Article 07/15/08 - The End of An Empire: The Rise & Fall of The G-Unit Reign

Queensbridge · 07-15-2008, 05:34 PM

Can It Be That It Was All So Simple Then…

All good things come to an end. G-Unit’s run of being rap’s most influential crew is over.

Let’s make it clear though. This NOT about 50 Cent’s personal career. This is about G-Unit the rap group; G-Unit the brand name.

But before they fell off, hate it or love it, G-Unit revolutionized the game.

“G-Unit nigga/that’s what’s up.” That was our first introduction to Lloyd Banks, Tony Yayo, and 50 Cent as “G-Unit” on 50’s mixtape “Guess Who’s Back.”

The key: it came on a mixtape, not hosted by a DJ.

50 Cent and his G-Unit crew were the first to successfully pull off their own mixtapes as a way of providing new music & generating new fans. They took the idea to another level by introducing the idea of recreating popular songs: keep the beat, change the words, create a melody.

Artist had been freestyling over hot beats forever; but they weren’t remaking the songs. When 50 & his crew began to do this on their mixtapes they provided themselves with a crucial advantage: they made radio-friendly music, but maintained a street presence. That is the combination every A&R, music executive, manager, or artist in the business craves for. G-Unit mastered this.

In fact they had all the componant’s needed to be a dominant rap crew. The slick rhyming MC with crazy punchlines (Banks). The goon who provided “street cred” (Yayo was in jail when “Beg For Mercy” dropped). And the leader who had a superior business IQ, knew how to make records, and straight-up personified the “Hustler’s Ambition.” They had their catch phase that everybody knew (G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit). And best of all, they were from New York. We all know how much the industry loves to promote New York cats, and we know how much New York loves to hype New York cats.

With this foundation, G-Unit attempted to create an empire that would run the rap world & stand out in the hip-hop scene. This required regional expansion, and cross-over appeal.

Thus 50 scooped up a former Cash Money soldier in Young Buck to cover the South; he added Game, a Dre-protege straight from Compton. They brought on Oliva, the team’s R&B and female presence. They teamed with Marc Ecko for a G-Unit clothing line. They did collabos with R&B acts like Mary J. Blige & Avent, and Pop superstars like Justin Timberlake for commercial appeal.

Then in 2006 came the real power moves. Remember this cover:

It felt like the day G-Unit took over the world. It was a major movw. Not because the signings were Hip-Hop superstars, but it was like the top team in the league signing the best free agents in the game. They signed a legendary duo (Mobb Deep), one of NY’s most underrated groups (M.O.P.), brought Harlem back from church (Mase), and even got another West Coast cat (Spider Loc). It was G-Unit’s exercise in “strength in numbers.” These were the soldiers to aid the G-Unit takeover.

But it never happened. In fact, it failed miserably.

Even before this move, there was the Game/50 beef and fallout. And over time, most of these acts disappeared one by one (with the exception of Mobb Deep). Without making an impact once so ever. No albums, no singles, no nothing.

The team’s mainstays even felt the pressure. Banks dropped a brick with his sophomore album; Yayo hasn’t put out any albums since his first, but has got the group plenty of bad press with “alleged” incident with a 14 year old. The ugly situation with Young Buck put more of the group’s business out in the street and ended with Buck exiting the group.

And then, there was three.

And they could only push 102, 000 in their 1st week.

They couldn’t sell more in their 1st week then Weezy sold in his 4th week.

The irony is that 50 built the G-Unit brand based on his idea that they produced numbers. He pointed to hit singles, radio spins, albums sold, anything that could be counted.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.

The lack of a hit single, the poor album sales, and the overall lack of buzz about the album all point to common theme with G-Unit over the last year: people don’t really care.

At least, they don’t care about G-Unit the brand, G-Unit the Hip-Hop crew.

