09/22/07 - KANYE's & 50's SECOND WEEK PREDICTIONS (U.S.) (RUMOR) ...

Champaign Jackson · 09-22-2007, 10:17 PM

FROM THE "RUMOR" THANG ON HITSDAILYDOUBLE.COM :

"UMG Nashville Chairman Luke Lewis, who is sniffing the #1 slot on next week’s chart with Reba McEntire’s new album, Duets, which will sell between 220-240k next week, thanks to her appearance on Oprah last Wednesday and one with Larry King this weekend. The album is on target to surpass second-week sales for Kanye West."

"After a mind-blowing start, Kanye West (Roc-A-Fella/IDJ) will get a run for his money from the debuting Reba McEntire (MCA Nashville) and her duet partners, with each album churning toward a finish in the vicinity of 225-250k. 50 Cent (Shady/ Aftermath/ Interscope) will be solidly entrenched at #3 with 175-200, followed by Kenny Chesney (SBMG Nashville) with 120-125k. Barry Manilow’s paean to’70s pop (RCA) will round out the Top 5, just topping 100k in its first week. Following Disney’s #6 High School Musical 2, with 90-95k, are four more debuts: Universal Motown’s Chamillionaire at 85-90k, Atlantic’s James Blunt at 80-85k, Virgin’s KT Tunstall at 50-55k and Atlantic’s Twista at 40-45k. Other debuts this week: Motion City Soundtrack (Epitaph), 25-30k; Eddie Vedder (RCA), 30-35k, HIM (Sire), 30-35k; Dropkick Murphys (Born & Bred), 25-30k; Diana Krall (Verve), 25-30k; and Between the Buried and Me (Victory), 12-15k. Now, get outta here, you knuckleheads."

IT SEEMS LIKE KANYE WEST WON'T BE NUMBER 1.
HE's GONNA HOLD THE NUMBER 2 SPOT , AND 50 CENT WILL HOLD THE NUMBER 3 SPOT ; WITH SALES THAT WILL BE LIKELY CLOSED TO KANYE WEST's.
NOW , WE CAN EXPECT THAT THEIR SALES WILL BE PRETTY CONSTANT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

REAL SOUNDSCAN SALES WILL BE A LIL' BIGGER THAN WHAT HITSDAILYDOUBLE IS STATED ; IT's ALWAYS LIKE THAT.

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_RottenApple_ · 09-22-2007, 10:22 PM

Damn Thats A Huge Fall

robby84 · 09-22-2007, 10:37 PM

wow thats about a 70-75% drop for kanye...ummm makes u wonder did def jam buy those albums?? who knows lets wait until tuesday night.

and as for cham i was hopin he would do 250k first week but i think it hurt him by comin out a week after kanye & 50

J Dior · 09-22-2007, 10:53 PM

damn big drops

JEarly · 09-22-2007, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robby84

wow thats about a 70-75% drop for kanye...ummm makes u wonder did def jam buy those albums?? who knows lets wait until tuesday night.

and as for cham i was hopin he would do 250k first week but i think it hurt him by comin out a week after kanye & 50

Been screaming that shit longer then curtis. how do you drop that far off fifty did 877,000 first week get rich 822,000 second week. But hey You cant convince a hater so why try. In the words of jay-z on 106 park clash of the titans Bet a million wonder why??

EdG810 · 09-22-2007, 10:58 PM

they both have a huge drop but kanye still selling more haha

keepitgangsta · 09-22-2007, 11:04 PM

this answers sum questions

1. on mediatraffic, 50 is at 921k. which means thats 230k more than 691. thats higher than their prediction

kanye west is at 1.1. which means thats 196k more than 957. thats lower than their prediction

so either their predictions are totally wrong, or mediatraffic is un-reliable

and mediatraffic did count all the way up to thursday on their site

xx1Bloodxx · 09-22-2007, 11:06 PM

Can you say huuuuuuuuuge? Can you say huger than huge? Kanye West's magic week has everyone in the industry scratching their heads and wondering what just happened. I was barraged with calls asking me why this happened, how this happened, did this really happen and what it means for all of us. In this case, I think the answer is simple—it was a perfect storm for Mr. West.
First, he’s a well-respected artist who is pulling fans from hip-hop, R&B and pop.

