|
|
||||||
| Hip Hop Talk Post Rumors and Hip Hop related info here(not so much news). album sales, soundscan charts, tracklists etc
|
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|
#1 |
|
The "B-Boy" Circa '82-'88
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: In A Weed Spot!!!
Posts: 5,757
Repped: 1,173
Repped 11,539 Times in 1,360 Posts
Neg Reps: 148
Neg Repped at 107 Times in 98 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
In the end, it was Cook County prosecutors' failure to call the woman at the center of R. Kelly's trial on child pornography charges that cost them the case. They had alleged that the R&B star knew she was only 13 years old when he videotaped himself engaging in sex with her. But on Thursday, just before the jury began deliberating, the prosecutors explained they did not call the female — who is now 23-years old — mainly because they didn't want to expose her to unnecessary stress.
But her silence during the trial was the problem. After the jurors announced that R. Kelly was innocent of all 14 child pornography charges, five of them spoke to reporters in the Cook County courtroom and said it was that very absence of testimony from the woman, or even her parents, that significantly swayed their decision. A middle-aged black man dressed in a stripped blue polo shirt, said he had been convinced by the evidence that it was indeed R. Kelly who appeared in the 27-minute sex video. In fact, the man said, he was prepared to cast a guilty vote. But he reversed course, he said, because "I wasn't sure it was [the female] — based on what I had before me." Shortly after the investigation began in earnest in 2002, the woman denied she was in the tape. After Kelly's acquittal, Cook County State's Attorney Richard A. Devine defended up his team's decision not to call the alleged victim, saying, "We weren't going to open new wounds." He added, "Child pornography can be extremely difficult to prove — especially because the victims may not consider themselves to be victims. But we, as a community, have to stand up for them even if they fail to come forward and state what the evidence makes clear." At first, the jury deliberations seemed indecisive. After jurors began on Thursday afternoon, they cast votes about once an hour. First, they reached a vote of nine not guilty, three guilty. Then, it shifted to ten not guilty, two guilty. At one point, the breakdown shifted to seven not guilty, five guilty. This morning, jurors sent several notes: They needed an easel with flip-board to visualize their arguments. They wanted a second VCR to review evidence more closely. "I've seen the video too many times — the first time was too many," said the lone female juror who agreed to be interviewed after the trial. One key piece of evidence prosecutors tried to use was an identifying mole they said appeared on the lower back of the man in the video which they said identified him as R. Kelly — evidence disputed by the defense.. One witness dismissed the mole as "video noise." And one juror said: "The mole played more of a role for the press. It never came up in deliberations." Jurors said they discounted testimony from several of the alleged victim's family members, who were among 14 witnesses who identified her as the female in the tape. But not all relatives identified her as such, even declining outright to do so. That certainly sowed doubt in the jury's mind along with the absence from the stand of the alleged victim and her parents. Shortly before noon on Friday, the jurors sent Judge Vincent M. Gaughan a note asking if they could deliberate into early evening, rather than ending about 5 p.m., perhaps to avoid working into Saturday. Then, one juror, a 30-something black man, asked to be excused saying a cousin had died Monday, his aunt and uncle had been hospitalized with pneumonia-related complications and his niece been diagnosed with cancer. Also, he said, "my mom is freaking out." The judge swiftly denied the man's request to be excused, dismissed the three alternates and snapped, "We've reached the point of no return." He sent the jurors back to deliberation. Finally, after a total of about seven hours, jurors reached a unanimous not guilty vote. At 2:01p.m., a sheriff's deputy walked from the judge's chambers and commanded the court, "All Rise." Kelly, dressed in a dark blue suit, white shirt and shimmering yellow tie, took a deep breath. He bowed his head, with freshly-tightened cornrows, and looked at the ground. There was silence in the courtroom. He reached for the hands of his two defense attorneys. He looked straight ahead. At 2:04p.m., the judge began reading off each count. Finally, Kelly