Rakim On His Dr. Dre-Produced Records, "I Think A Lot Of It Is Just Gonna Stay Buried

PAP · 10-21-2009, 09:59 AM

Rakim recently addressed his past run on Dr. Dre's Aftermath Records and said that fans should not expect to hear any of their unreleased tracks.

For Rakim, most of the tracks were reportedly in their "early" stages.

"I think what it was that when we got in the studio, we realized how different we were when it came to making music. I got a grasp of that and told him I needed to come back to New York and start all over. He understood that.I think a lot of it is just gonna stay buried," Rakim explained in an interview. "All of it was in its rough stages. It wasn't like nothing was really, kind of finished off. Most of the songs we did, Dre didn't have nothing to do with. It was one of them things where I was working with some of the producers and then once we got all of that mashed out, Dre was supposed to go hard but we never got to that point. I think most of it will stay buried." (Hip Hop Game)

The rap pioneer previously spoke on the advantages of being on Dre's label.

"Too many creative differences," he said about the Aftermath labelhead. "[Dre] wanted to go in one direction, and I wanted to go in another. I really wish we could've gotten on the same page, and an album would've come out like four years ago. There weren't any bridges burned, though, so hopefully we can work together again. One good thing that did come out of living in California for a few years was it opened me up to some West Coast sounds that I didn't know existed." (The New York Post)

His first single, "Holy Are You," from the upcoming album Seventh Seal, dropped over the summer.

"I need to talk to y'all for a minute," Rakim says in the intro. "Get serious for a minute. For those who find it hard to believe/It is they call me the God MC, the lyricist...the world wonder, still standing like pyramids/Designs so vivid, each brick it's got a story to tell...It's like watching a Big Bang theory emerge, I take titles, ball 'em to a billion words...Rap tight, rap like I've been preserved in time/Spit the holy water/Touch it to turn it to wine/It's the God..." ("Holy Are You")

Rakim weighed in on the importance of New York rappers to rep authentic hip-hop earlier this year.

"New York is responsible for bringing that raw...real gritty hip-hop 'cause we originated it" Rakim said in an interview. "New York and the East Coast, we gotta represent and do our part and then it's okay for everyone else to do what they do...then it'll be a balance and everybody will be happy...but once New York and the East Coast start submitting certain sounds right now, then yeah, a certain element of hip-hop will die." ("Jenny Boom Boom")

Ciya · 10-21-2009, 10:04 AM

album will be dope, rakim doesnt need dre

Kaspa · 10-21-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PAP

"New York is responsible for bringing that raw...real gritty hip-hop 'cause we originated it" Rakim said in an interview. "New York and the East Coast, we gotta represent and do our part and then it's okay for everyone else to do what they do...then it'll be a balance and everybody will be happy...but once New York and the East Coast start submitting certain sounds right now, then yeah, a certain element of hip-hop will die." ("Jenny Boom Boom")

The man spits the truth, NYC got that sound that when you hear it you know where its from. I'm surprised Ra even wanted someone else to do his production. No hate on the West coast but Ra should take it back to the streets that helped make him the GOD.

srmafia · 10-21-2009, 12:48 PM

I appreciate the news but the links are really annoying...

Shyne · 10-21-2009, 03:51 PM

Damn, I still hold out hope that the tracks someday see the day of light, even if they are un-finished, Iim still interested to hear what it was sounding like.

Maybe someday they can link back up though, I still think a Dre and Ra album would be amazing.

PhillyThug · 10-21-2009, 07:21 PM

anybody know if the beat to walk these streets is a dre beat?

ManUP · 10-22-2009, 01:28 AM

Sounds more like Rakim wanted Dre to get on "his" page, more them on the same page.
I just don;t think Dre was gonna do something different except for banging tracks for him, but it seems like Rakim was thinking all NY. You can tell by that request and the comment of being expose to WestCoast sound. After all these years it was then Ra was being exposed to West sound? He was too stuck in his NY way it seems.

