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Another classic read from my boy Evildead....it's becoming very interesting....
"WARNING!!…ANOTHER CLASSIC MUST SEE LONG ASS EVIL THREAD!!! While most people went to see Will Smith’s Hancock over the July 4th Holiday weekend...Evil caught that new Harrison Ford flick ‘Indiana Jones and the search for T.O.S.’... word on the street…like the Public Enemy classic album ..It took a nation of disgruntled record execs to hold G-unit back…The Evildead T.O.S. report part 2 has leaked… -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Soon after Evil dropped part one of T.O.S. report.. ... The rumors started dropping about conspiracy, industry sabotage, and shipment shortages courtesy of the top level folks in the industry. Throw in an alien or two and this could be an episode of X-files... Fact or Fiction? . You decide….Evil did a little research and found T.O.S. in 5 of 7 strores…bottom line..G-units’ T.O.S. scanned 102,000..and the world is talking the results..just not in the same language..Evil is entertained…. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever since T.O.S. dropped…so many haters in the forums and media outlets came out to say ‘hello’ to Fif.. that if he renamed his site to ‘ThisisMaino.com’..nobody would even notice… ....And the Winner of the Maino ‘Hi Hater’ T.O.S award……. SOHH.com (Also known as Some Ol' Haters Hatin’)- The hip hop news site (with one of Evil's favorite hip hop forums) Clearly has been going at Fif for the last couple of years through the sites’ news, pulse report, and blogs. One blogger (SOHH New York) admitted to actually ‘praying’ for 50 Cent’s destruction. So after the soundscan numbers were released… it was no surprise that SOHH dropped not one..not two..but three T.O.S. hate related articles with headlines like ‘T.O.S. flops on site’ and ‘G-unit goes to the morgue’…that would even make longtime 50 foes..Dave Mays and Benzino proud… --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now based on the first week…multiple music media outlets and blogs jumped out the window and labeled T.O.S. as an overwhelming flop..some calling G-unit to disband permanently as a group..but do the numbers add up to the END OF THE G-UNIT? ....crunch the numbers...and decide for yourself Where does T.O.S. stand among the top 10 other hip hop groups released in the last TWO years 1.UGK- 156,000 2. Bone Thugs- 116,000 3. G-unit-102,000 4. U.S.D.A- 93,000 5. N.E.R.D- 81,000 6. Three six Mafia-71000 7. Wu-Tang Clan-67,000 8. The Roots-54,000 9. Eightball & MJG-45,000 10.Crime Mob-22,000 Does this mean that every group below G-units first weeks' sales must end it's career immediately? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NATIONAL DEFICIT…. How bad did the new album sell compared to the last G-unit record... T.O.S. vs. Beg for Mercy Beg for Mercy…good airplay, average spins..top 15 Billboard single..360,000 first week T.O.S…little airplay, below average spins..didn’t chart in the top 50 Billboard..102,000 first week First week deficit..almost 260K…50 Cent’s Curtis had almost 450K…but compare to Usher..who had the #1 single in the country this year..but had a deficit of 600,000!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE EVIL FINAL T.O.S. Analysis…. I won’t even front…had the Unit gone all ringtone-industry friendly on this one and the album turned out to be garbage..Evil would have been one of the first out here saying that G-unit’s better times were behind them. But a funny thing happened...with little fanfare and promotion…The Unit f*cked around a dropped a heat rock. Where do they go from here?… THE PARTY AIN’T OVER….Beyond T.O.S. 1.TOUR TOUR TOUR!! We all saw the concert footage from Nokia and Altantic City (Jersey stand up)..Take that sh*t on the road…in fact drop a Live DVD..if they finish another successful road trip for this material..T.O.S. might end up doing better #’s than a lot of people might believe. 2. Keep dropping the tapes..G-unit is in a mixtape zone that I haven’t seen from a group in a long time..The Drama tape is still on..Banks (who is ‘on fire’ right now) announced the 5 set series.and you know Fif got at least one dropping in support ‘Destruct’ 3. THISIS50 As it turns out..not many can dispute that Thisis50.com jumped up to big boy status early becoming one of the leading go to hip hop sites on the net. …You can already see other ‘established’ sites changing their format to mirror it’s success..but the fact is..it’s not getting any smaller..and by the time 50 drops ‘Destruct’..it’s safe to say that it’s going to be a problem HIP HOP IS EVILDEAD............. " Evildead of thisis50.com Well folks, Evil has spoken! But please lemme know what you think....
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good read... just sounds like a die hard Unit fan trying to save face though lol
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g-unit is still good i dont care wat people say
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If anyone seriously hates 50, or any rapper that is, outside of a forum needs a life.
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yeah album was hot just the mainstream ain't acceptin' them for some reason - especially out here in UK.. bastards!
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i just dont think he is as bad as everybody thinks he is
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Some real talk in this
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banks droppin 5 mixtapes??? hell yeaaaaaaaaaaa
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He makes a good point on those group numbers. Groups aint doin fuck all.
