"The East Coast Killed Hip-Hop" - Pimp C

Tha Boricua Flow · 09-11-2006, 02:52 PM

"Y'all stop cryin' mayne, on the east. Y'all been eating for years... We all got grillz in our mouth, now they want grillz in they mouth on the east. I ain't trippin', do your thing. But, don't be crying that hip-hop's dead. If hip-hop's dead, it's y'all fault that hip-hop's dead. So, get your backpack, jump on the train and get your paying gig up and get in the know." (Pimp C on 97.9 The Box) (There's definitely more to Pimp C's comments, so be sure to check it out at the end of this post.)

Not unlike 50 Cent's "southern rap hurts hip-hop as a whole" statement earlier this year. The problem with these claims is that people often take a specific controversial portion and run with it, missing the message entirely. Truth be told, 50 and Pimp are both right, in a way.

I'll explain.

Inept southern rappers like D4L, Mike Jones and Yung Joc are often mistaken as being representative of the dirty south sound. Not to mention the countless "Lil' No-Names" and "Young No-Skill" wannabes out there., who make it all too easy to clown on southern hip-hop by creating half-assed ear pollutants that somehow manage to float their way to No.1.

On the other hand, some east coast (read: NY) fanatics are busy lamenting "hip-hop is dead" instead of focussing on their craft. Much like the "No Snitching" movement, the "Hip-Hop Is Dead" movement has gone from annoying to moronic. Everywhere you turn, you're greeted by this fallacious slogan. It's the title of Nas' forthcoming album and the sub-title of 50 Cent's latest diss-fest., It's the introductory skit on the aforementioned G-Unit mixtape. Virginia rapper Skillz has also squeezed a song out of it. In fact, I won't be surprised if "Hip-Hop Is Dead" t-shirts soon start circulating the internet. Yea...yea, hip-hop is dead. But, how much are we doing to rescue it from the hands of the corporate machinations that's been manhandling this business for decades? What have we done to empower those who truly care about this art form?

You see, that's exactly the type of attitude that has forced this girl named hip-hop to her grave. Hip-hop's dead because people ain't paying attention. When was the last time you actually went out and bought albums that absolutely deserve your $9.99 as opposed to buying horrible music that radio (aka pay-for-oplay) has forced onto your ears? If you're so concerned about hip-hop, why don't you go out and cop The Roots' new album Game Theory--arguably the best album of the year so far? What stops you from picking up Trae's Restless which rivals T.I.'s King for southern rap album of the year? When was the last time you paid to see V-Zilla perform live? Even though you've heard of K-Rino, have you ever bothered to send your Rick Ross' CD on vacation and give Rino's Time Traveler a spin?

Hip-hop is dead because people are terrified of change. Too cool to try new things. Look, if the only Cham you're familiar with is a pink-wearing, ear ring-rocking Harlemite, then you're probably responsible for hip-hop's death. If the only Tip you'll ever listen to is the guy from A Tribe Called Quest, maybe you should be arrested for killing hip-hop. If you've already dismissed Young Dro as an off-brand version of T.I. without having heard anything besides "Shoulder Lean," then it could be your fault that hip-hop's dead.

Don't get it twisted, though. I've always had an ecclectic taste in music. To paraphrase Luda, Rizoh's universal, never limits himself to the south. But, my point is that people need to embrace new sounds instead of tearing it down. Stop whining about what region's really running things (or should be running things). It's time to start paying attention to the MUSIC.

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Chobie · 09-11-2006, 02:57 PM

Olllllllld

Mr. Montana · 09-11-2006, 03:03 PM

props.....

BucK_MarleY_07 · 09-11-2006, 03:04 PM

Nice Read,blame all the finger snapping for "Hip-Hop being Dead".

Fabuless · 09-11-2006, 03:16 PM

^^^^^^yea if nigguhz didnt "snap yo fingers do yo staire" then hip hop wouldnt of died lmao

Tha Boricua Flow · 09-11-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chobie

Olllllllld

STFU....Fuck you talkin bout that shit just came out like 2 hours ago

Jay Day · 09-11-2006, 03:19 PM

propz mane

the problem child · 09-11-2006, 03:21 PM

nice man true.

Graphical · 09-11-2006, 03:22 PM

props.
hip hop aint dead. just to much trash out.

IbeWazir · 09-11-2006, 03:24 PM

To me, the south is killin' Hip-Hop for real. I didn't read this article and I like Pimp C (UGK) so no hatin' on their part, but the South sucks ass!

One Be Lo · 09-11-2006, 03:26 PM

isnt he on talibs album?