Michael Partis

RTNY

Ciya · 07-15-2008, 05:39 PM

word
g-unit is done

MrCatchaTemper · 07-15-2008, 05:42 PM

Thas aight. banks can get his shine now

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 05:46 PM

Man You act Like this is First Group In Hip Hop To Flopppp You Niggas are Stupid You Guysz Should Looking at Dipset They Flopped Hard 17k In there first week They had a Hit On 106 N Park "Splash" G-Unit Had No Hits N Styll Did 102k First Week N G-Unit Is One Of The Best In Hip Hop They Dont Care Bout Record Sales Anymore & I see them Having Fun & Rocking Crowds In Stadiums They Already Hit Plat So Many Tymes so wat they need to Prove If They Wanted To Hit Plat On T.O.S Interscope Would Told Them to Do Pop Songs But They Wanted to Hit The Str8's Cause That what there good at .......... I No Niggas dont like That ICE CREAM TRUCK MUSIC......for a Str8 Album to sell that much is Good when the last all str8 Group album to hit 100k Other Then B4M

G-Unit Allday

BornIntoThis · 07-15-2008, 05:47 PM

as a dominate figure in hi hop they done but they still the biggest group out. music wise they far from done Banks crused TOS and this year and got 5 tapes comin. Yayo idk about him but 50 workin hard on alot of shit especially BISD.

I Make It Snow · 07-15-2008, 05:50 PM

word, R.I.P G-Unit....2003-2008

MaliQ · 07-15-2008, 05:50 PM

This is a personal opinoin from a blogger so i dont really take it that serious, and some stuff in there just aren't facts...

Stay Fly · 07-15-2008, 05:52 PM

agree with Jrampage....g-unit aint done at all...just dumb niggaz hatin....yall know it aint like that....its funny that g-unit is done based on sales...smh.....then all other groups in hiphop would be dead...

BornIntoThis · 07-15-2008, 05:56 PM

they workin on 10 fuckin projects they can definitely come back i kinda think g-unit should do 1 more album and split. then have banks start a group cause he young and they need a fresh group to come up aswell.

and if g-unit is done they finished on a good foot wit TOS

Mr Wavez · 07-15-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queensbridge

Can It Be That It Was All So Simple Then…

All good things come to an end. G-Unit’s run of being rap’s most influential crew is over.

Let’s make it clear though. This NOT about 50 Cent’s personal career. This is about G-Unit the rap group; G-Unit the brand name.

But before they fell off, hate it or love it, G-Unit revolutionized the game.

“G-Unit nigga/that’s what’s up.” That was our first introduction to Lloyd Banks, Tony Yayo, and 50 Cent as “G-Unit” on 50’s mixtape “Guess Who’s Back.”

The key: it came on a mixtape, not hosted by a DJ.

50 Cent and his G-Unit crew were the first to successfully pull off their own mixtapes as a way of providing new music & generating new fans. They took the idea to another level by introducing the idea of recreating popular songs: keep the beat, change the words, create a melody.

Artist had been freestyling over hot beats forever; but they weren’t remaking the songs. When 50 & his crew began to do this on their mixtapes they provided themselves with a crucial advantage: they made radio-friendly music, but maintained a street presence. That is the combination every A&R, music executive, manager, or artist in the business craves for. G-Unit mastered this.

In fact they had all the componant’s needed to be a dominant rap crew. The slick rhyming MC with crazy punchlines (Banks). The goon who provided “street cred” (Yayo was in jail when “Beg For Mercy” dropped). And the leader who had a superior business IQ, knew how to make records, and straight-up personified the “Hustler’s Ambition.” They had their catch phase that everybody knew (G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit). And best of all, they were from New York. We all know how much the industry loves to promote New York cats, and we know how much New York loves to hype New York cats.

With this foundation, G-Unit attempted to create an empire that would run the rap world & stand out in the hip-hop scene. This required regional expansion, and cross-over appeal.

Thus 50 scooped up a former Cash Money soldier in Young Buck to cover the South; he added Game, a Dre-protege straight from Compton. They brought on Oliva, the team’s R&B and female presence. They teamed with Marc Ecko for a G-Unit clothing line. They did collabos with R&B acts like Mary J. Blige & Avent, and Pop superstars like Justin Timberlake for commercial appeal.