Second his album has hits—real old-fashioned hits.

Third, the album is great, so that the initial buyers (as well as those who heard it when it leaked early) spread the word and sales projections actually kept gaining during the week. It was no one-day wonder, as many albums are these days.

Fourth, not only was West highly visible on the VMAs, he topped it off with a post-show anti-MTV tirade that was picked up by every media outlet in the Western world, putting him in the eye of the news storm that surrounded the Britney Spears’ performance on the show. West became the anti-Britney—the man who was wronged—as well as the anti-MTV and the media miracle for the week. You couldn’t turn on the TV or go online without catching sight of him. That flood of multimedia exposure enabled the word to get out there that his album was available. The point is, breaking through the overwhelming white noise of the Information Age and focusing people’s attention is a key element in any effective marketing campaign.

And fifth, the additional publicity he garnered from being dissed by the 50 Cent camp—along with Fiddy's media-trumpeted promise that if he failed to beat him, he'd never make another album—added more fuel to the media circus.

So what does this all mean for us?

1. Albums can still sell. (If he can do nearly 1m and Fitty almost another 700k in the same week, then there IS hope!)

2. Great music is always an essential ingredient.

3. Star quality is also necessary.

4. Hit singles never hurt. (Exposure of the right songs on the radio works, no matter what the radio bashers have to say.)

5. Publicity and exposure in all media is a key component. (Credit Messrs. Reid and Bartels and their team here for a job well done.)

6. Strive for greatness and add in all the other elements necessary to get people talking, and winners can still win!

kac · 09-22-2007, 11:45 PM

Yeah, it is a big drop for both artists. Still, at least they are selling by putting out decent albums. Propz.

BustaNutOnHerFace · 09-22-2007, 11:49 PM

50's percentage drop will be about the same as Kanye's

Rakim Allah · 09-22-2007, 11:52 PM

second week doesnt matter lol

kanye's gunna go plat and maybe 50 will too

they both had huge drops, but what do you expect ? anybody who wanted the album went out and copped first week.

& to end this statement, godam... cham flopped if those are real

Tha Unit On Top · 09-22-2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustaNutOnHerFace

50's percentage drop will be about the same as Kanye's

Not really, there is a huge difference between doing 957k first week and then 200 to 250k second week and doing 691k first week and 200k second week. Kanye did like 300k more than 50 first week, now they are both doing around the same numbers second week, that just doesnt seem right. Makes you think that maybe Def Jam bought 300k copies, and he should have done around 650k first week, then a 225k second week would be about right. That is a huge drop for Kanye, you dont do a mill one week than 200k the next, that aint supossed to happen.

Tha Unit On Top · 09-22-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatwad2

second week doesnt matter lol

kanye's gunna go plat and maybe 50 will too

they both had huge drops, but what do you expect ? anybody who wanted the album went out and copped first week.

& to end this statement, godam... cham flopped if those are real

Thats the dumbest shit I have heard, maybe 50 will go plat? Are you kidding me? If he does 200k this week he is already at like 900k in the US, forget the millions he will do worldwide, you dont think he will sell 100k more in the US to go plat? What are you smoking?

The Real K.I.N.G. · 09-23-2007, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Unit On Top

Thats the dumbest shit I have heard, maybe 50 will go plat? Are you kidding me? If he does 200k this week he is already at like 900k in the US, forget the millions he will do worldwide, you dont think he will sell 100k more in the US to go plat? What are you smoking?

lolllllllll ahhhh dude on that c-meth

justincredible19 · 09-23-2007, 12:12 AM

ha ha!! Thats crazy! only in america!!!

The Legend 2.0 · 09-23-2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Unit On Top

Not really, there is a huge difference between doing 957k first week and then 200 to 250k second week and doing 691k first week and 200k second week. Kanye did like 300k more than 50 first week, now they are both doing around the same numbers second week, that just doesnt seem right. Makes you think that maybe Def Jam bought 300k copies, and he should have done around 650k first week, then a 225k second week would be about right. That is a huge drop for Kanye, you dont do a mill one week than 200k the next, that aint supossed to happen.

50 has pretty much the same drop as Jay-z. If people are gonna assume that Jay bought records cause of his drop, then they have to assume 50 as well. In which case, they both cheated. ANd Kanye beat 50 second week as well, whicfh means he has more fans regardless.

