Asher Roth Is Proof That Hip-Hop Has Won

J-Banks · 03-25-2009, 09:31 AM

Asher Roth Is Proof That Hip-Hop Has Won
MC is the living, breathing example of 21st-century hip-hop culture, in Bigger Than the Sound.

Asher Roth is a translucent MC from the suburbs of Pennsylvania who grew up listening to the Dave Matthews Band, enrolled in West Chester University with the idea of pursuing a career in elementary education and dresses like it's eternally laundry day. He raps about weed and MILFs and beer pong. He is sort of like the hip-hop equivalent of CollegeHumor.com

None of those things are the thing about Asher Roth, though I suspect all of them have something to do with what happens whenever I ask real hip-hop fans and critics about him — they sort of get quiet, kind of look at the ground and mutter something like, "Yeah ... he's ... yeah." Roth is basically everything these people are supposed to despise about hip-hop today. By his own admission, he has very little street credibility, and he has paid very few dues, yet he already has a crossover hit and has been the subject of several dozen "Next Big Things" pieces (including our MCs to Watch series). He raps about goofy things like Teddy Ruxpin and pizza, he doesn't have a thuggish bone in his body, and his lyrics have the depth of a kiddie pool.

And yet none of those things should really matter. Because no matter how hard people want to hate Asher Roth, no matter how quick people are to dismiss him as some sort of bed-headed media construct, they really shouldn't. Because here's the thing about Asher Roth: He is proof that hip-hop has won.

For years, detractors have tried to pass off hip-hop as music made "by a people for a people." This is terrible, and it sort of makes my head hurt, because it's simply not true. I grew up in the suburbs of Orlando, Florida, and I knew plenty of white kids who bought nothing but hip-hop, who lived, breathed and ate it, despite never having witnessed one-tenth-of-one-thousandth of the stuff N.W.A or Biggie were talking about. There has also been an oft-quoted mystery statistic that says "70 percent of people who buy rap music are white," though it's never really been verified and is perhaps best left alone. Because, now, thanks to Asher Roth, we don't need shady statistics. We have definitive proof: Hip-hop is the soundtrack to suburbia.

He is the living, breathing example of 21st-century hip-hop culture. He grew up in the kind of place where — conventional wisdom goes — rap music dare not tread. And yet, here he is: a lanky, college-educated white kid who not only discovered the music, but ditched school to pursue a career in it and somehow ended up under the tutelage of Steve Rifkind, the dude responsible for the careers of the Wu-Tang Clan and Mobb Deep.

And this has less to do with the fact that Roth is white — a hurdle that doesn't seem to exist in the wake of Eminem — as it does with the fact that he is unapologetic about who he is and where he's from. Unlike Em, who Roth is rather lazily compared to (although, yes, the two do sound alike), Asher grew up in idyllic conditions. He did not have to battle and scrap to earn his stripes. He did not have to fight for credibility. There was no hustling or grinding. Basically, Roth just went to college. What you see is what you get.

He makes no attempts to boost his street cred or add dramatic, "Scarface"-ish flourishes to his upbringing. He's a suburban kid who fell in love with hip-hop — just like millions upon millions of other suburban kids. The rest — the attention, the hit, the fame — just sort of happened. And this is important, because if we are to really believe that hip-hop has conquered the world, has invaded every crevice of our culture, then we need to realize that rappers can be born anywhere. There is not a manual, there is not a "build-your-own" MC kit. Stuff like background and credibility and machismo don't matter one bit. Talent does.

And Roth is plenty talented. So much so that he seems to go out of his way to hide his gifts. He peppers his deft lyrical touches with boner jokes, litters the colorful stories he spins with weed references and odes to intoxication (this is basically "I Love College"). If anything, he's trying very hard to hide behind the whole "stoned roommate" shtick, for reasons not really clear to me (except that maybe he really is someone's stoned roommate).