Then in 2006 came the real power moves. Remember this cover:

It felt like the day G-Unit took over the world. It was a major movw. Not because the signings were Hip-Hop superstars, but it was like the top team in the league signing the best free agents in the game. They signed a legendary duo (Mobb Deep), one of NY’s most underrated groups (M.O.P.), brought Harlem back from church (Mase), and even got another West Coast cat (Spider Loc). It was G-Unit’s exercise in “strength in numbers.” These were the soldiers to aid the G-Unit takeover.

But it never happened. In fact, it failed miserably.

Even before this move, there was the Game/50 beef and fallout. And over time, most of these acts disappeared one by one (with the exception of Mobb Deep). Without making an impact once so ever. No albums, no singles, no nothing.

The team’s mainstays even felt the pressure. Banks dropped a brick with his sophomore album; Yayo hasn’t put out any albums since his first, but has got the group plenty of bad press with “alleged” incident with a 14 year old. The ugly situation with Young Buck put more of the group’s business out in the street and ended with Buck exiting the group.

And then, there was three.

And they could only push 102, 000 in their 1st week.

They couldn’t sell more in their 1st week then Weezy sold in his 4th week.

The irony is that 50 built the G-Unit brand based on his idea that they produced numbers. He pointed to hit singles, radio spins, albums sold, anything that could be counted.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.

The lack of a hit single, the poor album sales, and the overall lack of buzz about the album all point to common theme with G-Unit over the last year: people don’t really care.

At least, they don’t care about G-Unit the brand, G-Unit the Hip-Hop crew.

Michael Partis

RTNY

wow..they took all da words out my mouth...lol if it wasnt for 50's love of talkin about sales...no one would be throwing it int their face right now. but honestly he deserves it..

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Make It Snow

G-Unit....2003-Present G-Unit Allday

Co-Sign Snow

IronCro · 07-15-2008, 06:03 PM

What happened to Hot Rod where is that nigga in all of this?

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiGgA_GoTs_WaVeZ

wow..they took all da words out my mouth...lol if it wasnt for 50's love of talkin about sales...no one would be throwing it int their face right now. but honestly he deserves it..

soooooo he said sales going down ....He mostly Bragged About Fat Joe Sales There weren't attackin Sales If They Wanted to They Would Make T.O.S LIke Curtis

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 06:05 PM

M.O.P & Hot Rod & Spider Loc & Mobb Deep & Fox Styll In G-Unit

King Bkjj11 · 07-15-2008, 06:06 PM

watch a new smash come out.....50 is back, banks is hot, yayo is nice...

u heard it first here

IronCro · 07-15-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ubba

M.O.P & Hot Rod & Spider Loc & Mobb Deep & Fox Styll In G-Unit

are they? Where have they been? I know Prodigy in the pen but whats the deal with everyone else?

IronCro · 07-15-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Bkjj11

watch a new smash come out.....50 is back, banks is hot, yayo is nice...

u heard it first here

Your a punk bitch according to hhboard

shade4tee5 · 07-15-2008, 06:11 PM

LMAOO!! oh man u guys be killin me. they come in at 2nd on the billboard chart and the g-unit empire has fallen? lolll fuck me. g-unit is hip-hop.
and its funny how every person that agrees with that story has a fuckin game sig or BWS shit or sumthin lmao fuckin clowns.

Mr Wavez · 07-15-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ubba

soooooo he said sales going down ....He mostly Bragged About Fat Joe Sales There weren't attackin Sales If They Wanted to They Would Make T.O.S LIke Curtis

what? i realy aint understand what u said..but all im sayin is that 50 has attacked and made fun of other rappers because of there low sales...and has used that time and time again...in fact thats the only thing he rides on. but anyways hes just gettin a taste of his own medicine...

