WTF 04/28/08 - 50 on Fat Joe and using beef to sell records

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 01:27 PM

AllHipHop.com: I’m asking a question. That being said, do you feel the beef overshadows the fact that all of you are dropping excellent music?

50 Cent: No, it doesn’t. It’s obvious that that doesn’t actually sell records. It didn’t sell Fat Joe’s record, right? It did nothing for his actual record sales because if the audience hasn’t actually bought into you as an actual artist, I don’t give a f**k how hot you’re song is, s**t ain’t going nowhere. And he’s had hit records, he’s had “Lean Back”, and the record he just put out wasn’t terrible, it wasn’t good because he was on it. If they had just J. Holiday and a new artist on that it would have sold a ton of ringtones but because it was him and the public already made a decision. The major record companies have decided he’s not a good investment anymore, that’s why he’s forced to produce the material on his own.

Check this out, first of all there’s no such thing as an independent deal where you’re getting seven dollars a disc or I would be going somewhere not within my contractual agreements. I would sign an artist to that deal and take him everywhere I got until he’s hot and make a lot of money off him. You’re not going to get seven dollars a disc that’s the first lie that they tell.

Now if you’re taking into consideration that video cost $200,000 to shoot for him and J. Holiday, then you take into account that they just shot a second music video—that was a mistake, his album’s already at 3,000 copies a week, it’s , it’s over. It’s ain’t goin’ to increase in sales. The last record that I seen from a Hip-Hop perspective increase in sales, that had a rapper on it be dead...it was the Soulja [Slim] record with Juvie, “Slow Motion.” He just spent an additional $200,000 on the next video.

Now if you say the promo tour was about $200,000 for them to move around expenses for you to do you the marketing and radio, and everything’s good and you say the cost of your posterboards and print advertisement and small campaign I seen he had something going on with he obviously had to pay some money for them to run the banners that’s another $200,000, that put you at $800,000. Then just the basic expenses should put you at a full million dollars.

Let’s say his lie is true, give him the benefit of the doubt and say we’re gonna give him seven dollars a disc you’re at 79,000 records right now and you just sold 3,000 records this week even if you were at 100,000 [sold] you would be $300,000 in the hole. So even the independent deal that he has gonna start feeling like it’s not worth supporting Fat Joe. “We’ll keep losing with this guy.”
source allhiphop.com
Rest of the interview in Interview section.

Farai4 · 04-28-2008, 01:41 PM

King 50 is the best thats all im going to say.

gunot4life · 04-28-2008, 01:43 PM

King 50? wtf

MrCatchaTemper · 04-28-2008, 01:45 PM

Propzz homie.

Murda Game · 04-28-2008, 01:47 PM

Why is 50 so worried about Fat Joes money

Farai4 · 04-28-2008, 01:49 PM

Man he just killed fat Joe right there haha let the truth be told. King 50 Always shits on these people, so King 50 took out Ja-rule and the whole murder inc, The Gayme and the never started blackwall strippers, D-Block and now Fat Joy Haha, the best rapper alive

Restrictive · 04-28-2008, 01:50 PM

Its quite Obvious they doing it

heartless monster · 04-28-2008, 01:54 PM

dam fif clowing joe forreal

CAlove · 04-28-2008, 01:55 PM

has Fat Joe ever paid 50 cent for anything?? NO! has 50 cent paid Fat Joe for anything? YES! hate it or love it beat, 30% of that went to Joe, so he got paid when it was on the documentary from 50 cent, he got paid when it was a single from 50 cent and he got paid when it was on the massacre from 50 cent!

FAT JOES FUCKING DJ!! HIS DJ!!! sold the same amount as 50 cents RAP ARTISTS on KOCH! so i dont think 50 cent has to worry about fat joes money

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAlove

has Fat Joe ever paid 50 cent for anything?? NO! has 50 cent paid Fat Joe for anything? YES! hate it or love it beat, 30% of that went to Joe, so he got paid when it was on the documentary from 50 cent, he got paid when it was a single from 50 cent and he got paid when it was on the massacre from 50 cent!