After I saw him last week at South by Southwest, I wrote that "there's no denying that Roth was the biggest star ... by a mile. Whether or not he chooses to seize the opportunities available to him remains to be seen." Having thought about him for a few days since, I still believe that to be true. But perhaps he doesn't have a choice in the matter. He needs to seize those opportunities, because he's also carrying the entire future of hip-hop on his skinny little shoulders. He's the Hip-Hop Goodwill Ambassador, and he has to succeed.

Source: MTV

Witty Qwan · 03-25-2009, 10:17 AM

asher is dat wigga...at least he dont rap about killing like em

Wesey · 03-25-2009, 10:53 AM

thats one of the realest news articles i've read about a rapper in a while. Asher Roth is that dude who you can imagine kicking it with and be 100% cool, he keeps it real and this is whats needed. Hes a real breath of fresh air to music in general.

Jack Frost · 03-25-2009, 11:47 AM

asher roth is ayt. even if i'm a fan of the aggressive type of hip hop, his songs are ayt.

Wshh_Mastermind · 03-25-2009, 12:26 PM

HES PROOF OF WHAT ...ARE U SERIOUS...lmfao......he made 1 good song...thats it...u act like hes a superstar already

ny718 · 03-25-2009, 01:34 PM

I aint a fan of his but I hope he do his thing...

Precinct Phantom · 03-25-2009, 03:02 PM

he's a rapper i can relate to, im not a GANGSTARRRRR but hip hops been ther 4 me since 03 when i got into it!
Think he's omething unique and different, fuk it, he's heavy!

Wshh_Mastermind · 03-25-2009, 03:04 PM

^^ yea we can relate but...is his album gonna be good.....

YoungGunna · 03-25-2009, 03:07 PM

lol fck outtahere....dudes iight but all these new cats is gettin overated like fuck

shade4tee5 · 03-25-2009, 03:18 PM

im white and i think hes shitty

EZ Early · 03-25-2009, 03:28 PM

this article is complete bullshit. When you have m.cs like mos def talib kwali black thought. And you wanna talk about a generic eminem smfh

LadyValentine · 03-25-2009, 03:32 PM

Jeez, can the media stop shoving this guy down my neck for one second. Let his album actually come out first and we'll see what it is.

LawrenceSouljah · 03-25-2009, 03:34 PM

He good, and he's comin' from a new direction. But if he's to achieve longevity, he's got to expand his content beyond college, cuz you can't stay in college forever. Maybe make songs about gettin' a job for fucked up bosses.

Witty Qwan · 03-25-2009, 06:12 PM

sure theres better mc's out there....but there's a difference between a mc and a artist...he's an artist not a mixtape rapper or one of those dude dat putz out albums and cant really make a hit....soulja boy is a great artist, he makes hitz...i fuckz with asher, he rapz about stuff from a different viewpoint and keep it 100...and he's not bad with the lyrics (he's actually pretty good) unlike dudes dat come up with shit like the stanky leg...

Smithilberry · 03-25-2009, 06:20 PM

why does everyone always forget about the beastie boys!?!??

they really dont ever get enough credit!!!!!

yea, i love eminem, but he wasnt the first white dude on the hip hop scene... the beastie boys were!!

n they were never rappin bout gangsta stuff either... they were rappin bout girls, weed, drinkin, partyin, rockin mics, n that type a shit...

same goes for Em for like his first 2-3 albums altho he did talk about killin n bugged out shit, but deff not hustlin n bein gangsta, nah meen!?

whatever, i just sayin

anyways, back to the main point of the thread: asher roth is average, nothin special, i dont dig him much, to me hes overrated, n theres way too much emphasis on his skin color... but in the end, i do hope his albums good n he makes some dope music for us to listen to...

TheMadWriter · 03-25-2009, 06:28 PM

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He raps about goofy things like Teddy Ruxpin and pizza, he doesn't have a thuggish bone in his body, and his lyrics have the depth of a kiddie pool.

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And Roth is plenty talented. So much so that he seems to go out of his way to hide his gifts. He peppers his deft lyrical touches with boner jokes, litters the colorful stories he spins with weed references and odes to intoxication (this is basically "I Love College").

Lol...