IronCro · 07-15-2008, 06:13 PM

I am a huge Game fan and I bought TOS and they still flopped but you niggaz shouldn't give a fuck about numbers they aint cutting you checks Game or 50. TOS and LAX will still sound the same coming through your speakers whether they go platinum or plastic. Stans on here just bring up sales when convenient to their argument.

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronCro

are they? Where have they been? I know Prodigy in the pen but whats the deal with everyone else?

Nigga it doesnt mean G-Unit Dead Cuz They Ain'T Wen 50 Said G-Unit is Finish Thats when it There dead Cuz You acting like haterz like u nver seen some1 flopped in ur life Dipset Did worse then these niggas Dipset Had A Movement Just Like G-Unit Did

MS DIOR · 07-15-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoesaintshit

agree with Jrampage....g-unit aint done at all...just dumb niggaz hatin....yall know it aint like that....its funny that g-unit is done based on sales...smh.....then all other groups in hiphop would be dead...

co-sign........................

IronCro · 07-15-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ubba

Nigga it doesnt mean G-Unit Dead Cuz They Ain'T Wen 50 Said G-Unit is Finish Thats when it There dead Cuz You acting like haterz like u nver seen some1 flopped in ur life Dipset Did worse then these niggas Dipset Had A Movement Just Like G-Unit Did

I'm not hating I am just curious where they are and why they haven't contributed to material lately. I would love to hear an MOP album I'm not hating

MS DIOR · 07-15-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shade4tee5

LMAOO!! oh man u guys be killin me. they come in at 2nd on the billboard chart and the g-unit empire has fallen? lolll fuck me. g-unit is hip-hop.
and its funny how every person that agrees with that story has a fuckin game sig or BWS shit or sumthin lmao fuckin clowns.

lmao co-sign....................

13ubba · 07-15-2008, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiGgA_GoTs_WaVeZ

what? i realy aint understand what u said..but all im sayin is that 50 has attacked and made fun of other rappers because of there low sales...and has used that time and time again...in fact thats the only thing he rides on. but anyways hes just gettin a taste of his own medicine...

Which Rapper has He Made Fun Other Then Fat Joe He said All these Rappers are all One Hit Wonders and They Can Never Compare What They Did on there first Album & Only Rapper That Prove Him Wrong Was Shawty Lo who on D4L