Shyne · 10-22-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ManUP

Sounds more like Rakim wanted Dre to get on "his" page, more them on the same page.
I just don;t think Dre was gonna do something different except for banging tracks for him, but it seems like Rakim was thinking all NY. You can tell by that request and the comment of being expose to WestCoast sound. After all these years it was then Ra was being exposed to West sound? He was too stuck in his NY way it seems.

actually based on all the interviews that came out back in the day the creative difference was Dre wanted Rakim to make harder Gangster music, Ra is more about the spiritual shit and thats where they clashed, Ra didnt want to make gangster rap

BuckEm · 10-22-2009, 01:59 AM

^^^^^^^ exactly how i see it

Europe Guy · 10-22-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shyne

actually based on all the interviews that came out back in the day the creative difference was Dre wanted Rakim to make harder Gangster music, Ra is more about the spiritual shit and thats where they clashed, Ra didnt want to make gangster rap

nah it wasnt about gangster rap

and walk these streeets is produced by needlz

PhillyThug · 10-22-2009, 08:47 PM

^thanks i heard both but wasn't sure who actually produced it. regardless the album is looking pretty good. definitely gonna pick that up

10-21-2009, 09:59 AM	#1
PAP Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: East London Posts: 11,678 Repped: 3 Repped 2,206 Times in 371 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Rakim On His Dr. Dre-Produced Records, "I Think A Lot Of It Is Just Gonna Stay Buried Rakim On His Dr. Dre-Produced Records, "I Think A Lot Of It Is Just Gonna Stay Buried Rakim recently addressed his past run on Dr. Dre's Aftermath Records and said that fans should not expect to hear any of their unreleased tracks. For Rakim, most of the tracks were reportedly in their "early" stages. "I think what it was that when we got in the studio, we realized how different we were when it came to making music. I got a grasp of that and told him I needed to come back to New York and start all over. He understood that.I think a lot of it is just gonna stay buried," Rakim explained in an interview. "All of it was in its rough stages. It wasn't like nothing was really, kind of finished off. Most of the songs we did, Dre didn't have nothing to do with. It was one of them things where I was working with some of the producers and then once we got all of that mashed out, Dre was supposed to go hard but we never got to that point. I think most of it will stay buried." (Hip Hop Game) The rap pioneer previously spoke on the advantages of being on Dre's label. "Too many creative differences," he said about the Aftermath labelhead. "[Dre] wanted to go in one direction, and I wanted to go in another. I really wish we could've gotten on the same page, and an album would've come out like four years ago. There weren't any bridges burned, though, so hopefully we can work together again. One good thing that did come out of living in California for a few years was it opened me up to some West Coast sounds that I didn't know existed." (The New York Post) His first single, "Holy Are You," from the upcoming album Seventh Seal, dropped over the summer. "I need to talk to y'all for a minute," Rakim says in the intro. "Get serious for a minute. For those who find it hard to believe/It is they call me the God MC, the lyricist...the world wonder, still standing like pyramids/Designs so vivid, each brick it's got a story to tell...It's like watching a Big Bang theory emerge, I take titles, ball 'em to a billion words...Rap tight, rap like I've been preserved in time/Spit the holy water/Touch it to turn it to wine/It's the God..." ("Holy Are You") Rakim weighed in on the importance of New York rappers to rep authentic hip-hop earlier this year. "New York is responsible for bringing that raw...real gritty hip-hop 'cause we originated it" Rakim said in an interview. "New York and the East Coast, we gotta represent and do our part and then it's okay for everyone else to do what they do...then it'll be a balance and everybody will be happy...but once New York and the East Coast start submitting certain sounds right now, then yeah, a certain element of hip-hop will die." ("Jenny Boom Boom")

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PhillyThug King of Philly Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 779 Repped: 139 Repped 17 Times in 10 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	anybody know if the beat to walk these streets is a dre beat?

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ManUP Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 158 Repped: 56 Repped 46 Times in 27 Posts Neg Reps: 24 Neg Repped at 9 Times in 7 Posts	Sounds more like Rakim wanted Dre to get on "his" page, more them on the same page. I just don;t think Dre was gonna do something different except for banging tracks for him, but it seems like Rakim was thinking all NY. You can tell by that request and the comment of being expose to WestCoast sound. After all these years it was then Ra was being exposed to West sound? He was too stuck in his NY way it seems.

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PhillyThug King of Philly Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 779 Repped: 139 Repped 17 Times in 10 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	^thanks i heard both but wasn't sure who actually produced it. regardless the album is looking pretty good. definitely gonna pick that up

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