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And this has less to do with the fact that Roth is white

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For years, detractors have tried to pass off hip-hop as music made "by a people for a people." This is terrible, and it sort of makes my head hurt, because it's simply not true. I grew up in the suburbs of Orlando, Florida, and I knew plenty of white kids who bought nothing but hip-hop, who lived, breathed and ate it, despite never having witnessed one-tenth-of-one-thousandth of the stuff N.W.A or Biggie were talking about. There has also been an oft-quoted mystery statistic that says "70 percent of people who buy rap music are white," though it's never really been verified and is perhaps best left alone. Because, now, thanks to Asher Roth, we don't need shady statistics. We have definitive proof: Hip-hop is the soundtrack to suburbia.

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He is the living, breathing example of 21st-century hip-hop culture. He grew up in the kind of place where — conventional wisdom goes — rap music dare not tread. And yet, here he is: a lanky, college-educated white kid who not only discovered the music, but ditched school to pursue a career in it and somehow ended up under the tutelage of Steve Rifkind, the dude responsible for the careers of the Wu-Tang Clan and Mobb Deep.

No hate on Roth or anything, but I write for my school newspaper (take it for what it is, a majority of what i've learned about objective writing and even editorials is significant to the journalism world today) and i'm sure one thing that's not encouraged is contradiction. Much respect to J Banks for finding the article, but in my opinion there are a few things that could be changed to better this overall. Perhaps journalistically, the mental portion of it (what this guy is trying to get across overall) needs to be looked over. Maybe rethought. Good article either way, i'm an aspiring author so i'm sure I have the right to put in my two cents as far as the writing's concerned.

Witty Qwan · 03-25-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithilberry

why does everyone always forget about the beastie boys!?!??

they really dont ever get enough credit!!!!!

yea, i love eminem, but he wasnt the first white dude on the hip hop scene... the beastie boys were!!

n they were never rappin bout gangsta stuff either... they were rappin bout girls, weed, drinkin, partyin, rockin mics, n that type a shit...

same goes for Em for like his first 2-3 albums altho he did talk about killin n bugged out shit, but deff not hustlin n bein gangsta, nah meen!?

whatever, i just sayin

anyways, back to the main point of the thread: asher roth is average, nothin special, i dont dig him much, to me hes overrated, n theres way too much emphasis on his skin color... but in the end, i do hope his albums good n he makes some dope music for us to listen to...

i should neg your ass for saying dat....Asher is god

an....fuck da beastie boyz...they just were the first commercial white rappers so they got overrated...n em do talk gangsta and say stuff that passes the border line of homo...ima em fan...but i didnt see him fire a shot in 8 mile...

Hakaroodi · 03-25-2009, 07:55 PM

i like his approach he's style - he is one of the few rappers that can actually 'freestyle' like on the spot and make it sick, jus like Em..

but not onli that - greenhouse effect is dope.. Lark on my Go Kart is sick as fuck.. dude got skills man.. watch out 4 him 4 real...

2Legit · 03-25-2009, 08:57 PM

man dont get me wrong. asher is ok i wont hate on him. but to say that hes like the future
face of hip hop? h-e-double hockey sticks no. even soulja boy(who i very much dislike),
admitted in an interview that hes NOT hip hop. look it up on youtube or somethin.
at least he recognizes that his music is NOT hip hop. so you wanna tell me that some
guy who has SOME skill and raps about college is the face of hip hop?? rappers
like Nas who i guess you could was a pioneer of hip hop didnt bust their ass
becoming AMAZING with their lyrics just so that some kid "straight outta suburbia"
could become the "new face of hip hop." i understand what the article is trying
to say when it comes to the topic about how many people from the suburban area
have become the main audience of rap. BUT, i really think whoever wrote the article
should REALLY rethink about the whole "new face of hip hop" thing.

Ed-ucation · 03-25-2009, 09:10 PM

I don,t really know him, but before giving him all the credit, we should drop an album before the media going on his dick.

T.Giddy · 03-25-2009, 09:35 PM

he has some songs that actually mean something other than drugs and hot ladies. im interested in hearin his album

JTC50C · 03-25-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shade4tee5

im white and i think hes shitty

did you even read the fucking article moron? Because had you, you would not have chosen to respond with that.

