Article Charli Baltimore: The Long Kiss, Pt. 2 (Lil' Kim, Faith & Living B.I.G.)

robby84 · 01-27-2009, 06:14 PM

By kathy iandoli

Catch up...Charli Baltimore:

AllHipHop.com: They show in Notorious Biggie building the character of Lil’ Kim. How instrumental was Biggie in the building of Charli Baltimore?

Charli Baltimore: I’ve always been me. My style is my style. I guess that’s why Big liked me. Big would come to me for advice about Kim. He was building an artist. As far as I was concerned, I never really had the chance because Big passed before we were able to capitalize or move forward with The Commission, which was our group. As far as [Kim’s] style is concerned, I don’t think you can make somebody an anything. He definitely asked me my advice like what do you think about Kim and how should I approach this and that. I always offered my input. At the end of the day, she still came out the way she came out.

AllHipHop.com: The VIBE article that recently came out talks about how Kim had a problem with this film; she didn’t like how she was portrayed. In the film, she’s a really sympathetic character because she’s getting thrown around the soundbooth by Big, and she’s crying like, “Why doesn’t he love me?” Another thing that she had a problem with was Naturi Naughton being too dark and how she wanted Christina Milian to portray her because she felt it was more accurate.

Charli Baltimore: Wanted Christina Milian to portray her as Lil’ Kim? I wasn’t aware they were the same complexion [laughs]. Again I didn’t see the movie but last I checked, well I don’t know what color she is right now, but she was brown-skinned. Maybe she’s light-skinned now. I don’t know. People change skin tones in this day and age. I can’t see Christina Milian portraying Lil Kim. That’s not…that seems really weird to me, but you know, to each his own.

Junior M.A.F.I.A. f/ The Notorious B.I.G. "Get Money" Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzMNtphKuU

AllHipHop.com: They showed some violent scenes between Lil’ Kim and Big. Did you witness any of that?

Charli Baltimore: The only violence I ever saw was a situation where Big and I were together on the bus and my clothes were strewn all over the bus and I couldn’t figure out why…I didn’t know what was going on at the time. I said, “Why are my clothes all over the bus like this? They were folded up nice and neat.” We were in the back of the bus and I walked off the bus and when I was coming back on…Kim was getting kicked off the bus…foot to her butt, onto the ground. She had rummaged through my clothing, Big was upset about it and he kicked her on the butt off the bus. That was the only violence I’ve ever seen between them.

I mean he’s never touched me on a physical level of any sort, so I don’t know. But like I said, it was a while before I knew they had a personal relationship. We were in videos and everything together, Kim and I. We spoke, we had conversations and everything. Things got a little out of hand towards the end, but it was never anything physical, nah. Not with me and her anyway. I’ve never seen Big strike her. I’ve overheard conversations…later, not during that time…when I came into the industry where it was a weird conversation I overheard that said when you have a female artist, there’s always someone that needs to have sex with that person to gain control over the female.

I felt like that was the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard and it was a conversation actually between Un and Big. So I guess they were debating who should have sexual control over the situation to garner control of the project, because towards the end of Kim’s project there were a lot of problems. So I would say other than that, no I’ve never seen anything.

AllHipHop.com: You and Kim were in the “Get Money” video together…you play Faith.

Charli Baltimore: That’s another thing I’d love to clear up, please, if we can. I’ve said this a zillion times and for some reason people just never listen…I was not playing Faith in that video. I’m a Philly girl. They dye their hair all different colors. I actually had blonde short hair at the time, and I’m a teenager. I’m a teenager, never been in a video…I’m not thinking if I have blonde hair I’m going to be perceived as Faith. That was not the intention. I would never as a woman, a self-respecting woman, portray another woman in a video. Unless we’re doing a movie and we’re doing some sort of biopic, I’d never portray Faith in a video.

I was portraying the person that Big was talking about in the song. It wasn’t Faith either, it was just a record. It was never directed towards Faith. If I had brown hair, they would have never said anything of the sort. Just to clarify that, Big told me, “Yo, before we do this video ma, please dye you hair back brown.” I’m a Philly girl, at the time I’m wearing weave, I’m like, “No n***a I done dyed my hair blonde, I’m not dying it back brown. I’m standing my ground with the blonde hair.”

