BISD wont drop for months, and Ross calling them monkeys isnt doing shit. 50 been quiet, I mean he pretty much did all you can do to Ross, but say Ross sells 200k like his last albums did, ok, that means what? That he won?

xPaperPlanes78x

even though that sounds like a groupie answer...its soo true...you cant even start compare the two..it would take ross 9348902382 albums just to top fiddy's first album..let alone the massacre...

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EZ Early

HE Does'nt have points its just the typical hate 50 article that gets a spot on sites. An ross will sale more then 200k he is on def jam and he is beefing with 50 so expect them (DEF JAM) to buy more copies. The real reason ross wont loose is because Being real is dead real niggas real people that era is over. It's all about swagger= meaning who can be the biggest fucking charecter. And yes ross is a charecter so he wins by a long shot. The guy lies more then my 6 year old nephew.

21andComptonBLVD

I ain't really down with Officer Ricky but I looked past the beef and shit and Usual Suspects is pretty good track, prolly cus Nas on it too but yeah.

dbone609style

ive never heard one person even talk about his album coming out let alone people that r gona buy it...nobody likes dude, hes wack as fuck n he has been long before this beef with 50...after hustlin, which was good, but then i realized he was the wackest rapper ever... i duno maybe people in miami fuck wit him still but if they do they like some wack ass music

tha clan

wackest rapper ever?
have u even listened to deeper than rap?

GodToYouKids22

ross music as of late>>>>>>>>>>>>50s and u groupies can hate, bitch fit and cry all u want but no1 cares cuz ross is still gon be dropping that heat....def jam fukked up the album by puttin all those features, but the tracks with him alone were all dope

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regularguy30

Its all setup for fif to come out and deliver the knockout..think about it why has 50 been quiet lately?well for one ross pushed his album back and it would be dumb to keep going for another month so he chills for a minute and wait until the album drops and then goes back in on ross..its a strategy.and for niggas saying ross will sell 200k his first week i bet he wont hell be lucky to sell 180 like he did last yr..

regularguy30

yeah i wont hate the music is good but,that doesnt mean i respect that nigga hes a fraud period..

dbone609style

^^^^ aint about bein a groupie or like gunit or none of that... if i dont like a rapper im gona say it...its got nothin to do with anything else, ill tell u wut i dont like about ross as a rapper............first of all i cant stand his voice, his rhyme schemes r wack as fuckk, his style n flow r not nice at all, like to each his own... maybe u gunit haters like everything i just said i didnt, it doesnt matter to me one way or another... i jus think hes wack as a rapper, let alone the fact that he talks more bullshit than anyone in hip hop rite now and on top of all that the whole biggest boss shit really annoys me... like the dude aint no boss, like yea hes fat as fuck which makes him big but jus because boss rhymes with ross dont make u a fuckin boss.... so like i said if yall wana like him then like him, i jus dont n i never have... n all im sayin is ive never heard of anyone even talkin about rick ross except for the fact that banks n 50 been shittin on him, makin him look reall bad... thats all i been hearin, i aint never heard one person talk bout buyin his album or bumpin his shit

dunson23

Well can some of you people answer this for me, if 50 destroyed Ross then why is him name still being mentioned and why is he still standing strong?. It is unusual for a person to be "destroyed" and still be relevant. I will probably get a groupie hate response like the typical ones on here, but imma take a chance.

Flipperacci

If he didn't win already he won't win.

But you got a point. People just don't care. But now I realize that Hip Hop is dead and fake. People only see Hip Hop as music but it's more then that. It's a lifestyle.
I mean in corporate life if Ross would lie about something he would be forced to step back. They give him a pass in Hip Hop.

Same with T.I. The nigga snitched and is still considered as a G and real nigga.
Although Wayne isn't a gangsta rapper he also shouldn't get a pass for that kissing Baby like that. If he did that shit in Iran he would be tortured and executed. But people only care about his music and rappers need him to sing their hooks so everybody is faking like they like each other.

Anyway Ross lost and he took a lot of L's.
Firts of all about the babymomma thing. He said he would pay the bills of Shaniqua Tompkins. But then it's funny to me that Brooke is doing porno movies to provide for his child and he takes the car from his other babymomma Tia. 50 spend more money on Tia then Ross ever did. Thats L nr 1.

If he didn't started beefing with 50 he would never confess being a C.O. After 50 released all his documents Ricky felt the pressure and knew he had to come clean. He was trying to bring all kind of excuses. Thats L nr 2 and I say it agian. 50 made him confess.

