News Joe Budden On Saigon: "He Begged Me To Leave Him Alone" - Page 2

CreativeMind · 02-02-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by YoungArty

CLEARLY u must be blinded by sai's nuts dangling in front of your computer screen if u can honestly say saigon is somebody in the music industry ...sure that 500K was 6 years ago but when was the last time he released an album ?? def jam fucked him over n now after 6 years he gets his chance again..unlike sai who never HAD n probably will never get the chance to even release one album..
n who is going to admit that they were begging for a beef to stop?? he went hard with some 4th grade punches in his 2 disses saying the same shit...joe actually said different things about sai in the 2 disses..n wasnt talking about some1 else's breath LMAO

bottomline joe won this beef easily

You must can't read well. I never said Saigon was anybody in the music industry. I said he was a casualty of it. Look that up, and maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about when I said that. And again, Joe didn't say anything new in his disses. He just said some new punchlines to dazzle you. Not any new information. Stop letting Joe's 5 minute bar sessons fool you.

If you know and have Hip Hop knowledge like I do, then you can easily see through that and pick it out. I'm not choosing what rapper's side to be on. And I'm going to be real with you. Joe's disses were boring. You can spit bars all day, but it's not effective if you don't deliver it properly. Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying Saigon's disses were any better cause they weren't Although Pushing Buddens was a good diss record. Still didn't do the job.

As for who won this beef, neither of them did. Cause nobody cares on a major scale about either one of them. And this beef did nothing of interest. So stop hyping it. And I doubt anybody was begging for anything. Let's be real, it's not even that serious to beg anybody for anything. All Joe did was exaggerate and put a bigger spin on things than it really is. And Sai conrtinued to pop off at the mouth like he always does.

Again interms of their careers. Joe only got a second chance because of the internet. Again, it's not like he's on a major doing it big somewhere. Cause he ain't. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with going digital. But let's not make dude bigger than what he really is. And Saigon is going independent. So he will get his chance too. Either way, this beef has been rediculosly stupid in my eyes. So I could care less about who won or who didn't at this point. Just get the music out and keep it moving.

CreativeMind · 02-02-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by balling90

Diddy fucking sucks , only 50 and Jay know how to rap. im talking just music quality. It seems all you care about is sales, then you must Love SOulja boy he outsold Joe and Saigon. come on be serious, the emotions these niggas put into their music is much deeper and touching unlike 90 % of rappers out nowdays. yet all you support is whoever sells by catchy dancing songs. (not talking jay & fif) If you made classic music that's wat to be proud of .cause you made the fans feel or change their lives or wateva,,, not all fans only love sales and how much money a pig rapper keeps. you that type of scumbag

anyway if they both made wack disses to each others you are still interested enuff to write about it. haha idk why. Your hating makes me sick . biggest loser? very original

I'm not talking about sales. Because I don't go by that. I'm talking accomplishments, the moves you make. Both of them are on the smaller end of the Hip Hop scale. That's being realistic. And what did I hate on? I didn't take neither of their sides. Cause the beef was pointless to me. And for the record, I hate crap like Souljah Boy and club music. Don't go nowhere near it.

YoungArty · 02-02-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CreativeMind

You must can't read well. I never said Saigon was anybody in the music industry. I said he was a casualty of it. Look that up, and maybe you'd understand what I'm talking about when I said that. And again, Joe didn't say anything new in his disses. He just said some new punchlines to dazzle you. Not any new information. Stop letting Joe's 5 minute bar sessons fool you.

If you know and have Hip Hop knowledge like I do, then you can easily see through that and pick it out. I'm not choosing what rapper's side to be on. And I'm going to be real with you. Joe's disses were boring. You can spit bars all day, but it's not effective if you don't deliver it properly. Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying Saigon's disses were any better cause they weren't Although Pushing Buddens was a good diss record. Still didn't do the job.

As for who won this beef, neither of them did. Cause nobody cares on a major scale about either one of them. And this beef did nothing of interest. So stop hyping it. And I doubt anybody was begging for anything. Let's be real, it's not even that serious to beg anybody for anything. All Joe did was exaggerate and put a bigger spin on things than it really is. And Sai conrtinued to pop off at the mouth like he always does.

Again interms of their careers. Joe only got a second chance because of the internet. Again, it's not like he's on a major doing it big somewhere. Cause he ain't. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with going digital. But let's not make dude bigger than what he really is. And Saigon is going independent. So he will get his chance too. Either way, this beef has been rediculosly stupid in my eyes. So I could care less about who won or who didn't at this point. Just get the music out and keep it moving.

you have a point ..i had another definition of casualty.when i have time i'll post the lyrics to both disses n show how he actually says different things in his disses.i just cant really believe how you can compare the disses between joe n sai because in my eyes i see it as a landslide for budden.n for the boring part i think you can blame that on the beat ..it was plain but joe did good for the boring beat..
joe got a second chance because he has the talent to sell records. he is that versatile.. and i really dont understand what you trying to say when u say he going digital when there will be hard copies available for his new album..is there even a release date for sai's album ?? dude is damn near 32 and not 1 album released

balling90 · 02-03-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CreativeMind

I'm not talking about sales. Because I don't go by that. I'm talking accomplishments, the moves you make. Both of them are on the smaller end of the Hip Hop scale. That's being realistic. And what did I hate on? I didn't take neither of their sides. Cause the beef was pointless to me. And for the record, I hate crap like Souljah Boy and club music. Don't go nowhere near it.

accomplishment? be more specific. you are talking about businessmen and merchandising and shit like that, then of course diddy's wack rapping ass is indeed sucessful in BUSINESS. not MUSIC cause music is about putting emotions and making fans feel special, or give them hope or strength or however you wanna call it. just sayin. and Fifty and Jay-z they make aight music, but not so good at recent. i believe 50's new album will be good tho, but we'll see. and Jay too altho i didnt feel his recent shit his songs were boring. My version of accomplishment is if an artist made some great music for their old fans and made new fans by it, that is the accomplishment. they do get views and listens and all that on internet, and digital will only get bigger and bigger. so dont be so sure They don't stand a chance. mainstream these days only care for non-serious music (politics too) so I rather hear rappers on internet than TV or else cause TV is limited in time, but Net is infinite.

If you dont have Mood Muzik 1 2 and 3 by Joe, you really should, it'll change your mind. and as for Sai, Warning shots and Moral of the story.

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