Article Worst Decisions In Hip-Hop History

Black Superman · 09-10-2008, 10:36 AM

A trip to my barbershop took me down memory lane this past weekend.

They were playing old Video Music Box episodes all afternoon, so I got to see videos I forgot existed like EPMD’s “Crossover.” But one video in particular caught my attention: “1, 2 Pass The Mic” by the D&D All-Stars, the original not the remix. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the classic boom bap track, it features DJ Premier on production with KRS-One, Doug E. Fresh, Smiff-N-Wessun and Jeru Damaja on vocals. Hearing Jeru spit over Primo’s beat, I couldn’t help but think about how his career spiraled down since they split. Heroz 4 Hire had a few tracks, but his post-Primo work has never measured up to The Sun Rises In The East and Wrath Of Math (YES! IT WAS DOPE!!) Why leave Preme? What a horrible decision!

As the videos kept playing, I started thinking about some of the worst decisions in hip-hop history. Since this is off the top, I’m likely to forget some bad ones, so I thought of five and you guys could add the remaining five in the comments. Here are mine, including the aforementioned Jeru one.

Prodigy Jabs At Jay-Z: P was one of the illest MCs out pre-”Takeover.” I never quite understood it, because as Ron Mexico will further explore in the SDN (Smart Dumb Nigga) tournament, P’s pretty much a moron in regular conversations, but has penned some of the most brilliantly thuggish lines ever. In an old Source Magazine interview, P complained about Hov’s “New York’s been soft ever since Snoop came through and crushed them buildings” line from “Money Cash Hoes” and jabbed that the God Emcee was “quiet like a bitch” during the East Coast/West Coast feud. Well, Hov got wind of the remarks, destroyed P on “Takeover” and the Queens MC has struggled to make two consecutive lines rhyme since. Maybe P should have stayed quiet like a bitch.

Canibus Works With Clef, Not Premier: Jesus! The Source did used to be the hip-hop bible. I remember reading that Bis was in the lab with DJ Premier during the publication’s Summer Music Preview back in the day. Preme could do no wrong at the time, so any collaboration between the two was a classic waiting to happen. If only “Second Round Knock Out” had been indicative of Can-I-Bus. Clef isn’t solely to blame for the blunder. Bis should have been man enough to tell him them beats were wack. I’m sure Clef had plenty of heat in the chamber. It just ended up being a bad fit. Bis could have been one of the illest of all time. Now he’s all he can be in the marines or some crap.

Ja Rule Snubbing 50 Cent: For argument’s sake, we’ll take Ja Rule’s side of the story. To let Jeffrey tell it, Fif grew obsessively angry with him after he snubbed him at some video shoot. At the time, Ja was “Always On Time” and Fif was still figuring out “How To Rob” industry negras. The tension eventually escalated, 50 punched Ja in Atlanta, Black Child poked 50 at the Hit Factory in New York, Murder Inc. tried blackballing Fif, Fif signed with Shady/Aftermath and Fif vaporized Ja’s career. If only he said hi at the video shoot. They may have ended up doing songs together. Ja’s career would probably still be over today, but at least he could have lasted a few more years.

Signing With Diddy:

Forget 10, 11 years later Puff Daddy is still somewhat on top. The Harlem mogul doesn’t control 40% of the Billboard charts like he once did, but he consistently ranks among top earners in hip-hop. Yup! Diddy’s career has lasted over a decade, but the same can’t be said for any of his artists. At least not on a prominent level. Craig Mack, no. Biggie, R.I.P. 112, nope! Total, where? Mase quit to become a pastor. Shyne got caught up and is currently serving the 9th year of a 10-year sentence. Loon, where? G. Dep was last spotted scheming on some chicken wings at Cassidy’s listening session. Black Rob is stealing old lady purses out of hotels. The Lox got raped for their publishing for years. Members of Da Band are working at Wal-Mart and Starbucks. Carl Thomas…where? Need I say more?

In your opinion, what are some of the worst decisions in hip-hop history?

xxl

thastickiesteva · 09-10-2008, 10:56 AM

50 getting mad cause game wouldn't beef

Yb187 · 09-10-2008, 11:00 AM

no doubt on the ja and fif one, jas an idiot

Miked24 · 09-10-2008, 12:42 PM

Benzino goin at Em,
DMX usin crack

bk 42 · 09-10-2008, 12:54 PM

the worst decision in hip hop is plies rick ross d4l dem franchise boyz paul wall ace hood dj khaled flo rida mike jones lil boosie webbie and etc making music.