Da General · 09-23-2007, 12:30 AM

50 has pretty much the same drop as Jay-z. If people are gonna assume that Jay bought records cause of his drop, then they have to assume 50 as well. In which case, they both cheated. ANd Kanye beat 50 second week as well, whicfh means he has more fans regardless.

Thats not tru 50 has a bigger fan base.. 50 is sellin more than ye overseas and the only reason why he sold more here is cuz who ever wasnt a 50 fan, dey supported ye 2 see 50 fail cuz he said if ye sells more he's gonna retire so ppl wanted 2 see if it was tru...

Very Bad News · 09-23-2007, 12:37 AM

Look at T.I, Dude sold around 500 000 and Hitting 1.1 mils in US, soon dropping soon...

*50*CENT*WIFE* · 09-23-2007, 12:48 AM

They Both Gonna Have A 2nd Week Drop Anyway Good Luck Guys ;)

Rakim Allah · 09-23-2007, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Unit On Top

Thats the dumbest shit I have heard, maybe 50 will go plat? Are you kidding me? If he does 200k this week he is already at like 900k in the US, forget the millions he will do worldwide, you dont think he will sell 100k more in the US to go plat? What are you smoking?

i meant this week. and since when is 900k = plat ?

nobody cares about worldwide anyway, people are just saying that because the people overseas cant understand 50.. why else would they enjoy it so much ?

I'm a Whore!!! · 09-23-2007, 04:28 AM

we all know def jam bought a bunch of kanye records....y r we still talking about it?

Very Bad News · 09-23-2007, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm a Whore!!!

we all know def jam bought a bunch of kanye records....y r we still talking about it?

coz he is still selling

#1_G-Unit_Fan · 09-23-2007, 05:03 AM

Propz good luck to both them

Seals · 09-23-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatwad2

i meant this week. and since when is 900k = plat ?

nobody cares about worldwide anyway, people are just saying that because the people overseas cant understand 50.. why else would they enjoy it so much ?

thats the thing...many of us is not from US. I care about worldwide sale. Look at samsung. Do u think that people only focuse on how much samsung sells in south korea or in the whole world?

Champaign Jackson · 09-23-2007, 10:26 AM

NOW THEIR SALES ARE GONNA BE PRETTY CONSTANT.
AND 50 GOT LOTS OF HITS ON HIS ALBUM ; HE CAN PUSH "PEEP SHOW" (feat. Eminem) , HE CAN PUSH "FIRE" (feat. Nicole Scherzinger & Young Buck).
I THINK HE CAN PUSH "I'LL STILL KILL" (feat. Akon) TOO , ONLY THANG THEY GOT TO DO IF THEY WANT TO PUSH THIS SONG , IS TO CHANGE SOME WORDS IN THE HOOK , AND THAT's IT.
N/EWAY , FUCK ANYBODY WHO HATES.
THEY THE BIGGEST THANG THAT HAPPENED TO HIP-HOP SINCE "THE MASSACRE".
STOP ALL THE FUCKIN' HATE , AND JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC.