*edit* where's BDUB at????? bone thugs didnt do much more....should bone thugs disband?? fuck nahhhhh |
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i kno thats why i dont care when people say g-unit flopped
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T.O.S - One Of The Best Album Of 08....
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hell yea way betta then wayne album
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i dont care da unit still puttin out fire shit was hott
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Ha, ha, ha, ha – if 50 was confused about Wayne’s 1 mill in a week he must be in state of dementia regarding his 102,000 unit sold in 1 week. To add insult to injury Wayne soundly beat those dudes again this and he has been out 4 weeks. That is a flat out embarrassment for G-Unit.
Now everyone reading this – you knew that I was going to drop a comment on this blog. The truth of the matter is that to me numbers don’t mean shit. I said it for years while 50 was hitting it soundscan out of the park and laughing at cats who’s numbers were better than his current102 but not much better. I have always thought that only idiots measure the quality of music by the number of unit sold. However if you are a G-Unit fan you are probably an idiot so it is understandable. However 50’s very public demise may mean that hip hop does have a chance to live. It also may mean that artists will think twice before trying to diss and so call ether people’s career. The bottom line is to just make the music and good music at that. I will forever say that the Young Buck situation is what put the final nail in G-Unit. See if a person is so-called ethered out of the game because of another artist’s superior lyrical word play then people will crown the winner and show the loser the door. This is all within the culture of the art. However, when you take a protégé and a person you called a little brother and you do the dirty back stabbing underhanded foul bitch nigga shit 50 did to Young Buck then that kind of act migrates out of the art and land of hip hop fantasy and in to real life. Those were real life issues buck was dealing with and for 50 to expose those issues to world by secretly recording Buck’s phone call went beyond the Hip Hop game. For 50 to turn on a person who was humble, truthful about his circumstances and seeking help from 50 was so foul that it made people take off their Hip Hop hat and put on their real life hat and judge 50 as a man and a human being not as the mystical entertainer and artist that he is. Now once they judged him as a man they concluded that this cat is not someone that they simply could not support. The punishment did not fit the crime and I think this particularly reigned true with the southern hip hop buying public. If you look all around the internet people are kicking 50. I mean this is a new group of people too. This collection of 50 detractors does incorporate 50’s enemies fan base but there is also a new group of 50 cent adversaries. I think this group of people is people who were disgusted by his action with young Buck. Further I think he is also getting a backlash from how he is handling this situation with his son and his mother. This brother needs the best PR person in the business or it’s a rap for him. 102, 000 and you had and have all of the Black and Latino entertainment media in your back pocket (Hot 97, XXLmag.com, mediatakeout.com and others). I mean “Funk Mastered-homosexuality Flex” is so ethically corrupt that he refuses to play anything Young Buck puts out in the future or any of his past works. Do you know what his reason is? He said that he will not play Buck’s music because he wasn’t loyal to 50. Now is that not crazy or what. Disobedience to 50 bans you for life on the “Funk Mastered-Homosexuality Flex” show. And where are the administrators at HOT 97. How can they let an employee make a public statement like that? If I was Buck I would hire a lawyer and see if there was room for a civil law suit against hot 97. Anyway, with all of the Black entertainment and Hip Hop media (with the exception of Sohh) on 50’s short and “curlies” and having his own propaganda website to push his bullshit he was only able to push a measly 102 out. This kid is on a major too. That is a huge flop and there is no other way to spin it. However, I think the Buck situation is what killed him. Buck made the right move by leaving g-Unit even with tape being leaked. If 50 can barely break 100 what in the hell would Buck do on that garbage label, 40 maybe 50. The other thing is that Buck sounds so much better not that he is not with G-Unit. All of his G-Unit diss songs have been fire. I can see he switch flow to sound a little Pac-ish but that is cool because it work really well on him. Now as for 50, he has not made good music in a very long time. G-Unit records have not made good music in a long time. And 50 is smoking crack if he thinks BISD will sell a million in a week. It will not sell a million, period. This kid is in classic denial. He doesn’t and can’t believe that it is over. Innerscope will be more than happy to show him the door after he fulfills his contractual obligations with them. Further the other majors will not be beating down his door for his services, either. Consider this: 5 out of G-Unit last 6 albums have been commercial flops (Tony Yayo, Mobb Deep, Lloyd Banks, Young Buck and now G-Unit the Group with their latest effort, TOS). Tony Yayo is up next to drop and given that he is the worst rapper in the world he is bound to flop too which will make it 6 flops out of 7 albums. If you include Lil crappy - I mean lil Scrappy and Freeway who 50 executive produced that would be 7 out of the last 8 albums. Now GRODT was amazing but that was a DR. Dre produced joint. Everything Dre produces is amazing. So although the “Assacre” sold big the content and quality of that joint was awful. Curtis was