BlackWallStrippers · 09-10-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk 42

the worst decision in hip hop is plies rick ross d4l dem franchise boyz paul wall ace hood dj khaled flo rida mike jones lil boosie webbie and etc making music.

nice sig bro, I wanna go there some day..

DemonicSinn · 09-10-2008, 01:08 PM

50 signing Mobb Deep to G-Unit. Didn't really help either of them.

LadyValentine · 09-10-2008, 01:41 PM

^It did help Mobb Deep...G-Unit fans really embraced them...especially Prodigy.

26shotz · 09-10-2008, 01:46 PM

^^^^ Yea all 30000 albums they sold

g-unit buzzin · 09-10-2008, 02:09 PM

^^^^^^^lol

Boxer · 09-10-2008, 02:16 PM

Jay-z retiring...name one person who actually gave a shit lol

All Ready The MVP · 09-10-2008, 04:26 PM

2pac going to vegas whit suge cuz at first he didnt wanna go

OneManArmy · 09-10-2008, 04:40 PM

Did I really not see the signing of Soulja Boy??

jondoejondoe195 · 09-10-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by THE REAL MVP

2pac going to vegas whit suge cuz at first he didnt wanna go

We can add Biggie going to Cali.....
and 2Pac playing with the REAL THUGS!!!!!

EVERYONE WHO FUCKED UP THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH DR. DRE from Easy-E/Jerry Heller to Suge/Deathrow.... if there is ANY 1 PERSON IN HIP-HOP (MAYBE MUSIC) to KEEP HAPPY ITS DRE, I mean its like 1/2 or more of what he does turns platinum.

Whatever MC Shan did to piss off KRS-One (which I think he just said he did not want to sign BDP or rejected them in some way).... not really sure how avoidable this one was.

also Game beefin with 50 (or I prefer label it as Game listening to Jimmy the Henchman, jimmy even said before he was to blame for the fued)....

Columbia not releasing Power of the Dollar

ALL THE COMPANIES WHO KEPT PASSING ON DEATHROW!!!!

but there sooo many I could go on all day.

LawrenceSouljah · 09-10-2008, 07:09 PM

50 signin' Mase, beefin with Diddy over Mase, Wayne stickin' with Baby, Dre sleepin' on Rakim, Joell Ortiz, etc. Every rapper robbin (allegedly) every other rapper than jumpin on the internet braggin about it, every rapper showin' their burners and techs in every low budget ass video then wonderin' why police be checkin them for guns, I can go on.

Yung_Rich · 09-10-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LawrenceSouljah

50 signin' Mase, beefin with Diddy over Mase, Wayne stickin' with Baby, Dre sleepin' on Rakim, Joell Ortiz, etc. Every rapper robbin (allegedly) every other rapper than jumpin on the internet braggin about it, every rapper showin' their burners and techs in every low budget ass video then wonderin' why police be checkin them for guns, I can go on.

diff. not ....mase iz da illest

TeGo · 09-10-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 26shotz

^^^^ Yea all 30000 albums they sold

uhhh.. Blood Money went gold so wat u sayin.. ??

AUTUMN_DEATH · 09-10-2008, 07:20 PM

jay z being made president of def jam he really fucked up def jam. signing all sorts of pop singers and using all the promotional budget on his own album no one else got promotion except for kanye and that was because he had the brains to go head to head wit fif

AUTUMN_DEATH · 09-10-2008, 07:22 PM

gay z being made president of def jam he really fucked up def jam. signing all sorts of pop singers and using all the promotional budget on his own album no one else got promotion except for kanye and that was because he had the brains to go head to head wit fif

Y0UNG PR0FIT · 09-10-2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk 42

the worst decision in hip hop is plies rick ross d4l dem franchise boyz paul wall ace hood dj khaled flo rida mike jones lil boosie webbie and etc making music.

Lil boosie is dope, plies is dope, webbie is D O P E......gtfo

JmcGrew07 · 09-10-2008, 08:02 PM

eminem and dre not working with game because the bitch 50 says so..they could make so much more money with him L.A.X would have sold over 500,000 first week easily if they were still together

bk 42 · 09-10-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y0UNG PR0FIT

Lil boosie is dope, plies is dope, webbie is D O P E......gtfo

your an idiot with a dumb statement like that there is no need to argue with you.