If I would have known the repercussions that came behind me having this hair, and people saying I was dissing Faith or portraying her in any sense, I would have never done it. Big did definitely asked me to change my hair color. So no, as a self-respecting female, I would never portray another woman, especially someone’s wife in a video. I would never do that so I’d like to clear that up. That was never the case. I just so happened to coincidentally have blonde hair and that’s that.

AllHipHop.com: Ok, thanks for clearing that up. It sounds like there’s no animosity between you and Faith. Was it always cool with you guys or is it just that you’re so far past it now that it’s just like kind of whatever?

Charli Baltimore: We had our bad moments, but at the end of the day once her and Big were completely separated, she was quite respectful towards me and vice versa. I mean we’ve had slight disagreements. Nothing ever physical, not to that extent. We’ve had conversations about Big just like any other women do. They weren’t together. People make it seem like mistress, blah blah blah…they weren’t together. Faith had moved on with her life. You know and soon after Big died she was married. I don’t know how long after he died but she remarried so, you know.

AllHipHop.com: You had been living with Big around the time of his passing. Is that correct?

Charli Baltimore: I had my own place. I stayed with Big from time to time…I had keys. I wasn’t living there per se but I would stay there from time to time. Big had n****s that lived in that house. If I’ma live with somebody it needs to be just be me and that person.

AllHipHop.com: So Kim obviously knew that you were with Biggie?

Charli Baltimore: Umm-hmm. She saw us together many times, I guess she was just not allowed to speak on it. I don’t know. I have no idea. I don’t know how that situation goes, because if I’m with somebody and I’m their girlfriend and there’s somebody else involved, I’m going to speak on it. I’ve been in the studio with Kim, I’ve been in Kim’s company, she’s seen all types of jewelery and cars and everything else Big bought me and never had much to say so I don’t understand where the girlfriend thing comes in at.

AllHipHop.com: When you learned that something was still going on between the two of them, was this when Big was still alive or you found out after the fact?

Charli Baltimore: I knew towards the end, me and Kim had an argument. Me and Kim had a pretty heated argument where…oh yea that turned into a little violent incident [between Big and Kim] from what I understand. I didn’t witness, it but I heard about it.

AllHipHop.com: Oh between him and her?

Charli Baltimore: Between Big and her for her disclosing information to me that I guess she wasn’t supposed to disclose.

AllHipHop.com: Did you know Big the longest out of you, Faith, and Kim?

Charli Baltimore: No I didn’t actually. They knew him way before I did. From what I understand Kim was Big’s babysitter or something to that effect. I came in during the whole separation period. Big had his own place, Faith had her own place and I don’t know where Kim lived. I only saw her in the studio and on the road.

AllHipHop.com: Any final thoughts that you wanted to clear up regarding you and Biggie?

Charli Baltimore: Well anybody that knows Big, or D-Roc or Cease or any person that lived in Big’s house…even Ms. Wallace whether she wants to believe it or not, knows that I was Big’s girl. I don’t need to say it every five minutes, I don’t need to throw Big a dinner every year on his birthday and sit his picture there and pray all praises be to Big. I know what I had with Big, and I don’t need to explain it to everyone.

The only reason I’m really speaking out on it at this point is because something got misconstrued over something else that went on. This really has nothing to do with the movie. This has something to do with an interview I did that got totally misconstrued last year before the movie was even popular and getting ready to come out. Honestly, I wasn’t even going to do any sort of interview or anything about this, but my best friend sort of made me do it and I did it on the strength of let’s just clarify this right fast. Because there are some things, there are some facts that are totally wrong and it’s not cool.

As far as the movie’s concerned, I could care less because it doesn’t really make me a difference. I know what I had with Big and I don’t feel as though I need to constantly go over it and explain it to anyone. Big would turn over in his grave if he saw the circus that was made of his life. I think the people should focus on his music and leave his personal life where it is. He has a son and a daughter and that’s great. It’s a shame he’s not here to see his son and his daughter grow up, and I think that’s what people should think about. Not about who Big was banging. It was a long time ago. I’m sure every woman in this world has someone in their past that they’re like geez and I was dealing with this person, why?

At the end of the day, I was young. People learn from their mistakes. We all were young at the time. I’m not sitting here saying that anything anyone was doing was the right thing. The only person that had any legal obligations to Big was his wife. I’m not going to disrespect anyone in this conversation, because I don’t know what Big was saying to anybody. Big I’m sure was saying one thing to Kim, one thing to Faith and another whole thing to me. I was a teenager so that was one of my first real relationships that I was a part of. I had never vibed with someone that was separated from a wife. So I don’t know the ins and outs of how that goes, so you know I learned as I went along.