looked to the stand. "Not guilty," the judge's assistant began, reading each count. Kelly looked down, closed his eyes. "Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus," he whispered to his defense attorneys. And suddenly, the self-described Pied Pier wept. After the verdict was read, Kelly stood up, tears flowing down his cheeks. He hugged his attorneys. Supporters who'd been here for much of the trial walked up and hugged him, too. Five flights below, outside the courthouse, a throng of assembled spectators erupted in euphoria. Minutes later, the man known as The R. strutted out the courthouse, flanked by his beefy bodyguards and men who appeared to be his music label representatives. A fan, Lisa Jones, 33, screamed, "Alright, he's innocent," as she clutched one of the five children she'd brought to see the spectacle. Just then, her 16-year-old daughter, Jasmine Emery, smiled as she walked away from the crowd. "I just wish they leave the Kells alone," she said. Source:
__________________
"REP" or "No PROPS" DONT PUT FOOD ON MY TABLE, FUCK 'EM!!!!!! SO "REP" If U WANT, IDGAF!!! DiGiJeff (12-17-2008), J-Banks Thanked Post HAPPY BIRTHDAY One_Yaself_Hater !!!-HH411: "instead of hittin 'no props' button i'll just neg ya". - Gods Plan
|
|
|
|
| The Following 4 Users Repped to One_Yaself_Hater For This Useful Post: | Georgiapower912 (06-15-2008), perryt26 (06-14-2008), ratty_tattat (06-16-2008), YoungGeeza (06-14-2008) |
|
|
#2 |
|
NEW B
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NEW B
Posts: 1,961
Repped: 600
Repped 184 Times in 79 Posts
Neg Reps: 0
Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
"said he had been convinced by the evidence that it was indeed R. Kelly who appeared in the 27-minute sex video. In fact, the man said, he was prepared to cast a guilty vote.But he reversed course, he said, because "I wasn't sure it was [the female] — based on what I had before me."
so r.kelly is still a child molester there just not sure what girl it was
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,613
Repped: 772
Repped 141 Times in 30 Posts
Neg Reps: 1
Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
fucking pedo cunt
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Too Ill For Radio
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Windy City
Posts: 2,929
Repped: 825
Repped 461 Times in 185 Posts
Neg Reps: 1
Neg Repped at 8 Times in 8 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
hmmm..........not guilty hater how ya feel
__________________
![]() R.O.B. |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Tha Babyface Gangsta
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 4,552
Repped: 679
Repped 886 Times in 196 Posts
Neg Reps: 50
Neg Repped at 14 Times in 9 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
who got that tape i never seen it
__________________
Living Revolutionary, Nothing Less Than Legendary, Gangsta Shit Hereditary, Got It From My Dad, Flow Colder Than February, With Extraordinary Swag.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Strength & Honor
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 10,000
Repped: 4,022
Repped 2,377 Times in 237 Posts
Neg Reps: 8
Neg Repped at 25 Times in 15 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
dude is a rat, no doubt
nobody gets away with shit like that dunno what happened, but I can tell you Kells did something a real honorable man would never do |
|
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Slaughterhouse.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Location
Posts: 102
Repped: 6
Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts
Neg Reps: 0
Neg Repped at 2 Times in 1 Post
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
R Kelly Pissed On Me Too :(::(:((::(
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 | |
|
Too Ill For Radio
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Windy City
Posts: 2,929
Repped: 825
Repped 461 Times in 185 Posts
Neg Reps: 1
Neg Repped at 8 Times in 8 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quote:
try again
__________________
![]() R.O.B. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 | |
|
12 Play Fourth Quarter
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: BRONX NYC
Posts: 2,224
Repped: 696
Repped 2,051 Times in 254 Posts
Neg Reps: 6
Neg Repped at 6 Times in 5 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quote:
In ti"s situation maybe there was no fucking plea deal here a jury acquitted of all charges
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,327
Repped: 98
Repped 139 Times in 21 Posts
Neg Reps: 1
Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Im glad to see some black folks using there money like white people..... save it so when your fucked you can get a good lawyer and get off (diamonds will only take you so far)..... OJ, Michael Jackson and now R. Kelly..... get a good expensive lawyer and anythings possible, in the court its not a black white thing (ok lots of times it is but its always a green thing, enough money and the right lawyer can beat any case)
the real golden rule is he who has the gold makes the rules |
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The Massacre, GUnit World
Posts: 1,845
Repped: 554
Repped 190 Times in 34 Posts
Neg Reps: 0
Neg Repped at 4 Times in 4 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() |
[quote=One_Yaself_Hater;3363309]
Shortly before noon on Friday, the jurors sent Judge Vincent M. Gaughan a note asking if they could deliberate into early evening, rather than ending about 5 p.m., perhaps to avoid working into Saturday. Then, one juror, a 30-something black man, asked to be excused saying a cousin had died Monday, his aunt and uncle had been hospitalized with pneumonia-related complications and his niece been diagnosed with cancer. Also, he said, "my mom is freaking out." The judge swiftly denied the man's request to be excused, dismissed the three alternates and snapped, "We've reached the point of no return." He sent the jurors back to deliberation. Finally, after a total of about seven hours, jurors reached a unanimous not guilty vote Source: [url] ^^^^^ this dude is funny |
|
|
|
|
|
#12 |
|
BISD November 23rd
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,194
Repped: 639
Repped 2,457 Times in 353 Posts
Neg Reps: 78
Neg Repped at 123 Times in 85 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Everyone knows dude is a child molestor. He married Aliyah or however you spell it, she was like 15. He has had many complaints about shit, its him on the tape, and I heard on the news that althought they cant prove anything, the family of the girl has been on a vacation to Europe, cars etc, all way beyond there financial means, so like R Kelly didnt pay them to shut up? It aint like she was raped, she was a ho who fucked him, so its not like hush money for a rape, he is a star, jurors are star struck, OJ, MJ, R Kelly. He has the money to pay them off, so he got off, simple as that. But nobody cares, soon as trapped in the closet 100025 comes out, people will still run to the stores to buy it like this never happened. Thats the world we live in, what can you do?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Naptown throw it up!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 3Indianapolis1Indiana7
Posts: 1,155
Repped: 61
Repped 131 Times in 25 Posts
Neg Reps: 1
Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
lol You can get off anything If you snitch bro. I dont think he snitched I think what happened is exactly what happened. The court wont find him guilty unless they know for sure she the girl in the video. Stupid rules but it happens.
__________________
![]() Rims high as a midget, it switch give it the dope lean, Chop shop chevy Indianapolis Colt theme - PLK |
|
|
|
|
|
#14 |
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee
Posts: 470
Repped: 143
Repped 53 Times in 22 Posts
Neg Reps: 3
Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
who is he snitchin on? NOBODY!!!!!!! getting off for snitchin in this case is not possible at all ever, period.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#15 |
|
Banned
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: DA CHAT SEXHUN THRONE MAFUCCA.. DEEBO WUDDUP??
Posts: 20,134
Repped: 1,328
Repped 2,389 Times in 867 Posts
Neg Reps: 267
Neg Repped at 488 Times in 326 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#16 |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,598
Repped: 608
Repped 677 Times in 403 Posts
Neg Reps: 505
Neg Repped at 224 Times in 166 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
kells got something like 50mil. he aint goin to jail over fuckin some young chick a decade ago
|
|
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
Reppin' 514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 514 - MTL - 514
Posts: 14,944
Repped: 664
Repped 1,321 Times in 537 Posts
Neg Reps: 42
Neg Repped at 76 Times in 61 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
haha.....that pedophile paid the judge and the jury.....
__________________
![]() G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath!! "Shout out to all the people in Montreal - Montreal is real hood. Real gangsta out there." - Juelz Santana |
|
|
|
![]() |
Lower Navigation
|
||||||
|
||||||
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|