Lil Bad Uno · 09-10-2008, 08:24 PM

Worzst ev3r 50 signs doja 2 g-unit

G-uNIT!!4 LYFE · 09-10-2008, 08:32 PM

lmao imagine if the ja/50 beef never happened i can see them making tracks together lmao

MakaveIi · 09-10-2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyValentine

^It did help Mobb Deep...G-Unit fans really embraced them...especially Prodigy.

Yeah, the G Unit fans embraced them, but the Mobb Deep fans didn't.

09-10-2008, 10:36 AM	#1
Black Superman Show Time Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,588 Repped: 259 Repped 5,423 Times in 619 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 9 Posts	Worst Decisions In Hip-Hop History Worst Decisions In Hip-Hop History A trip to my barbershop took me down memory lane this past weekend. They were playing old Video Music Box episodes all afternoon, so I got to see videos I forgot existed like EPMD’s “Crossover.” But one video in particular caught my attention: “1, 2 Pass The Mic” by the D&D All-Stars, the original not the remix. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the classic boom bap track, it features DJ Premier on production with KRS-One, Doug E. Fresh, Smiff-N-Wessun and Jeru Damaja on vocals. Hearing Jeru spit over Primo’s beat, I couldn’t help but think about how his career spiraled down since they split. Heroz 4 Hire had a few tracks, but his post-Primo work has never measured up to The Sun Rises In The East and Wrath Of Math (YES! IT WAS DOPE!!) Why leave Preme? What a horrible decision! As the videos kept playing, I started thinking about some of the worst decisions in hip-hop history. Since this is off the top, I’m likely to forget some bad ones, so I thought of five and you guys could add the remaining five in the comments. Here are mine, including the aforementioned Jeru one. Prodigy Jabs At Jay-Z: P was one of the illest MCs out pre-”Takeover.” I never quite understood it, because as Ron Mexico will further explore in the SDN (Smart Dumb Nigga) tournament, P’s pretty much a moron in regular conversations, but has penned some of the most brilliantly thuggish lines ever. In an old Source Magazine interview, P complained about Hov’s “New York’s been soft ever since Snoop came through and crushed them buildings” line from “Money Cash Hoes” and jabbed that the God Emcee was “quiet like a bitch” during the East Coast/West Coast feud. Well, Hov got wind of the remarks, destroyed P on “Takeover” and the Queens MC has struggled to make two consecutive lines rhyme since. Maybe P should have stayed quiet like a bitch. Canibus Works With Clef, Not Premier: Jesus! The Source did used to be the hip-hop bible. I remember reading that Bis was in the lab with DJ Premier during the publication’s Summer Music Preview back in the day. Preme could do no wrong at the time, so any collaboration between the two was a classic waiting to happen. If only “Second Round Knock Out” had been indicative of Can-I-Bus. Clef isn’t solely to blame for the blunder. Bis should have been man enough to tell him them beats were wack. I’m sure Clef had plenty of heat in the chamber. It just ended up being a bad fit. Bis could have been one of the illest of all time. Now he’s all he can be in the marines or some crap. Ja Rule Snubbing 50 Cent: For argument’s sake, we’ll take Ja Rule’s side of the story. To let Jeffrey tell it, Fif grew obsessively angry with him after he snubbed him at some video shoot. At the time, Ja was “Always On Time” and Fif was still figuring out “How To Rob” industry negras. The tension eventually escalated, 50 punched Ja in Atlanta, Black Child poked 50 at the Hit Factory in New York, Murder Inc. tried blackballing Fif, Fif signed with Shady/Aftermath and Fif vaporized Ja’s career. If only he said hi at the video shoot. They may have ended up doing songs together. Ja’s career would probably still be over today, but at least he could have lasted a few more years. Signing With Diddy: Forget 10, 11 years later Puff Daddy is still somewhat on top. The Harlem mogul doesn’t control 40% of the Billboard charts like he once did, but he consistently ranks among top earners in hip-hop. Yup! Diddy’s career has lasted over a decade, but the same can’t be said for any of his artists. At least not on a prominent level. Craig Mack, no. Biggie, R.I.P. 112, nope! Total, where? Mase quit to become a pastor. Shyne got caught up and is currently serving the 9th year of a 10-year sentence. Loon, where? G. Dep was last spotted scheming on some chicken wings at Cassidy’s listening session. Black Rob is stealing old lady purses out of hotels. The Lox got raped for their publishing for years. Members of Da Band are working at Wal-Mart and Starbucks. Carl Thomas…where? Need I say more? In your opinion, what are some of the worst decisions in hip-hop history? xxl __________________ HH Board's Top 5 or Better... Who Hotter Than Me? HIT DA REP OR CLICK THE GREEN