G UNITY · 09-11-2006, 03:29 PM

propz good read

St.Valentine's Massacre · 09-11-2006, 03:33 PM

SHM,.....Grill didn't start South cause Flavor Flav got gold teeth in his mouth and Wu-Tang...RZA, Ol'Dirty Bastard.

I noticed that East and South trippin cause they blame "Hip-Hop is dead". Moslty East and West put out sjitty club banger video. West Coast keep it real put out real music, Ice Cube, Snoop, Game, put out real video, real music. I give West props

Southside50MOB · 09-11-2006, 03:34 PM

ya ok the east killed hip hop the east built hip hop....

Tha Boricua Flow · 09-11-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IbeWazir

To me, the south is killin' Hip-Hop for real. I didn't read this article and I like Pimp C (UGK) so no hatin' on their part, but the South sucks ass!

...........

Gbones · 09-11-2006, 03:35 PM

danb idk man i think the south killed it....d4l, laffy taffy, chicken noodle soup song stupid shit liek that killed it

faraiking · 09-11-2006, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-Rag-G-unit

^^^^^^yea if nigguhz didnt "snap yo fingers do yo staire" then hip hop wouldnt of died lmao

u are problly a big snaping fingure fan thats why u got so angry over that bitch boy.

Pinko · 09-11-2006, 03:37 PM

propz... actually 50 is the one killing hip-hop

young_min · 09-11-2006, 03:39 PM

he rite tho stop complainin n bring hip hop back if its "dead".. bring bk the gd years man !

Fliparachi · 09-11-2006, 03:40 PM

props good read

St.Valentine's Massacre · 09-11-2006, 03:43 PM

Simple.......East and South killed Hip-Hop

East and South need stop bitchin. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy music.

To be honeslty, I think FANS killed Hip-Hop.....cause they choose music what they like.

Tha Boricua Flow · 09-11-2006, 03:45 PM

Wanna know what killed hiphop?......MTV BET all the big corporations that got involve that is what's killin hip hop

YoungGunna · 09-11-2006, 03:46 PM

Fuck All U Lil Niggas, Who Hatin On Tha South.....

St.Valentine's Massacre · 09-11-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Hurricane Bank$

Wanna know what killed hiphop?......MTV BET all the big corporations that got involve that is what's killin hip hop

add that one too, plus radio

apmorris335 · 09-11-2006, 03:52 PM

I think when people say "The South killed hip hop", they mean how the lyrical, gutter side of hip hop isn't there... Sure you have niggas like Young Buck, Lil' Wayne, etc. who are lyrical in their own right, but the South niggas who are taking over shit like 106 and Park, Rap City, TRL, etc... are the "snap ya fingers" dudes. That is what people are referring to. Its not like people are saying "South niggas are ruining hip hop" as a statement, they mean the bubblegum bullshit. I have to agree too...I mean shit, hip hop is all about lyrics, the streets, etc. Sure it is about club bangers too, as that is how the rappers make money. The problem is when you have a song like "Laffy Taffy", it takes the entire point away from the "hip hop" concept as a whole. There isn't rapping, there isn't singing, there is just goofy fuckin dancing. I mean shit, take a group like D4L..every nigga in the group is about as untalented as you could possibly get...but for some reason, they come up with a goofy little hook which isn't creative one bit, it gets thrown on a beat, and all of a sudden its a success. Songs like these are taking credit, success, and airtime away from dudes who come out with songs that are aimed toward lyrics, song writing, etc. I mean shit, if I am a dude who is lyrical as a mothafucka and come out with a cd...but for some reason, none of my songs get shit for airtime, I will feel like I am not appreciated enough and that these goofy "Laffy Taffy" songs are above me in the pecking order..Im gonna be pissed ya know? There are a grip of dudes on the east coast right now that 2 years ago would have blown the fuck up..but there isn't that much of a high demand for lyrics right now.. It sucks.. I'm not hatin, I just understand the concept..