FAT JOES FUCKING DJ!! HIS DJ!!! sold the same amount as 50 cents RAP ARTISTS on KOCH! so i dont think 50 cent has to worry about fat joes money

I see what you trying to say, but I'm pretty sure 400,000, Buck the World, 347,000 Rotten Apple, and 440,000 Thoughts of A Predicate Felon are a more records sold than 79,000. As for the Hate It or Love It beat I didn't see Fat Joe's government name anywhere on the credits for Production or Mixing. So how's he getting 30% off a beat he didn't do shit for? Unless he owns Cool and Dre publishing, which to my knowledge he doesn't, there's no way he's getting paid by off those beats. If you them two producers why would you give Joe 30% of your publishing when you already splitting it between yourselves?

True Ronald · 04-28-2008, 02:08 PM

Rotten apple is not at 440,000

Khaled has sold better than RA and BTW and a lot more than prodigy, havoc, and spider's independent albums put together.

tturenegade · 04-28-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murda Game

Why is 50 so worried about Fat Joes money

Lol, you think 50 sounds worried ? Shit you gotta get more social kid.

BrebYayo · 04-28-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Sinister

Rotten apple is not at 440,000

Khaled has sold better than RA and BTW and a lot more than prodigy, havoc, and spider's independent albums put together.

he said yayo at 440,000....terror squad cant talk shit about album sales..fat joe strugglin to get 100,000....haha

Street Disciple · 04-28-2008, 02:14 PM

lmao

SP3unit · 04-28-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAlove

has Fat Joe ever paid 50 cent for anything?? NO! has 50 cent paid Fat Joe for anything? YES! hate it or love it beat, 30% of that went to Joe, so he got paid when it was on the documentary from 50 cent, he got paid when it was a single from 50 cent and he got paid when it was on the massacre from 50 cent!

FAT JOES FUCKING DJ!! HIS DJ!!! sold the same amount as 50 cents RAP ARTISTS on KOCH! so i dont think 50 cent has to worry about fat joes money

Fam you gotta back ur points with some sort of evidence. Yeah sure 50 just over doing this whole fat joe beef. But you just mad for some silly reason. You related to joe or something?

True Ronald · 04-28-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrebYayo

he said yayo at 440,000....terror squad cant talk shit about album sales..fat joe strugglin to get 100,000....haha

that's what I thought at first but I thought that I was reading it backwards because those Yayo numbers are low as hell.

I seriously thought it was a lot more than that

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Sinister

Rotten apple is not at 440,000

Khaled has sold better than RA and BTW and a lot more than prodigy, havoc, and spider's independent albums put together.

Look at my post again. I said Buck the world 400,000(source xxl mag on stands now) and Rotten Apple 347,000 (xxl same issue) Tony Yayo's record is the one that sold 440,000(xxl Love/hate issue Jan/feb 06). I ain't a hater that's good for Khaled and I hope his deal at Def Jam works out for him because he had two big records off his last album. If he can put together another hot collab record under this new deal he'll have a lot more doors opened up for him. Going Indie might get you a little more money, but exposure is what you're after. Establish a fanbase with the Indies, go to a major and expand it and then at that point you've proven yourself and can start making moves. Khaled and Jim Jones both used Koch and they in a position to start making their names known outside of a few circles in hip hop.

True Ronald · 04-28-2008, 02:34 PM

^
read my last post

True Ronald · 04-28-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black ice 07

Look at my post again. I said Buck the world 400,000(source xxl mag on stands now) and Rotten Apple 347,000 (xxl same issue) Tony Yayo's record is the one that sold 440,000(xxl Love/hate issue Jan/feb 06). I ain't a hater that's good for Khaled and I hope his deal at Def Jam works out for him because he had two big records off his last album. If he can put together another hot collab record under this new deal he'll have a lot more doors opened up for him. Going Indie might get you a little more money, but exposure is what you're after. Establish a fanbase with the Indies, go to a major and expand it and then at that point you've proven yourself and can start making moves. Khaled and Jim Jones both used Koch and they in a position to start making their names known outside of a few circles in hip hop.