07-15-2008, 05:34 PM	#1
Queensbridge 96 buildings 6 blocks Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 41st Side Posts: 2,313 Repped: 1,211 Repped 4,472 Times in 541 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	07/15/08 - The End of An Empire: The Rise & Fall of The G-Unit Reign 07/15/08 - The End of An Empire: The Rise & Fall of The G-Unit Reign Can It Be That It Was All So Simple Then… All good things come to an end. G-Unit’s run of being rap’s most influential crew is over. Let’s make it clear though. This NOT about 50 Cent’s personal career. This is about G-Unit the rap group; G-Unit the brand name. But before they fell off, hate it or love it, G-Unit revolutionized the game. “G-Unit nigga/that’s what’s up.” That was our first introduction to Lloyd Banks, Tony Yayo, and 50 Cent as “G-Unit” on 50’s mixtape “Guess Who’s Back.” The key: it came on a mixtape, not hosted by a DJ. 50 Cent and his G-Unit crew were the first to successfully pull off their own mixtapes as a way of providing new music & generating new fans. They took the idea to another level by introducing the idea of recreating popular songs: keep the beat, change the words, create a melody. Artist had been freestyling over hot beats forever; but they weren’t remaking the songs. When 50 & his crew began to do this on their mixtapes they provided themselves with a crucial advantage: they made radio-friendly music, but maintained a street presence. That is the combination every A&R, music executive, manager, or artist in the business craves for. G-Unit mastered this. In fact they had all the componant’s needed to be a dominant rap crew. The slick rhyming MC with crazy punchlines (Banks). The goon who provided “street cred” (Yayo was in jail when “Beg For Mercy” dropped). And the leader who had a superior business IQ, knew how to make records, and straight-up personified the “Hustler’s Ambition.” They had their catch phase that everybody knew (G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Unit). And best of all, they were from New York. We all know how much the industry loves to promote New York cats, and we know how much New York loves to hype New York cats. With this foundation, G-Unit attempted to create an empire that would run the rap world & stand out in the hip-hop scene. This required regional expansion, and cross-over appeal. Thus 50 scooped up a former Cash Money soldier in Young Buck to cover the South; he added Game, a Dre-protege straight from Compton. They brought on Oliva, the team’s R&B and female presence. They teamed with Marc Ecko for a G-Unit clothing line. They did collabos with R&B acts like Mary J. Blige & Avent, and Pop superstars like Justin Timberlake for commercial appeal. Then in 2006 came the real power moves. Remember this cover: It felt like the day G-Unit took over the world. It was a major movw. Not because the signings were Hip-Hop superstars, but it was like the top team in the league signing the best free agents in the game. They signed a legendary duo (Mobb Deep), one of NY’s most underrated groups (M.O.P.), brought Harlem back from church (Mase), and even got another West Coast cat (Spider Loc). It was G-Unit’s exercise in “strength in numbers.” These were the soldiers to aid the G-Unit takeover. But it never happened. In fact, it failed miserably. Even before this move, there was the Game/50 beef and fallout. And over time, most of these acts disappeared one by one (with the exception of Mobb Deep). Without making an impact once so ever. No albums, no singles, no nothing. The team’s mainstays even felt the pressure. Banks dropped a brick with his sophomore album; Yayo hasn’t put out any albums since his first, but has got the group plenty of bad press with “alleged” incident with a 14 year old. The ugly situation with Young Buck put more of the group’s business out in the street and ended with Buck exiting the group. And then, there was three. And they could only push 102, 000 in their 1st week. They couldn’t sell more in their 1st week then Weezy sold in his 4th week. The irony is that 50 built the G-Unit brand based on his idea that they produced numbers. He pointed to hit singles, radio spins, albums sold, anything that could be counted. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t. The lack of a hit single, the poor album sales, and the overall lack of buzz about the album all point to common theme with G-Unit over the last year: people don’t really care. At least, they don’t care about G-Unit the brand, G-Unit the Hip-Hop crew. Michael Partis RTNY __________________ Don't Try To Find A Job Son It's All About Robbin

07-15-2008, 05:39 PM	#2
Ciya Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Where Benz,BMW,Porsche..... from/Bremen City Posts: 7,155 Repped: 2,387 Repped 1,292 Times in 317 Posts Neg Reps: 7 Neg Repped at 37 Times in 28 Posts	word g-unit is done __________________ A Girl Ask Me For A Ring And I Put One Around Her Whole Eye - Big L

07-15-2008, 05:47 PM	#5
BornIntoThis Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Originally From Brooklyn Posts: 3,024 Repped: 366 Repped 963 Times in 321 Posts Neg Reps: 82 Neg Repped at 118 Times in 80 Posts	as a dominate figure in hi hop they done but they still the biggest group out. music wise they far from done Banks crused TOS and this year and got 5 tapes comin. Yayo idk about him but 50 workin hard on alot of shit especially BISD. __________________

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MaliQ 08[Detox-L.A.X.-BISD]08 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ??? Posts: 4,514 Repped: 342 Repped 1,822 Times in 177 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 2 Posts	This is a personal opinoin from a blogger so i dont really take it that serious, and some stuff in there just aren't facts... __________________ Sunny days wouldn't be special, if it wasn't for rain... Joy wouldn't feel so good, if it wasn't for pain... Death gotta be easy, 'cause life is hard... It'll leave you physically, mentally, and emotionally scarred. - 50 Cent