09-11-2006, 02:52 PM	#1
Tha Boricua Flow Free At Last Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 3,593 Repped: 893 Repped 3,566 Times in 397 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 3 Posts	"The East Coast Killed Hip-Hop" - Pimp C "The East Coast Killed Hip-Hop" - Pimp C "Y'all stop cryin' mayne, on the east. Y'all been eating for years... We all got grillz in our mouth, now they want grillz in they mouth on the east. I ain't trippin', do your thing. But, don't be crying that hip-hop's dead. If hip-hop's dead, it's y'all fault that hip-hop's dead. So, get your backpack, jump on the train and get your paying gig up and get in the know." (Pimp C on 97.9 The Box) (There's definitely more to Pimp C's comments, so be sure to check it out at the end of this post.) Not unlike 50 Cent's "southern rap hurts hip-hop as a whole" statement earlier this year. The problem with these claims is that people often take a specific controversial portion and run with it, missing the message entirely. Truth be told, 50 and Pimp are both right, in a way. I'll explain. Inept southern rappers like D4L, Mike Jones and Yung Joc are often mistaken as being representative of the dirty south sound. Not to mention the countless "Lil' No-Names" and "Young No-Skill" wannabes out there., who make it all too easy to clown on southern hip-hop by creating half-assed ear pollutants that somehow manage to float their way to No.1. On the other hand, some east coast (read: NY) fanatics are busy lamenting "hip-hop is dead" instead of focussing on their craft. Much like the "No Snitching" movement, the "Hip-Hop Is Dead" movement has gone from annoying to moronic. Everywhere you turn, you're greeted by this fallacious slogan. It's the title of Nas' forthcoming album and the sub-title of 50 Cent's latest diss-fest., It's the introductory skit on the aforementioned G-Unit mixtape. Virginia rapper Skillz has also squeezed a song out of it. In fact, I won't be surprised if "Hip-Hop Is Dead" t-shirts soon start circulating the internet. Yea...yea, hip-hop is dead. But, how much are we doing to rescue it from the hands of the corporate machinations that's been manhandling this business for decades? What have we done to empower those who truly care about this art form? You see, that's exactly the type of attitude that has forced this girl named hip-hop to her grave. Hip-hop's dead because people ain't paying attention. When was the last time you actually went out and bought albums that absolutely deserve your $9.99 as opposed to buying horrible music that radio (aka pay-for-oplay) has forced onto your ears? If you're so concerned about hip-hop, why don't you go out and cop The Roots' new album Game Theory--arguably the best album of the year so far? What stops you from picking up Trae's Restless which rivals T.I.'s King for southern rap album of the year? When was the last time you paid to see V-Zilla perform live? Even though you've heard of K-Rino, have you ever bothered to send your Rick Ross' CD on vacation and give Rino's Time Traveler a spin? Hip-hop is dead because people are terrified of change. Too cool to try new things. Look, if the only Cham you're familiar with is a pink-wearing, ear ring-rocking Harlemite, then you're probably responsible for hip-hop's death. If the only Tip you'll ever listen to is the guy from A Tribe Called Quest, maybe you should be arrested for killing hip-hop. If you've already dismissed Young Dro as an off-brand version of T.I. without having heard anything besides "Shoulder Lean," then it could be your fault that hip-hop's dead. Don't get it twisted, though. I've always had an ecclectic taste in music. To paraphrase Luda, Rizoh's universal, never limits himself to the south. But, my point is that people need to embrace new sounds instead of tearing it down. Stop whining about what region's really running things (or should be running things). It's time to start paying attention to the MUSIC. SOURCE:

09-11-2006, 03:04 PM	#4
BucK_MarleY_07 LAUGH NOW, Cry Later Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: TopCity Posts: 4,618 Repped: 962 Repped 893 Times in 461 Posts Neg Reps: 148 Neg Repped at 632 Times in 378 Posts	Nice Read,blame all the finger snapping for "Hip-Hop being Dead". __________________ 'I follow no man, a nigga got his own plan, and its called Killuminati'-2pac

09-11-2006, 03:34 PM	#14
Southside50MOB **** DYING Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Da QUIKI MART IN NEW YORK BUYIN A STRAWBERRY PHILLAY Posts: 2,134 Repped: 24 Repped 54 Times in 39 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ya ok the east killed hip hop the east built hip hop.... __________________ MORE AUTOMATICS IN YA FACE YOULL BE PREPARIN YA BERIAL NO RETRACIN THE WEAPON AFTER YOU SCRATCH OFF THE SERIAL

09-11-2006, 03:35 PM	#16
Gbones 1 of thE Original Members Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Nuu Jerz/ Philla!! Stand UP!! Posts: 13,625 Repped: 4,525 Repped 415 Times in 54 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 4 Posts	danb idk man i think the south killed it....d4l, laffy taffy, chicken noodle soup song stupid shit liek that killed it __________________

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YoungGunna Young Gunna Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: T Dot Posts: 11,088 Repped: 350 Repped 132 Times in 90 Posts Neg Reps: 33 Neg Repped at 7 Times in 7 Posts	Fuck All U Lil Niggas, Who Hatin On Tha South..... __________________

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Chobie Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,644 Repped: 35 Repped 770 Times in 341 Posts Neg Reps: 107 Neg Repped at 196 Times in 125 Posts	Olllllllld

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Mr. Montana Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,364 Repped: 99 Repped 33 Times in 9 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	props.....