JTC50C · 03-25-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMadWriter

Lol...

No hate on Roth or anything, but I write for my school newspaper (take it for what it is, a majority of what i've learned about objective writing and even editorials is significant to the journalism world today) and i'm sure one thing that's not encouraged is contradiction. Much respect to J Banks for finding the article, but in my opinion there are a few things that could be changed to better this overall. Perhaps journalistically, the mental portion of it (what this guy is trying to get across overall) needs to be looked over. Maybe rethought. Good article either way, i'm an aspiring author so i'm sure I have the right to put in my two cents as far as the writing's concerned.

Yes, you are right......in a journalism forum. This is a hiphop forum though. Respond to the topic at hand. That's hiphop, not journalism. Who the fuck cares about your "two cents" on the articles structure and purpose. You just come off as pretentious and irrelevant.

And journalistically, you critiqued that article like a fucking retard. A 101 class doesn't qualify you to represent the Journalistic Community. Additionally, where do you feel you have the experience and portfolio to critique a published, clearly successful journalist. He's working for MTV. You're an "aspiring AUTHOR!!!" You don't even use the right damn title of your 'aspiring' career! You want to be a fucking author?? Write a book. FYI: I'm a Journalism & Print Media Major as well. (But it sounds like you are most likely in high school.)

JTC50C · 03-25-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EZ Early

this article is complete bullshit. When you have m.cs like mos def talib kwali black thought. And you wanna talk about a generic eminem smfh

you mention MCs from a previous generation. I'm sorry if you are just now discovering those guys but each of them have been around for easily 10+ yrs. Asher (and the various other over-hyped new guys like B.o.B. aka Bobby Ray, Mickey Factz or Charles Hamilton) are a new generation. I love the artists mentioned tremendously but Kane had to make way for Jay, know what I'm saying??

TheMadWriter · 03-26-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JTC50C

Yes, you are right......in a journalism forum. This is a hiphop forum though. Respond to the topic at hand. That's hiphop, not journalism. Who the fuck cares about your "two cents" on the articles structure and purpose. You just come off as pretentious and irrelevant.

And journalistically, you critiqued that article like a fucking retard. A 101 class doesn't qualify you to represent the Journalistic Community. Additionally, where do you feel you have the experience and portfolio to critique a published, clearly successful journalist. He's working for MTV. You're an "aspiring AUTHOR!!!" You don't even use the right damn title of your 'aspiring' career! You want to be a fucking author?? Write a book. FYI: I'm a Journalism & Print Media Major as well. (But it sounds like you are most likely in high school.)

^^^^^^^^^

You're right, because making two paragraphs ranting about about my post isn't pretentious at all. I havn't seen you post anything ABOUT the article at all, you're just on your period and shit bitching about other people's post. Get the FUCK outta heerrrreee! Lmao.

And yes, if I wanted to be a journalist i'd say 'aspiring' journalist but since I don't I said author because I want to write BOOKS. Yes, I can read. Don't be an asshole (rofl). And no, i'm not in a hurry to write a book. Why would I want to jump into my primary career without something to fall back on? I'll finish college then attempt a writing career. And one more thing.

Shut the fuck up.