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09-22-2007, 10:53 PM	#4
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09-23-2007, 12:48 AM	#19
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09-22-2007, 10:17 PM	#1
Champaign Jackson Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere. Posts: 4,672 Repped: 3,926 Repped 792 Times in 39 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	09/22/07 - KANYE's & 50's SECOND WEEK PREDICTIONS (U.S.) (RUMOR) ... 09/22/07 - KANYE's & 50's SECOND WEEK PREDICTIONS (U.S.) (RUMOR) ... FROM THE "RUMOR" THANG ON HITSDAILYDOUBLE.COM : "UMG Nashville Chairman Luke Lewis, who is sniffing the #1 slot on next week’s chart with Reba McEntire’s new album, Duets, which will sell between 220-240k next week, thanks to her appearance on Oprah last Wednesday and one with Larry King this weekend. The album is on target to surpass second-week sales for Kanye West." "After a mind-blowing start, Kanye West (Roc-A-Fella/IDJ) will get a run for his money from the debuting Reba McEntire (MCA Nashville) and her duet partners, with each album churning toward a finish in the vicinity of 225-250k. 50 Cent (Shady/ Aftermath/ Interscope) will be solidly entrenched at #3 with 175-200, followed by Kenny Chesney (SBMG Nashville) with 120-125k. Barry Manilow’s paean to’70s pop (RCA) will round out the Top 5, just topping 100k in its first week. Following Disney’s #6 High School Musical 2, with 90-95k, are four more debuts: Universal Motown’s Chamillionaire at 85-90k, Atlantic’s James Blunt at 80-85k, Virgin’s KT Tunstall at 50-55k and Atlantic’s Twista at 40-45k. Other debuts this week: Motion City Soundtrack (Epitaph), 25-30k; Eddie Vedder (RCA), 30-35k, HIM (Sire), 30-35k; Dropkick Murphys (Born & Bred), 25-30k; Diana Krall (Verve), 25-30k; and Between the Buried and Me (Victory), 12-15k. Now, get outta here, you knuckleheads." IT SEEMS LIKE KANYE WEST WON'T BE NUMBER 1. HE's GONNA HOLD THE NUMBER 2 SPOT , AND 50 CENT WILL HOLD THE NUMBER 3 SPOT ; WITH SALES THAT WILL BE LIKELY CLOSED TO KANYE WEST's. NOW , WE CAN EXPECT THAT THEIR SALES WILL BE PRETTY CONSTANT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. REAL SOUNDSCAN SALES WILL BE A LIL' BIGGER THAN WHAT HITSDAILYDOUBLE IS STATED ; IT's ALWAYS LIKE THAT. 1.

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_RottenApple_ Expectin' Jun3 1st. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Posts: 3,375 Repped: 973 Repped 386 Times in 57 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Damn Thats A Huge Fall

09-22-2007, 10:37 PM	#3
robby84 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queenz Bred, livin life in Y.O. Posts: 8,581 Repped: 3,246 Repped 13,909 Times in 1,126 Posts Neg Reps: 12 Neg Repped at 8 Times in 8 Posts	wow thats about a 70-75% drop for kanye...ummm makes u wonder did def jam buy those albums?? who knows lets wait until tuesday night. and as for cham i was hopin he would do 250k first week but i think it hurt him by comin out a week after kanye & 50 __________________ Most loved/Hated Moderator "Stop Bitchin" - Robby

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EdG810 Tha Babyface Gangsta Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,552 Repped: 679 Repped 886 Times in 196 Posts Neg Reps: 50 Neg Repped at 14 Times in 9 Posts	they both have a huge drop but kanye still selling more haha __________________ Living Revolutionary, Nothing Less Than Legendary, Gangsta Shit Hereditary, Got It From My Dad, Flow Colder Than February, With Extraordinary Swag.

09-22-2007, 11:04 PM	#7
keepitgangsta Veteran Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Wire Posts: 4,447 Repped: 395 Repped 1,610 Times in 179 Posts Neg Reps: 20 Neg Repped at 30 Times in 19 Posts	this answers sum questions 1. on mediatraffic, 50 is at 921k. which means thats 230k more than 691. thats higher than their prediction kanye west is at 1.1. which means thats 196k more than 957. thats lower than their prediction so either their predictions are totally wrong, or mediatraffic is un-reliable and mediatraffic did count all the way up to thursday on their site