Source: Allhiphop

ns_diplomat · 01-28-2009, 01:07 AM

lmao that shit is getting ridiculous. Lil Kim and Charlie and Faith are fighting..now that Big is gone (R.I.P)...to say they were wifey lmao!

Ieshia86 · 01-28-2009, 01:47 PM

Im am so over hearing her and kim talk about who was big girl

He was not even all that Yeah he was a good Rapper but not all that to be fighting over

lets be forreal

Gelz XXL · 01-28-2009, 02:30 PM

RECESSION....shit is depressing

*50*CENT*WIFE* · 01-28-2009, 10:35 PM

Lol at kim and charli tryna get they 15mins of fame back from the biggie movie lol...

Maully Da Don · 01-29-2009, 09:47 AM

^^^^lmfaoo

BrooklynZ Finest · 01-29-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maully Da Don

^^^^lmfaoo

word, that shit is ridiculous...

MS DIOR · 01-29-2009, 12:01 PM

she still trying to say biggie was her man

Braza · 01-29-2009, 01:27 PM

this shit is ridiculous

B.A.N.K.S · 01-30-2009, 03:05 AM

Good read.... they was all riding big nuts a lil too hard and they know it wasnt cause he was a "fly nigga"

01-27-2009, 06:14 PM	#1
robby84 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queenz Bred, livin life in Y.O. Posts: 8,583 Repped: 3,247 Repped 13,915 Times in 1,127 Posts Neg Reps: 12 Neg Repped at 8 Times in 8 Posts	Charli Baltimore: The Long Kiss, Pt. 2 (Lil' Kim, Faith & Living B.I.G.) Charli Baltimore: The Long Kiss, Pt. 2 (Lil' Kim, Faith & Living B.I.G.) By kathy iandoli Catch up...Charli Baltimore: AllHipHop.com: They show in Notorious Biggie building the character of Lil’ Kim. How instrumental was Biggie in the building of Charli Baltimore? Charli Baltimore: I’ve always been me. My style is my style. I guess that’s why Big liked me. Big would come to me for advice about Kim. He was building an artist. As far as I was concerned, I never really had the chance because Big passed before we were able to capitalize or move forward with The Commission, which was our group. As far as [Kim’s] style is concerned, I don’t think you can make somebody an anything. He definitely asked me my advice like what do you think about Kim and how should I approach this and that. I always offered my input. At the end of the day, she still came out the way she came out. AllHipHop.com: The VIBE article that recently came out talks about how Kim had a problem with this film; she didn’t like how she was portrayed. In the film, she’s a really sympathetic character because she’s getting thrown around the soundbooth by Big, and she’s crying like, “Why doesn’t he love me?” Another thing that she had a problem with was Naturi Naughton being too dark and how she wanted Christina Milian to portray her because she felt it was more accurate. Charli Baltimore: Wanted Christina Milian to portray her as Lil’ Kim? I wasn’t aware they were the same complexion [laughs]. Again I didn’t see the movie but last I checked, well I don’t know what color she is right now, but she was brown-skinned. Maybe she’s light-skinned now. I don’t know. People change skin tones in this day and age. I can’t see Christina Milian portraying Lil Kim. That’s not…that seems really weird to me, but you know, to each his own. Junior M.A.F.I.A. f/ The Notorious B.I.G. "Get Money" Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzMNtphKuU AllHipHop.com: They showed some violent scenes between Lil’ Kim and Big. Did you witness any of that? Charli Baltimore: The only violence I ever saw was a situation where Big and I were together on the bus and my clothes were strewn all over the bus and I couldn’t figure out why…I didn’t know what was going on at the time. I said, “Why are my clothes all over the bus like this? They were folded up nice and neat.” We were in the back of the bus and I walked off the bus and when I was coming back on…Kim was getting kicked off the bus…foot to her butt, onto the ground. She had rummaged through my clothing, Big was upset about it and he kicked her on the butt off the bus. That was the only violence I’ve ever seen between them. I mean he’s never touched me on a physical level of any sort, so I don’t know. But like I said, it was a while before I knew they had a personal relationship. We were in videos and everything together, Kim and I. We spoke, we had conversations and everything. Things got a little out of hand towards the end, but it was never anything physical, nah. Not with me and her anyway. I’ve never seen Big strike her. I’ve overheard conversations…later, not during that time…when I came into the industry where it was a weird conversation I overheard that said when you have a female artist, there’s always someone that needs to have sex with that person to gain control over the female. I felt like that was the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard and it was a conversation actually between Un and Big. So I guess they were debating who should have sexual control over the situation to garner control of the project, because towards the end of Kim’s project there were a lot of problems. So I would say other than that, no I’ve never seen anything. AllHipHop.com: You and Kim were in the “Get Money” video together…you play Faith. Charli Baltimore: That’s another thing I’d love to clear up, please, if we can. I’ve said this a zillion times and for some reason people just never listen…I was not playing Faith in that video. I’m a Philly girl. They dye their hair all different colors. I actually had blonde short hair at the time, and I’m a teenager. I’m a teenager, never been in a video…I’m not thinking if I have blonde hair I’m going to be perceived as Faith. That was not the intention. I would never as a woman, a self-respecting woman, portray another woman in a video. Unless we’re doing a movie and we’re doing some sort of biopic, I’d never portray Faith in a video. I was portraying the person that Big was talking about in the song. It wasn’t Faith either, it was just a record. It was never directed towards Faith. If I had brown hair, they would have never said anything of the sort. Just to clarify that, Big told me, “Yo, before we