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Yb187 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PEG CITY Posts: 3,824 Repped: 2,271 Repped 2,388 Times in 284 Posts Neg Reps: 38 Neg Repped at 5 Times in 5 Posts	no doubt on the ja and fif one, jas an idiot __________________

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bk 42 i am kidrobot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the lab Posts: 2,403 Repped: 650 Repped 6,991 Times in 659 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 31 Times in 22 Posts	the worst decision in hip hop is plies rick ross d4l dem franchise boyz paul wall ace hood dj khaled flo rida mike jones lil boosie webbie and etc making music. __________________ areyouinthatmoodyet.com Joe Budden - The Great Escape COMING SOON

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DemonicSinn AKA Ty-G Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cincinnati/Hanover Park, IL Posts: 4,720 Repped: 1,114 Repped 640 Times in 171 Posts Neg Reps: 76 Neg Repped at 95 Times in 56 Posts	50 signing Mobb Deep to G-Unit. Didn't really help either of them. __________________ IDGAF about bein Neg Repped. You can't trade rep points in for money, nigga. LOL

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LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	^It did help Mobb Deep...G-Unit fans really embraced them...especially Prodigy. __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

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thastickiesteva Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Canoga park Posts: 666 Repped: 3 Repped 96 Times in 71 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 99 Times in 66 Posts	50 getting mad cause game wouldn't beef

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Miked24 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 48 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Benzino goin at Em, DMX usin crack

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26shotz Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Providence Posts: 3,548 Repped: 883 Repped 565 Times in 173 Posts Neg Reps: 37 Neg Repped at 69 Times in 46 Posts	^^^^ Yea all 30000 albums they sold

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g-unit buzzin Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 677 Repped: 55 Repped 36 Times in 2 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	^^^^^^^lol __________________

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Boxer Habitual Smoker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: City Of Angels Posts: 407 Repped: 57 Repped 154 Times in 61 Posts Neg Reps: 14 Neg Repped at 38 Times in 30 Posts	Jay-z retiring...name one person who actually gave a shit lol

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OneManArmy Super Moderatоr Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: enecS eht no kcaB Posts: 10,944 Repped: 2,664 Repped 673 Times in 356 Posts Neg Reps: 150 Neg Repped at 48 Times in 44 Posts	*Did I really not see the signing of Soulja Boy??* __________________

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LawrenceSouljah Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,206 Repped: 703 Repped 147 Times in 88 Posts Neg Reps: 2 Neg Repped at 7 Times in 5 Posts	50 signin' Mase, beefin with Diddy over Mase, Wayne stickin' with Baby, Dre sleepin' on Rakim, Joell Ortiz, etc. Every rapper robbin (allegedly) every other rapper than jumpin on the internet braggin about it, every rapper showin' their burners and techs in every low budget ass video then wonderin' why police be checkin them for guns, I can go on. __________________ I see you using an old style, I wondered where you had learned it from. You know very well, it's yours too

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AUTUMN_DEATH Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 774 Repped: 38 Repped 54 Times in 31 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 30 Times in 26 Posts	jay z being made president of def jam he really fucked up def jam. signing all sorts of pop singers and using all the promotional budget on his own album no one else got promotion except for kanye and that was because he had the brains to go head to head wit fif

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AUTUMN_DEATH Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 774 Repped: 38 Repped 54 Times in 31 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 30 Times in 26 Posts	gay z being made president of def jam he really fucked up def jam. signing all sorts of pop singers and using all the promotional budget on his own album no one else got promotion except for kanye and that was because he had the brains to go head to head wit fif

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JmcGrew07 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 965 Repped: 247 Repped 331 Times in 155 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	eminem and dre not working with game because the bitch 50 says so..they could make so much more money with him L.A.X would have sold over 500,000 first week easily if they were still together

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Lil Bad Uno Born and Raised in Bpt Join Date: May 2008 Location: US Posts: 1,070 Repped: 157 Repped 163 Times in 45 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Worzst ev3r 50 signs doja 2 g-unit __________________ zshare.net/download/1906929794e9d899 Support spider download Connected 4

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G-uNIT!!4 LYFE OG Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: LOS ANGELES,CALI Posts: 3,838 Repped: 1,512 Repped 107 Times in 88 Posts Neg Reps: 30 Neg Repped at 13 Times in 10 Posts	lmao imagine if the ja/50 beef never happened i can see them making tracks together lmao __________________

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