03-25-2009, 09:31 AM	#1
J-Banks Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 21,015 Repped: 5,294 Repped 53,425 Times in 7,839 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Neg Reps: 53 Neg Repped at 93 Times in 86 Posts	Asher Roth Is Proof That Hip-Hop Has Won Asher Roth Is Proof That Hip-Hop Has Won Asher Roth Is Proof That Hip-Hop Has Won MC is the living, breathing example of 21st-century hip-hop culture, in Bigger Than the Sound. Asher Roth is a translucent MC from the suburbs of Pennsylvania who grew up listening to the Dave Matthews Band, enrolled in West Chester University with the idea of pursuing a career in elementary education and dresses like it's eternally laundry day. He raps about weed and MILFs and beer pong. He is sort of like the hip-hop equivalent of CollegeHumor.com None of those things are the thing about Asher Roth, though I suspect all of them have something to do with what happens whenever I ask real hip-hop fans and critics about him — they sort of get quiet, kind of look at the ground and mutter something like, "Yeah ... he's ... yeah." Roth is basically everything these people are supposed to despise about hip-hop today. By his own admission, he has very little street credibility, and he has paid very few dues, yet he already has a crossover hit and has been the subject of several dozen "Next Big Things" pieces (including our MCs to Watch series). He raps about goofy things like Teddy Ruxpin and pizza, he doesn't have a thuggish bone in his body, and his lyrics have the depth of a kiddie pool. And yet none of those things should really matter. Because no matter how hard people want to hate Asher Roth, no matter how quick people are to dismiss him as some sort of bed-headed media construct, they really shouldn't. Because here's the thing about Asher Roth: He is proof that hip-hop has won. For years, detractors have tried to pass off hip-hop as music made "by a people for a people." This is terrible, and it sort of makes my head hurt, because it's simply not true. I grew up in the suburbs of Orlando, Florida, and I knew plenty of white kids who bought nothing but hip-hop, who lived, breathed and ate it, despite never having witnessed one-tenth-of-one-thousandth of the stuff N.W.A or Biggie were talking about. There has also been an oft-quoted mystery statistic that says "70 percent of people who buy rap music are white," though it's never really been verified and is perhaps best left alone. Because, now, thanks to Asher Roth, we don't need shady statistics. We have definitive proof: Hip-hop is the soundtrack to suburbia. He is the living, breathing example of 21st-century hip-hop culture. He grew up in the kind of place where — conventional wisdom goes — rap music dare not tread. And yet, here he is: a lanky, college-educated white kid who not only discovered the music, but ditched school to pursue a career in it and somehow ended up under the tutelage of Steve Rifkind, the dude responsible for the careers of the Wu-Tang Clan and Mobb Deep. And this has less to do with the fact that Roth is white — a hurdle that doesn't seem to exist in the wake of Eminem — as it does with the fact that he is unapologetic about who he is and where he's from. Unlike Em, who Roth is rather lazily compared to (although, yes, the two do sound alike), Asher grew up in idyllic conditions. He did not have to battle and scrap to earn his stripes. He did not have to fight for credibility. There was no hustling or grinding. Basically, Roth just went to college. What you see is what you get. He makes no attempts to boost his street cred or add dramatic, "Scarface"-ish flourishes to his upbringing. He's a suburban kid who fell in love with hip-hop — just like millions upon millions of other suburban kids. The rest — the attention, the hit, the fame — just sort of happened. And this is important, because if we are to really believe that hip-hop has conquered the world, has invaded every crevice of our culture, then we need to realize that rappers can be born anywhere. There is not a manual, there is not a "build-your-own" MC kit. Stuff like background and credibility and machismo don't matter one bit. Talent does. And Roth is plenty talented. So much so that he seems to go out of his way to hide his gifts. He peppers his deft lyrical touches with boner jokes, litters the colorful stories he spins with weed references and odes to intoxication (this is basically "I Love College"). If anything, he's trying very hard to hide behind the whole "stoned roommate" shtick, for reasons not really clear to me (except that maybe he really is someone's stoned roommate). After I saw him last week at South by Southwest, I wrote that "there's no denying that Roth was the biggest star ... by a mile. Whether or not he chooses to seize the opportunities available to him remains to be seen." Having thought about him for a few days since, I still believe that to be true. But perhaps he doesn't have a choice in the matter. He needs to seize those opportunities, because he's also carrying the entire future of hip-hop on his skinny little shoulders. He's the Hip-Hop Goodwill Ambassador, and he has to succeed. Source: MTV __________________ JBanksblog.com - check it out __________________

03-25-2009, 11:47 AM	#4
Jack Frost Natural Born Killah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,144 Repped: 145 Repped 125 Times in 51 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 7 Posts	asher roth is ayt. even if i'm a fan of the aggressive type of hip hop, his songs are ayt. __________________ Shady, Aftermath & G unit all day. fuck the haters!