I am not sure if Khaled will be on def jam. I think that it's just a label deal and the first new artist is Ace. Khaled and for that matter Terror Squad (not joe the group) are on Koch to my knowledge.

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 02:38 PM

^
Yayo numbers are low because of the time his album came out and should have been higher. He dropped in the mddle of the 50 cent vs the world beefs and towards the end of the Massacre's album cycle. He couldn't promote his single because he was on house arrest but the record still crossed over. Every project G-unit has released since then has been mishandled. That soundtrack is the only thing that is an exception.

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Sinister

I am not sure if Khaled will be on def jam. I think that it's just a label deal and the first new artist is Ace. Khaled and for that matter Terror Squad (not joe the group) are on Koch to my knowledge.

My fault homie I didn't see your last post. I thought Khaled deal was for a label and he signed himself and the Ace nigga to a deal? If he still at Koch he need to go over there with his artist so he can open a few doors for him and get him buzzing. Is he even good?

True Ronald · 04-28-2008, 02:46 PM

^
I don't like him but as he seems like his sound matches the other florida artist Khaled likes to work with.

I am an east coast fan so I am the wrong person to be asking about that.

BrebYayo · 04-28-2008, 02:48 PM

yayos record sales are still triple fat joes..so it still dont matter...u noticed u havent heard fat joe dissin g-unit since his album sales where released...he cant say shit to any of them...cause they just gonna ripp him about his sales...

CAlove · 04-28-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black ice 07

I see what you trying to say, but I'm pretty sure 400,000, Buck the World, 347,000 Rotten Apple, and 440,000 Thoughts of A Predicate Felon are a more records sold than 79,000. As for the Hate It or Love It beat I didn't see Fat Joe's government name anywhere on the credits for Production or Mixing. So how's he getting 30% off a beat he didn't do shit for? Unless he owns Cool and Dre publishing, which to my knowledge he doesn't, there's no way he's getting paid by off those beats. If you them two producers why would you give Joe 30% of your publishing when you already splitting it between yourselves?

COOL & DRE are not only signed to terror squad publishing but also managed by terror squad so its probably more then 30% - so 50 cent has paid joe..

black ice 07 · 04-28-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAlove

COOL & DRE are not only signed to terror squad publishing but also managed by terror squad so its probably more then 30% - so 50 cent has paid joe..

If they signed that deal then they some stupid ass niggas. They already have to split the remaining percent between themselves. 50 and Game get their writers credit, cool and dre get production and writing credit for the actual composition, and they signed as terror squad producers? Whoever was their lawyer for their deal needs to get shot if Joe getting 30+% of they shit.

04-28-2008, 01:27 PM	#1
black ice 07 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis Tenn Posts: 1,916 Repped: 923 Repped 841 Times in 137 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	04/28/08 - 50 on Fat Joe and using beef to sell records 04/28/08 - 50 on Fat Joe and using beef to sell records AllHipHop.com: I’m asking a question. That being said, do you feel the beef overshadows the fact that all of you are dropping excellent music? 50 Cent: No, it doesn’t. It’s obvious that that doesn’t actually sell records. It didn’t sell Fat Joe’s record, right? It did nothing for his actual record sales because if the audience hasn’t actually bought into you as an actual artist, I don’t give a fk how hot you’re song is, st ain’t going nowhere. And he’s had hit records, he’s had “Lean Back”, and the record he just put out wasn’t terrible, it wasn’t good because he was on it. If they had just J. Holiday and a new artist on that it would have sold a ton of ringtones but because it was him and the public already made a decision. The major record companies have decided he’s not a good investment anymore, that’s why he’s forced to produce the material on his own. Check this out, first of all there’s no such thing as an independent deal where you’re getting seven dollars a disc or I would be going somewhere not within my contractual agreements. I would sign an artist to that deal and take him everywhere I got until he’s hot and make a lot of money off him. You’re not going to get seven dollars a disc that’s the first lie that they tell. Now if you’re taking into consideration that video cost $200,000 to shoot for him and J. Holiday, then you take into account that they just shot a second music video—that was a mistake, his album’s already at 3,000 copies a week, it’s , it’s over. It’s ain’t goin’ to increase in sales. The last record that I seen from a Hip-Hop perspective increase in sales, that had a rapper on it be dead...it was the Soulja [Slim] record with Juvie, “Slow Motion.” He just spent an additional $200,000 on the next video. Now if you say the promo tour was about $200,000 for them to move around expenses for you to do you the marketing and radio, and everything’s good and you say the cost of your posterboards and print advertisement and small campaign I seen he had something going on with he obviously had to pay some money for them to run the banners that’s another $200,000, that put you at $800,000. Then just the basic expenses should put you at a full million dollars. Let’s say his lie is true, give him the benefit of the doubt and say we’re gonna give him seven dollars a disc you’re at 79,000 records right now and you just sold 3,000 records this week even if you were at 100,000 [sold] you would be $300,000 in the hole. So even the independent deal that he has gonna start feeling like it’s not worth supporting Fat Joe. “We’ll keep losing with this guy.” source allhiphop.com Rest of the interview in Interview section.