do this video ma, please dye you hair back brown.” I’m a Philly girl, at the time I’m wearing weave, I’m like, “No n*a I done dyed my hair blonde, I’m not dying it back brown. I’m standing my ground with the blonde hair.” If I would have known the repercussions that came behind me having this hair, and people saying I was dissing Faith or portraying her in any sense, I would have never done it. Big did definitely asked me to change my hair color. So no, as a self-respecting female, I would never portray another woman, especially someone’s wife in a video. I would never do that so I’d like to clear that up. That was never the case. I just so happened to coincidentally have blonde hair and that’s that. AllHipHop.com: Ok, thanks for clearing that up. It sounds like there’s no animosity between you and Faith. Was it always cool with you guys or is it just that you’re so far past it now that it’s just like kind of whatever? Charli Baltimore: We had our bad moments, but at the end of the day once her and Big were completely separated, she was quite respectful towards me and vice versa. I mean we’ve had slight disagreements. Nothing ever physical, not to that extent. We’ve had conversations about Big just like any other women do. They weren’t together. People make it seem like mistress, blah blah blah…they weren’t together. Faith had moved on with her life. You know and soon after Big died she was married. I don’t know how long after he died but she remarried so, you know. AllHipHop.com: You had been living with Big around the time of his passing. Is that correct? Charli Baltimore: I had my own place. I stayed with Big from time to time…I had keys. I wasn’t living there per se but I would stay there from time to time. Big had ns that lived in that house. If I’ma live with somebody it needs to be just be me and that person. AllHipHop.com: So Kim obviously knew that you were with Biggie? Charli Baltimore: Umm-hmm. She saw us together many times, I guess she was just not allowed to speak on it. I don’t know. I have no idea. I don’t know how that situation goes, because if I’m with somebody and I’m their girlfriend and there’s somebody else involved, I’m going to speak on it. I’ve been in the studio with Kim, I’ve been in Kim’s company, she’s seen all types of jewelery and cars and everything else Big bought me and never had much to say so I don’t understand where the girlfriend thing comes in at. AllHipHop.com: When you learned that something was still going on between the two of them, was this when Big was still alive or you found out after the fact? Charli Baltimore: I knew towards the end, me and Kim had an argument. Me and Kim had a pretty heated argument where…oh yea that turned into a little violent incident [between Big and Kim] from what I understand. I didn’t witness, it but I heard about it. AllHipHop.com: Oh between him and her? Charli Baltimore: Between Big and her for her disclosing information to me that I guess she wasn’t supposed to disclose. AllHipHop.com: Did you know Big the longest out of you, Faith, and Kim? Charli Baltimore: No I didn’t actually. They knew him way before I did. From what I understand Kim was Big’s babysitter or something to that effect. I came in during the whole separation period. Big had his own place, Faith had her own place and I don’t know where Kim lived. I only saw her in the studio and on the road. AllHipHop.com: Any final thoughts that you wanted to clear up regarding you and Biggie? Charli Baltimore:** Well anybody that knows Big, or D-Roc or Cease or any person that lived in Big’s house…even Ms. Wallace whether she wants to believe it or not, knows that I was Big’s girl. I don’t need to say it every five minutes, I don’t need to throw Big a dinner every year on his birthday and sit his picture there and pray all praises be to Big. I know what I had with Big, and I don’t need to explain it to everyone. The only reason I’m really speaking out on it at this point is because something got misconstrued over something else that went on. This really has nothing to do with the movie. This has something to do with an interview I did that got totally misconstrued last year before the movie was even popular and getting ready to come out. Honestly, I wasn’t even going to do any sort of interview or anything about this, but my best friend sort of made me do it and I did it on the strength of let’s just clarify this right fast. Because there are some things, there are some facts that are totally wrong and it’s not cool. As far as the movie’s concerned, I could care less because it doesn’t really make me a difference. I know what I had with Big and I don’t feel as though I need to constantly go over it and explain it to anyone. Big would turn over in his grave if he saw the circus that was made of his life. I think the people should focus on his music and leave his personal life where it is. He has a son and a daughter and that’s great. It’s a shame he’s not here to see his son and his daughter grow up, and I think that’s what people should think about. Not about who Big was banging. It was a long time ago. I’m sure every woman in this world has someone in their past that they’re like geez and I was dealing with this person, why? At the end of the day, I was young. People learn from their mistakes. We all were young at the time. I’m not sitting here saying that anything anyone was doing was the right thing. The only person that had any legal obligations to Big was his wife. I’m not going to disrespect anyone in this conversation, because I don’t know what Big was saying to anybody. Big I’m sure was saying one thing to Kim, one thing to Faith and another whole thing to me. I was a teenager so that was one of my first real relationships that I was a part of. I had never vibed with someone that was separated from a wife. So I don’t know the ins and outs of how that goes, so you know I learned as I went along. Source: Allhiphop __________________ Most loved/Hated Moderator "Stop Bitchin" - Robby Last edited by robby84; 01-27-2009 at 06:17 PM.