03-25-2009, 12:26 PM	#5
Wshh_Mastermind WorldStarHipHop.Com Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Worldstarhiphop.com Posts: 1,744 Repped: 598 Repped 727 Times in 122 Posts Neg Reps: 12 Neg Repped at 13 Times in 9 Posts	HES PROOF OF WHAT ...ARE U SERIOUS...lmfao......he made 1 good song...thats it...u act like hes a superstar already __________________ http://hhboard.ihiphop.com/movies/425526-kill-record-labels-dvd-1-link-mu-new-post.html

03-25-2009, 03:02 PM	#7
Precinct Phantom Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Lincoln Posts: 1,229 Repped: 282 Repped 125 Times in 95 Posts Neg Reps: 2 Neg Repped at 22 Times in 20 Posts	he's a rapper i can relate to, im not a GANGSTARRRRR but hip hops been ther 4 me since 03 when i got into it! Think he's omething unique and different, fuk it, he's heavy! __________________ Links you need to checkout: myspace.com/precinctphantom myspace.com/grandangel510 myspace.com/macwasey

03-25-2009, 03:04 PM	#8
Wshh_Mastermind WorldStarHipHop.Com Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Worldstarhiphop.com Posts: 1,744 Repped: 598 Repped 727 Times in 122 Posts Neg Reps: 12 Neg Repped at 13 Times in 9 Posts	^^ yea we can relate but...is his album gonna be good..... __________________ http://hhboard.ihiphop.com/movies/425526-kill-record-labels-dvd-1-link-mu-new-post.html

03-25-2009, 10:17 AM	#2
Witty Qwan # Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My crib Posts: 3,050 Repped: 155 Repped 483 Times in 311 Posts Neg Reps: 21 Neg Repped at 82 Times in 75 Posts	asher is dat wigga...at least he dont rap about killing like em

03-25-2009, 10:53 AM	#3
Wesey Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 357 Repped: 12 Repped 57 Times in 28 Posts Neg Reps: 2 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 8 Posts	thats one of the realest news articles i've read about a rapper in a while. Asher Roth is that dude who you can imagine kicking it with and be 100% cool, he keeps it real and this is whats needed. Hes a real breath of fresh air to music in general.

03-25-2009, 01:34 PM	#6
ny718 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 122 Repped: 4 Repped 9 Times in 6 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 12 Times in 6 Posts	I aint a fan of his but I hope he do his thing...

03-25-2009, 03:07 PM	#9
YoungGunna Young Gunna Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: T Dot Posts: 11,079 Repped: 348 Repped 128 Times in 87 Posts Neg Reps: 33 Neg Repped at 7 Times in 7 Posts	lol fck outtahere....dudes iight but all these new cats is gettin overated like fuck __________________

03-25-2009, 03:18 PM	#10
shade4tee5 The Hype Is Real! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,266 Repped: 308 Repped 105 Times in 40 Posts Neg Reps: 292 Neg Repped at 31 Times in 26 Posts	im white and i think hes shitty __________________ Y'all forgot who helped 50 Cent pop? I ain't spent my own money since Eminem dropped. - Dr. Dre "yeah i am gay and i like Two men doing 69" - Raskae

03-25-2009, 03:28 PM	#11
EZ Early Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Atlanta Ga Posts: 138 Repped: 5 Repped 62 Times in 28 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 16 Times in 10 Posts	this article is complete bullshit. When you have m.cs like mos def talib kwali black thought. And you wanna talk about a generic eminem smfh

03-25-2009, 03:32 PM	#12
LadyValentine Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Throw A TV At You Crazy Posts: 3,948 Repped: 82 Repped 1,918 Times in 381 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 36 Times in 31 Posts	Jeez, can the media stop shoving this guy down my neck for one second. Let his album actually come out first and we'll see what it is. __________________ Why In The Hell Would You Let Your Fingers Type Such Absurdity? - Me

03-25-2009, 03:34 PM	#13
LawrenceSouljah Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,200 Repped: 698 Repped 147 Times in 88 Posts Neg Reps: 2 Neg Repped at 7 Times in 5 Posts	He good, and he's comin' from a new direction. But if he's to achieve longevity, he's got to expand his content beyond college, cuz you can't stay in college forever. Maybe make songs about gettin' a job for fucked up bosses. __________________ I see you using an old style, I wondered where you had learned it from. You know very well, it's yours too