pure trash and barely went plat. Further their roster has withered away. Olivia was dropped from the G-Unit label. MOP was dropped from the label. Hot Rod has a homo name and he sucks ass as a rapper – so he is on the shelf. Spida Loc is horrific as a rapper so he is on the shelf. Mobb Deep is done. I also should remind you that 50 in a head to head soundscan showdown with Kanye West 50 was flat out roasted by Kanye. Once the dust was all settled Kanye West sold more that 2 million more albums than 50 cents. And today’s new commercial king Lil Wayne sold 10 times more in his first week then G-Unit did. So G-Unit as a record label company has nothing to offer in terms of talent and soon 50 will be 35 years of age at the time some one signs him. Now with this young fickle hip hop buy public 35 years of age will make him look as old as the Ancient Egyptian Sphinx to these kids but unlike the Sphinx the interest in this old man telling hood tales about being shot 9 times and making cornball ice cream candy songs like Amusement Park, Candy Shop and lil bit will fall on def ears of the hip hop music buying public. He is also a high maintenance dude with an addiction to drama that everyone will be well aware of. I mean the mother of 50’s son has labeled him as an obsessed arsonist who is a terrible father. She has even taken a restraining order out against him. He in return has countered her actions by bringing a defamation of character suit against her. He also got into a "spat" with 106 and Park’s host, Rosci because she said that his album, Curtis was garbage (which it was). He returned her most accurate assessment of his album with a comment saying “I know 4 guys who slept with her." What a cornball. All the bullshit beefs he started with other artists. So people are not going be so will to take on a The Dennis Rodman of the hip hop industry as fast some of you think. I personally enjoy all of this difficultly of this particular Black man (I use the term loosely). I like 50 hitting hard times and it is not because this buffoon has started beef with every rapper in the game (Nas, Fat Joe, Game, Young Buck, Retried ass Master P, TI, Weezy, Jadakiss, Cameron, Ja Rule, Diddy, Rosci- Bet 106 and Park host, Shyne (even as Shyne is behind bars), Jay Z and Wu Tang clan) for the purpose of selling Cds is not what troubles me most about this buffoon. What troubles me the most is his betrayal of our people. First he said “fuck the hood. I am not making music for the hood.” Which was coding for saying I am making music for white people only and fuck what you niggas think of me? But waay more than that – what trouble me most about this traitor was his siding with a man who’s paralysis and apathy killed Black people by the dozens. I remind you that 50 cents is the same man who in the immediate aftermath (no pun) of our people drowning in the hot, polluted, shitty, pissy, corpse filled pond of the spillage of Katrina and our elderly grandparents being left for dead on roof tops of homes in New Orleans by George Bush and the governments at all levels, this Uncle Tom 50 cent said to the associated press that he thought that President Bush did all he could do for Black people and scolded Kanye West and others for being critical of the president. I can’t stand this asshole and I am personally embarrassed that he is from New York but I di welcome his long over do public demise out of the game. Now for my detractors – first of all fuck you. I write as long as I want to. And yeah I do know everything about 50 because I study people who I see as a threat to our people or have kicked us when we were down and 50 falls in to both categories. This will be my one and only post of the day unless someone comes on here and attack me and do it so well that I feel need to respond. Other than that, peace to the real. |
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^^^^^^^^
tell me thas from a article....
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lol im mad how u spend a good minute writin all this shit
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GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DAMN
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Propz. T.O.S was good, and I feel like 50 can still do well on his next album
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damn Banks droppin a series in one year
50 most likely gonna drop one too. and since hes in the zone music wise he could make his first solo series.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 50 still the biggest selling rapper of this millenium.. GRODT= 12 MILL MASSACRE=10MILL CURTIS=3 MILL GRODT- OST= 3 MILL thats nearly 30 mill by himself... tell me which rapper has sold 30 mill this millenium.... lmfaooooo u lost.... massacre quality was wack ? well that's your biased opinion since its evident u a g unit hater.... 10 mill ppl copped that album just as 3 mill copped 50's "dud"... B4M did 350k ww 1st week wit a top 15 single, T.O.S. did 102k w/out a poppin single..... tell me wat group can do that.... UGK sold 150k becuz they had a bangin single and Bone thugz was 2 yrs ago..... no other group today can outsell the unit.... g unit as a group never sold a lot so ur entire essay is irrelevant, and it took kanye's best album to outsell 50's worst... look at kanye's portfolio, look at 50's kanye done barely 10 mill worldwide in his career, 50 done 30 mill and kanye did not outsell 50 by 2 mill u lyin fuck, it's over curtis by 500k so u lost there as well... lmfaoooooooooo talk to me when any of ur pathetic choice of artists can say they sold 700k 1st week on a "dud".....
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its da mudafuckin UNIT bitches!!!
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at Obey King 50 reading all of that shit....you know you a stan when you read that whole fucking essay...than respond to it |
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