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Farai4 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: niggaworld Posts: 1,421 Repped: 28 Repped 478 Times in 69 Posts Neg Reps: 14 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 9 Posts	King 50 is the best thats all im going to say. __________________

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Farai4 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: niggaworld Posts: 1,421 Repped: 28 Repped 478 Times in 69 Posts Neg Reps: 14 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 9 Posts	Man he just killed fat Joe right there haha let the truth be told. King 50 Always shits on these people, so King 50 took out Ja-rule and the whole murder inc, The Gayme and the never started blackwall strippers, D-Block and now Fat Joy Haha, the best rapper alive __________________

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CAlove Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: .................. Posts: 290 Repped: 37 Repped 126 Times in 16 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	has Fat Joe ever paid 50 cent for anything?? NO! has 50 cent paid Fat Joe for anything? YES! hate it or love it beat, 30% of that went to Joe, so he got paid when it was on the documentary from 50 cent, he got paid when it was a single from 50 cent and he got paid when it was on the massacre from 50 cent! FAT JOES FUCKING DJ!! HIS DJ!!! sold the same amount as 50 cents RAP ARTISTS on KOCH! so i dont think 50 cent has to worry about fat joes money

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True Ronald Hip Hop Almanac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,019 Repped: 193 Repped 355 Times in 65 Posts Neg Reps: 25 Neg Repped at 39 Times in 26 Posts	Rotten apple is not at 440,000 Khaled has sold better than RA and BTW and a lot more than prodigy, havoc, and spider's independent albums put together. __________________ True Sinister's take on Keyshia Cole "gap teeth in your mouth so my dick's got to fit"

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black ice 07 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis Tenn Posts: 1,916 Repped: 923 Repped 841 Times in 137 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 10 Posts	^ Yayo numbers are low because of the time his album came out and should have been higher. He dropped in the mddle of the 50 cent vs the world beefs and towards the end of the Massacre's album cycle. He couldn't promote his single because he was on house arrest but the record still crossed over. Every project G-unit has released since then has been mishandled. That soundtrack is the only thing that is an exception.

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True Ronald Hip Hop Almanac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,019 Repped: 193 Repped 355 Times in 65 Posts Neg Reps: 25 Neg Repped at 39 Times in 26 Posts	^ I don't like him but as he seems like his sound matches the other florida artist Khaled likes to work with. I am an east coast fan so I am the wrong person to be asking about that. __________________ True Sinister's take on Keyshia Cole "gap teeth in your mouth so my dick's got to fit"

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BrebYayo NEW B Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NEW B Posts: 1,961 Repped: 600 Repped 184 Times in 79 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	yayos record sales are still triple fat joes..so it still dont matter...u noticed u havent heard fat joe dissin g-unit since his album sales where released...he cant say shit to any of them...cause they just gonna ripp him about his sales... __________________

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