Lost nr 3. All the negative publicity. You have somebody punking him on the phone. I've seen officer Ricky T-Shirts. People making fun of his songs and you have now even a pornostar writing a rhyme and dissing him in a videoclip.
It's even an embarrasement that Officer Down sold more on iTunes then Magnificent.

About his music. Ross knows how to rap thats all. And a nigga using T-Pain again on his second album just proves he can't deliver hits by his own. He needs help. If 50 would have those names on his album he would do like 2 million the first week. Take all the featurings aways from his album and what do you have? Nothing!!
14 tracks and only 4 he did by himself. You got to be realistic about his music. Talking about he makes good music. Everybody acting like a Dj Khaled by outting all these names on their albums.

Plus he came up with all kind of reasons about how this beef started. The first reason was the way 50 looked at him. Second reason was of the way 50 dress, that 50 is curly, a gay and a monkey. Now it's becuz Khaled's car being shot up and that 50 don't deliver good music. I just don't get this guy.

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This shit is stupid fuck u illseed lol...

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tha clan

most of what u wrote is right
but i have to disagree with the last point. so what he has features? he outshines them in most of the tracks.
also the reason y 50 doesnt have a more diverse groups of guests is because people dont wanna work with him. face it he barely ever makes appearences on other people's albums apart from his g-unit roster.

but yh apart from that u are correct, ross knows how to rap but now everything he says will be deemed to be fake.

SP3unit

William put out a tight album, I completly forgot Jadakiss came out with an album lol.

Ross has to sell more than Jadakiss first week, he has too. But if he doesn't then Ross has lost and if he sells more, he is good to go but sales shouldn't matter that much unless you are Rick Ross.

If this was 03' Ross would have been out of the game already cos 50 was loved by everyone including Nas fans. But now 50 is enemy no.1 and dudes are gonna support Ross in spite of 50, plain and simple. Look at Kanye, dude lost his damn mind when he sold more than 50 lol.

SP3unit

What tracks are you talking about? Apart from that Trina track i don't know where Ross outshines any1 lol. Ross is nothing without beats, features or in-built hooks. He is an ordinary rapper imo. The album is great with all the combinations but lyrically there are many better out there than Ross.

Raskae

The Clan=Da Shyt from sohh.com the fagggot that makes 100 threads a day about Ross Being the best rapper and Deeper than Crap is DOpe.


His album is trash, he talks about Money on all tracks when he is 1 million net worth, i can see people over my fence who have at least 3 million due to successfull investment and they far from riding Maybachs and Jewls.

He is a CO, he never pushed shit.

I cannot listen to anybody who claims to be rich with 1 million dollars, that is the dumbest shit ever and his shit aint creative, same lines, same wordplay no metaphors.

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fins23

ross is terrible. his flow is garbage, lyrics are terrible, and hes fake as fuck. only thing thats str8 is his beats. he screams boss way too much. he's not a boss of anything. only dude i really respect in miami is trick daddy, just cuz he do his own thang and don't say shit. and im from s. fla. ross is the dumb "monkey" that he claims 50 to be. i swear he's like the black forrest gump when he talks, its comical how stupid he sounds...

Flipperacci

I'm not saying he shouldn't do features. But 10 featurings on a 14 track album. Thats a lil bit too much. And I don't agree with you that he outshines them in most of the tracks. Cause the hits he has on this album are with featurings and not by himself. The only solo hit he has is Hustlin as far as I know. Everything what came after that has featurings. It's easy to say that he delivers good music compared to 50 Cent but if 50 just don't do much featurings. Get Up and I Get It In don't have featurings. Even Crack A Bottle did way better then Magnificent.

People don't wanna work with 50?? 50 worked with Diddy, Jay-Z, DMX, Freeway, LL Cool J, Justin Timberlake, Timbaland, Akon, Lil Kim, Mary J Blige, Styles P, Ciara, Wisin Y Yandell and many more. Don't get it twisted. 50 don't focus on working with other people. Not only people in Hip Hop would like to work with 50 Cent. Look at Game. Game worked with a lot of people but what about BWS? Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne worked with a lot of people but what about YoungMoney. They don't even got a groupalbum, nothing. T.I. also worked with a lot of people but what about Grand Huslte? Where they at? 50 is keeping G-UNIT alive. I hear them on every album and see them on every tour and show. Before 50 starts working with other peoples he made sure he put in some work with Banks and Yayo. And thats the way it should be.

He better!

Flipperacci

Since he said he's going to outsell 50's 12 million sales def matter now.