09-22-2007, 11:06 PM	#8
xx1Bloodxx Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 271 Repped: 47 Repped 25 Times in 5 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can you say huuuuuuuuuge? Can you say huger than huge? Kanye West's magic week has everyone in the industry scratching their heads and wondering what just happened. I was barraged with calls asking me why this happened, how this happened, did this really happen and what it means for all of us. In this case, I think the answer is simple—it was a perfect storm for Mr. West. First, he’s a well-respected artist who is pulling fans from hip-hop, R&B and pop. Second his album has hits—real old-fashioned hits. Third, the album is great, so that the initial buyers (as well as those who heard it when it leaked early) spread the word and sales projections actually kept gaining during the week. It was no one-day wonder, as many albums are these days. Fourth, not only was West highly visible on the VMAs, he topped it off with a post-show anti-MTV tirade that was picked up by every media outlet in the Western world, putting him in the eye of the news storm that surrounded the Britney Spears’ performance on the show. West became the anti-Britney—the man who was wronged—as well as the anti-MTV and the media miracle for the week. You couldn’t turn on the TV or go online without catching sight of him. That flood of multimedia exposure enabled the word to get out there that his album was available. The point is, breaking through the overwhelming white noise of the Information Age and focusing people’s attention is a key element in any effective marketing campaign. And fifth, the additional publicity he garnered from being dissed by the 50 Cent camp—along with Fiddy's media-trumpeted promise that if he failed to beat him, he'd never make another album—added more fuel to the media circus. So what does this all mean for us? 1. Albums can still sell. (If he can do nearly 1m and Fitty almost another 700k in the same week, then there IS hope!) 2. Great music is always an essential ingredient. 3. Star quality is also necessary. 4. Hit singles never hurt. (Exposure of the right songs on the radio works, no matter what the radio bashers have to say.) 5. Publicity and exposure in all media is a key component. (Credit Messrs. Reid and Bartels and their team here for a job well done.) 6. Strive for greatness and add in all the other elements necessary to get people talking, and winners can still win!

09-22-2007, 11:45 PM	#9
kac Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee,FL Posts: 3,891 Repped: 1,815 Repped 61 Times in 13 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, it is a big drop for both artists. Still, at least they are selling by putting out decent albums. Propz.

09-22-2007, 11:49 PM	#10
BustaNutOnHerFace Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 141 Repped: 1 Repped 5 Times in 3 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	50's percentage drop will be about the same as Kanye's

09-22-2007, 11:52 PM	#11
Rakim Allah Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wherever you Want to Be Posts: 805 Repped: 574 Repped 138 Times in 37 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	second week doesnt matter lol kanye's gunna go plat and maybe 50 will too they both had huge drops, but what do you expect ? anybody who wanted the album went out and copped first week. & to end this statement, godam... cham flopped if those are real

09-23-2007, 12:12 AM	#15
justincredible19 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,193 Repped: 555 Repped 208 Times in 33 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	ha ha!! Thats crazy! only in america!!!

09-23-2007, 12:30 AM	#17
Da General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 125 Repped: 19 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	50 has pretty much the same drop as Jay-z. If people are gonna assume that Jay bought records cause of his drop, then they have to assume 50 as well. In which case, they both cheated. ANd Kanye beat 50 second week as well, whicfh means he has more fans regardless. Thats not tru 50 has a bigger fan base.. 50 is sellin more than ye overseas and the only reason why he sold more here is cuz who ever wasnt a 50 fan, dey supported ye 2 see 50 fail cuz he said if ye sells more he's gonna retire so ppl wanted 2 see if it was tru...

09-23-2007, 12:37 AM	#18
Very Bad News Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: BX Posts: 517 Repped: 1 Repped 162 Times in 12 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Look at T.I, Dude sold around 500 000 and Hitting 1.1 mils in US, soon dropping soon...

09-23-2007, 04:28 AM	#21
I'm a Whore!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vegas Posts: 293 Repped: 6 Repped 22 Times in 1 Post Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	we all know def jam bought a bunch of kanye records....y r we still talking about it?

09-23-2007, 05:03 AM	#23
#1_G-Unit_Fan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,483 Repped: 3 Repped 5 Times in 4 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Propz good luck to both them

09-23-2007, 10:26 AM	#25
Champaign Jackson Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere. Posts: 4,672 Repped: 3,926 Repped 792 Times in 39 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	NOW THEIR SALES ARE GONNA BE PRETTY CONSTANT. AND 50 GOT LOTS OF HITS ON HIS ALBUM ; HE CAN PUSH "PEEP SHOW" (feat. Eminem) , HE CAN PUSH "FIRE" (feat. Nicole Scherzinger & Young Buck). I THINK HE CAN PUSH "I'LL STILL KILL" (feat. Akon) TOO , ONLY THANG THEY GOT TO DO IF THEY WANT TO PUSH THIS SONG , IS TO CHANGE SOME WORDS IN THE HOOK , AND THAT's IT. N/EWAY , FUCK ANYBODY WHO HATES. THEY THE BIGGEST THANG THAT HAPPENED TO HIP-HOP SINCE "THE MASSACRE". STOP ALL THE FUCKIN' HATE , AND JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC. 1.