01-28-2009, 01:07 AM	#2
ns_diplomat Reppin' 514 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 514 - MTL - 514 Posts: 14,948 Repped: 664 Repped 1,324 Times in 538 Posts Neg Reps: 42 Neg Repped at 76 Times in 61 Posts	lmao that shit is getting ridiculous. Lil Kim and Charlie and Faith are fighting..now that Big is gone (R.I.P)...to say they were wifey lmao! __________________ G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath!! "Shout out to all the people in Montreal - Montreal is real hood. Real gangsta out there." - Juelz Santana

01-28-2009, 01:47 PM	#3
Ieshia86 IM A FEMALE Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BRONX NY Posts: 5,592 Repped: 2,842 Repped 6,447 Times in 791 Posts Neg Reps: 24 Neg Repped at 26 Times in 20 Posts	Im am so over hearing her and kim talk about who was big girl He was not even all that Yeah he was a good Rapper but not all that to be fighting over lets be forreal __________________

01-28-2009, 10:35 PM	#5
50CENTWIFE R.I.P MIKE :( Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: THE EAST COAST Posts: 15,976 Repped: 2,510 Repped 728 Times in 139 Posts Neg Reps: 6 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 11 Posts	Lol at kim and charli tryna get they 15mins of fame back from the biggie movie lol... __________________ .....MKJ.....B.I.S.D.OUT.NOW.....

01-29-2009, 09:47 AM	#6
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01-28-2009, 02:30 PM	#4
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MS DIOR ♥ IM A FEMALE ♥ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WITH 50 ;) Posts: 8,157 Repped: 967 Repped 716 Times in 241 Posts Neg Reps: 79 Neg Repped at 28 Times in 28 Posts	she still trying to say biggie was her man __________________ CHR!SSY:TH3 OR!G!N@L..HATING IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY....FUCK YOU! ;)

01-29-2009, 01:27 PM	#9
Braza Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 8,188 Repped: 4,163 Repped 1,269 Times in 487 Posts Neg Reps: 258 Neg Repped at 118 Times in 106 Posts	this shit is ridiculous __________________

01-30-2009, 03:05 AM	#10
B.A.N.K.S Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cali is the place to be Posts: 1,309 Repped: 224 Repped 167 Times in 115 Posts Neg Reps: 58 Neg Repped at 29 Times in 26 Posts	Good read.... they was all riding big nuts a lil too hard and they know it wasnt cause he was a "fly nigga"

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