07-15-2008, 05:56 PM	#9
BornIntoThis Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Originally From Brooklyn Posts: 3,024 Repped: 366 Repped 963 Times in 321 Posts Neg Reps: 82 Neg Repped at 118 Times in 80 Posts	they workin on 10 fuckin projects they can definitely come back i kinda think g-unit should do 1 more album and split. then have banks start a group cause he young and they need a fresh group to come up aswell. and if g-unit is done they finished on a good foot wit TOS __________________

07-15-2008, 05:42 PM	#3
MrCatchaTemper MrCalmNCollective Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: THa 5-1-9 Posts: 1,932 Repped: 350 Repped 112 Times in 52 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 9 Times in 9 Posts	Thas aight. banks can get his shine now

07-15-2008, 05:46 PM	#4
13ubba Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: canada Posts: 3,403 Repped: 468 Repped 1,503 Times in 357 Posts Neg Reps: 442 Neg Repped at 159 Times in 114 Posts	Man You act Like this is First Group In Hip Hop To Flopppp You Niggas are Stupid You Guysz Should Looking at Dipset They Flopped Hard 17k In there first week They had a Hit On 106 N Park "Splash" G-Unit Had No Hits N Styll Did 102k First Week N G-Unit Is One Of The Best In Hip Hop They Dont Care Bout Record Sales Anymore & I see them Having Fun & Rocking Crowds In Stadiums They Already Hit Plat So Many Tymes so wat they need to Prove If They Wanted To Hit Plat On T.O.S Interscope Would Told Them to Do Pop Songs But They Wanted to Hit The Str8's Cause That what there good at .......... I No Niggas dont like That ICE CREAM TRUCK MUSIC......for a Str8 Album to sell that much is Good when the last all str8 Group album to hit 100k Other Then B4M G-Unit Allday

07-15-2008, 05:50 PM	#6
I Make It Snow Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 821 Repped: 334 Repped 176 Times in 23 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	word, R.I.P G-Unit....2003-2008

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Stay Fly Livin Life! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 9,739 Repped: 5,692 Repped 1,032 Times in 341 Posts Neg Reps: 891 Neg Repped at 210 Times in 164 Posts	agree with Jrampage....g-unit aint done at all...just dumb niggaz hatin....yall know it aint like that....its funny that g-unit is done based on sales...smh.....then all other groups in hiphop would be dead...

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IronCro Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,817 Repped: 1,531 Repped 283 Times in 93 Posts Neg Reps: 21 Neg Repped at 33 Times in 24 Posts	What happened to Hot Rod where is that nigga in all of this?

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13ubba Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: canada Posts: 3,403 Repped: 468 Repped 1,503 Times in 357 Posts Neg Reps: 442 Neg Repped at 159 Times in 114 Posts	M.O.P & Hot Rod & Spider Loc & Mobb Deep & Fox Styll In G-Unit

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King Bkjj11 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 52 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	watch a new smash come out.....50 is back, banks is hot, yayo is nice... u heard it first here __________________ Cam'ron come here

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shade4tee5 The Hype Is Real! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,266 Repped: 308 Repped 105 Times in 40 Posts Neg Reps: 292 Neg Repped at 31 Times in 26 Posts	LMAOO!! oh man u guys be killin me. they come in at 2nd on the billboard chart and the g-unit empire has fallen? lolll fuck me. g-unit is hip-hop. and its funny how every person that agrees with that story has a fuckin game sig or BWS shit or sumthin lmao fuckin clowns. __________________ Y'all forgot who helped 50 Cent pop? I ain't spent my own money since Eminem dropped. - Dr. Dre "yeah i am gay and i like Two men doing 69" - Raskae

07-15-2008, 06:13 PM	#20
IronCro Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,817 Repped: 1,531 Repped 283 Times in 93 Posts Neg Reps: 21 Neg Repped at 33 Times in 24 Posts	I am a huge Game fan and I bought TOS and they still flopped but you niggaz shouldn't give a fuck about numbers they aint cutting you checks Game or 50. TOS and LAX will still sound the same coming through your speakers whether they go platinum or plastic. Stans on here just bring up sales when convenient to their argument.

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