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Fabuless Producer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,285 Repped: 2,380 Repped 204 Times in 59 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^^^^^^yea if nigguhz didnt "snap yo fingers do yo staire" then hip hop wouldnt of died lmao

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Jay Day I ♥ Real Hip-Hop Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,173 Repped: 536 Repped 39 Times in 23 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz mane

09-11-2006, 03:21 PM	#8
the problem child Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kissimmee Florida Posts: 845 Repped: 205 Repped 63 Times in 8 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nice man true.

09-11-2006, 03:22 PM	#9
Graphical Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 803 Repped: 459 Repped 2 Times in 2 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	props. hip hop aint dead. just to much trash out.

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IbeWazir The Realist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Marshall, MO Posts: 3,004 Repped: 576 Repped 144 Times in 79 Posts Neg Reps: 53 Neg Repped at 81 Times in 30 Posts	To me, the south is killin' Hip-Hop for real. I didn't read this article and I like Pimp C (UGK) so no hatin' on their part, but the South sucks ass!

09-11-2006, 03:26 PM	#11
One Be Lo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 632 Repped: 28 Repped 182 Times in 39 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	isnt he on talibs album?

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G UNITY half-man, half-amazin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 62 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz good read

09-11-2006, 03:33 PM	#13
St.Valentine's Massacre Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 124 Repped: 15 Repped 38 Times in 17 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	SHM,.....Grill didn't start South cause Flavor Flav got gold teeth in his mouth and Wu-Tang...RZA, Ol'Dirty Bastard. I noticed that East and South trippin cause they blame "Hip-Hop is dead". Moslty East and West put out sjitty club banger video. West Coast keep it real put out real music, Ice Cube, Snoop, Game, put out real video, real music. I give West props

09-11-2006, 03:37 PM	#18
Pinko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 118 Repped: 119 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz... actually 50 is the one killing hip-hop

09-11-2006, 03:39 PM	#19
young_min ...... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 1 Posts: 1,458 Repped: 205 Repped 127 Times in 33 Posts Neg Reps: 7 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	he rite tho stop complainin n bring hip hop back if its "dead".. bring bk the gd years man !

09-11-2006, 03:40 PM	#20
Fliparachi CHoPPeD n ScREw'd uP Join Date: May 2006 Location: BC Posts: 745 Repped: 64 Repped 11 Times in 7 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	props good read

09-11-2006, 03:43 PM	#21
St.Valentine's Massacre Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 124 Repped: 15 Repped 38 Times in 17 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simple.......East and South killed Hip-Hop East and South need stop bitchin. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy music. To be honeslty, I think FANS killed Hip-Hop.....cause they choose music what they like.

09-11-2006, 03:45 PM	#22
Tha Boricua Flow Free At Last Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 3,593 Repped: 893 Repped 3,566 Times in 397 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 3 Posts	Wanna know what killed hiphop?......MTV BET all the big corporations that got involve that is what's killin hip hop

09-11-2006, 03:52 PM	#25
apmorris335 PuNChLInE KING 92 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 379 Repped: 0 Repped 18 Times in 8 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	I think when people say "The South killed hip hop", they mean how the lyrical, gutter side of hip hop isn't there... Sure you have niggas like Young Buck, Lil' Wayne, etc. who are lyrical in their own right, but the South niggas who are taking over shit like 106 and Park, Rap City, TRL, etc... are the "snap ya fingers" dudes. That is what people are referring to. Its not like people are saying "South niggas are ruining hip hop" as a statement, they mean the bubblegum bullshit. I have to agree too...I mean shit, hip hop is all about lyrics, the streets, etc. Sure it is about club bangers too, as that is how the rappers make money. The problem is when you have a song like "Laffy Taffy", it takes the entire point away from the "hip hop" concept as a whole. There isn't rapping, there isn't singing, there is just goofy fuckin dancing. I mean shit, take a group like D4L..every nigga in the group is about as untalented as you could possibly get...but for some reason, they come up with a goofy little hook which isn't creative one bit, it gets thrown on a beat, and all of a sudden its a success. Songs like these are taking credit, success, and airtime away from dudes who come out with songs that are aimed toward lyrics, song writing, etc. I mean shit, if I am a dude who is lyrical as a mothafucka and come out with a cd...but for some reason, none of my songs get shit for airtime, I will feel like I am not appreciated enough and that these goofy "Laffy Taffy" songs are above me in the pecking order..Im gonna be pissed ya know? There are a grip of dudes on the east coast right now that 2 years ago would have blown the fuck up..but there isn't that much of a high demand for lyrics right now.. It sucks.. I'm not hatin, I just understand the concept..

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