03-25-2009, 06:12 PM	#14
Witty Qwan # Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: My crib Posts: 3,050 Repped: 155 Repped 483 Times in 311 Posts Neg Reps: 21 Neg Repped at 82 Times in 75 Posts	sure theres better mc's out there....but there's a difference between a mc and a artist...he's an artist not a mixtape rapper or one of those dude dat putz out albums and cant really make a hit....soulja boy is a great artist, he makes hitz...i fuckz with asher, he rapz about stuff from a different viewpoint and keep it 100...and he's not bad with the lyrics (he's actually pretty good) unlike dudes dat come up with shit like the stanky leg...

03-25-2009, 06:20 PM	#15
Smithilberry A.K.A. ZANY BLUNTS! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Qu€€n$ N€w ¥ø®k B!TcH€$! (718) Posts: 14,025 Repped: 2,081 Repped 1,228 Times in 670 Posts Neg Reps: 100 Neg Repped at 175 Times in 131 Posts	why does everyone always forget about the beastie boys!?!?? they really dont ever get enough credit!!!!! yea, i love eminem, but he wasnt the first white dude on the hip hop scene... the beastie boys were!! n they were never rappin bout gangsta stuff either... they were rappin bout girls, weed, drinkin, partyin, rockin mics, n that type a shit... same goes for Em for like his first 2-3 albums altho he did talk about killin n bugged out shit, but deff not hustlin n bein gangsta, nah meen!? whatever, i just sayin anyways, back to the main point of the thread: asher roth is average, nothin special, i dont dig him much, to me hes overrated, n theres way too much emphasis on his skin color... but in the end, i do hope his albums good n he makes some dope music for us to listen to... __________________ A.K.A. Master Sensei Zany Last edited by Smithilberry; 03-25-2009 at 06:23 PM.

03-25-2009, 07:55 PM	#18
Hakaroodi G-UNIT SOLDIER Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 30,516 Repped: 14,425 Repped 952 Times in 224 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 49 Times in 45 Posts	i like his approach he's style - he is one of the few rappers that can actually 'freestyle' like on the spot and make it sick, jus like Em.. but not onli that - greenhouse effect is dope.. Lark on my Go Kart is sick as fuck.. dude got skills man.. watch out 4 him 4 real... __________________

03-25-2009, 08:57 PM	#19
2Legit Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yo Girl's Crib Posts: 37 Repped: 0 Repped 1 Time in 1 Post Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	man dont get me wrong. asher is ok i wont hate on him. but to say that hes like the future face of hip hop? h-e-double hockey sticks no. even soulja boy(who i very much dislike), admitted in an interview that hes NOT hip hop. look it up on youtube or somethin. at least he recognizes that his music is NOT hip hop. so you wanna tell me that some guy who has SOME skill and raps about college is the face of hip hop?? rappers like Nas who i guess you could was a pioneer of hip hop didnt bust their ass becoming AMAZING with their lyrics just so that some kid "straight outta suburbia" could become the "new face of hip hop." i understand what the article is trying to say when it comes to the topic about how many people from the suburban area have become the main audience of rap. BUT, i really think whoever wrote the article should REALLY rethink about the whole "new face of hip hop" thing. __________________ "love aint nothin but a word, a chicken aint nothin but a bird" -Talib Kweli

03-25-2009, 09:10 PM	#20
Ed-ucation Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,083 Repped: 416 Repped 98 Times in 58 Posts Neg Reps: 5 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	I don,t really know him, but before giving him all the credit, we should drop an album before the media going on his dick. __________________

03-25-2009, 09:35 PM	#21
T.Giddy MuFucken Boss Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 4,238 Repped: 950 Repped 852 Times in 209 Posts Neg Reps: 21 Neg Repped at 28 Times in 24 Posts	he has some songs that actually mean something other than drugs and hot ladies. im interested in hearin his album __________________

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