Juelz Santana Shoots Back At Cam'ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split

Black Superman · 09-15-2008, 12:58 PM

By Tai Saint Louis

Weeks after it was first announced that Juelz Santana has been released from his obligations to Diplomats Records, the rapper is speaking candidly about the details behind the split.

During an interview with AllHipHop.com, Juelz revisited the situation, revealing that the details were not as Diplomat Records’ CEO Cam’ron had previously made them seem.

“I vowed not to say nothing bad about Cam ‘cause I felt like he did a lot for me,” Juelz Santana told AllHipHop.com. “But as far as him selling me, that s**t just sound stupid. I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years. He would never sell me. It was bad business, and I had to get out my contract. It’s so crazy to me that he’s still trying to make himself look good.

“It’s obvious what’s going on,” he continued. “You see everybody that’s a part of the movement still together but him.”

Juelz Santana said that he respected Cam’ron’s position as head of The Diplomats, but reiterated that bad business was the reason for his departure from the label, which distributed Juelz’ projects via Def Jam.

“It’s a line between loyalty and stupidity man, bottom line. And it’s gotta be drawn sometimes,” Santana told AllHipHop.com. “So as far as the fans, I hope they understand, that’s the realest quote I could give them.”

The statements come as Juelz Santana prepares to launch his first efforts as the latest rapper-turned-label head, introducing his stable of protégés via the release of Skull Gang Takeover: The New Movement To Move Wit.

The project will be available for free download starting next Friday (Sep 19).

The project will serve as an introduction to Skull Gang’s core members: rappers Richmond Rabb, John Depp, Unkasa and R&B singer/songwriter Starr.

Takeover also heavily features Juelz, who appears on every track on the project.

“I felt like the game needed something new just as much as they needed me right now, so I decided to give them both at the same time,” he explained. “I’m excited right now. Just as much as I’m excited for myself, I’m excited for my artists. I didn’t just put together artists that was around me. My team is really built based on talent. And, you know, I feel like we can only win. The music is strong, we just gotta execute the right way.”

Juelz is currently refocusing on his solo career as well.

The Skull Gang Takeover mixtape will be almost immediately followed by the Harlemite’s solo Regan Era mixtape, due out before the end of the year.

Both releases are paving the way for Juelz’ highly anticipated third studio album Born to Lose, Bred to Win, which he says will hit stores at the end of the year.

And although there’s some tension between the remaining Diplomats and Cam’ron, Juelz Santana remained loyal to an absentee Cam’ron.

“Me, Jim and Zeek is in the studio damn near every day,” says Juelz. “We wouldn’t be disrespectful and try to put out a Dip Set album without Cam. We just gon’ wait til he comes back. Nobody can find the third party though. What if your boss decides to say ‘I quit,’ you not gon’ work no more?”

ahh

PAUL CAINE · 09-15-2008, 01:22 PM

If you notice, its a split

hell rell, jr writer and 40 cal fuck wit cam

and juelz, jimmy and zeek fuck wit each other

raj___ · 09-15-2008, 01:35 PM

biggest in new york? hell nawwww

Bareda · 09-15-2008, 01:57 PM

Rofl @ Biggest in New York.

xDizzex · 09-15-2008, 02:00 PM

hahaha what a joke

Juelz next album 9/10 will flop...and that Skull Gang snippets are wack

but yeah I'm waiting on Cam to speak out..and how was he loyal to Cam when he got on stage with 50...like I said a joke

Tha Unit On Top · 09-15-2008, 03:24 PM

I like Juelz, but he the biggest artist in NY right now? WTF? And I respect how he handled that Cam shit, he said Cam did alot for him so he aint want to say bad shit about him, thats how a real dude handles shit.

GMNRecordsCT3 · 09-15-2008, 04:29 PM

damn where the fuk is Cam?? he seem like he doin his own thing right now...

kingstyles3764 · 09-15-2008, 04:31 PM

cam got some bitch ways, fucked up cuz i was down with his music, but even though he gave juelz his start juelz will lyrically crush him easily, him and jim dont need cam, they got bigger deals, sony and def jam,..... what label is cam on????? is it koch or asylum or somthin, someone tell me cuz i forgot

kingstyles3764 · 09-15-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAUL CAINE

If you notice, its a split

hell rell, jr writer and 40 cal fuck wit cam

and juelz, jimmy and zeek fuck wit each other

word, hope they dont team up and beef with each other, the only ones i fuck wit are hell rell, juelz, and jr, cam alright but he been bitch type lately

Yb187 · 09-15-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAUL CAINE

If you notice, its a split

hell rell, jr writer and 40 cal fuck wit cam

and juelz, jimmy and zeek fuck wit each other

no doubt man thats what it is, but the top half is way better then the bottom half

~Stunt 101~ · 09-16-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAUL CAINE

If you notice, its a split

hell rell, jr writer and 40 cal fuck wit cam

and juelz, jimmy and zeek fuck wit each other

no homo b??

Ed-ucation · 09-21-2008, 02:46 PM

I like Santana, but he ain't the biggest of N-Y. Just hope is new material will be something good

09-15-2008, 12:58 PM	#1
Black Superman Show Time Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,588 Repped: 259 Repped 5,423 Times in 619 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 9 Posts	Juelz Santana Shoots Back At Cam'ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split Juelz Santana Shoots Back At Cam'ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split By Tai Saint Louis Weeks after it was first announced that Juelz Santana has been released from his obligations to Diplomats Records, the rapper is speaking candidly about the details behind the split. During an interview with AllHipHop.com, Juelz revisited the situation, revealing that the details were not as Diplomat Records’ CEO Cam’ron had previously made them seem. “I vowed not to say nothing bad about Cam ‘cause I felt like he did a lot for me,” Juelz Santana told AllHipHop.com. “But as far as him selling me, that s**t just sound stupid. I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years. He would never sell me. It was bad business, and I had to get out my contract. It’s so crazy to me that he’s still trying to make himself look good. “It’s obvious what’s going on,” he continued. “You see everybody that’s a part of the movement still together but him.” Juelz Santana said that he respected Cam’ron’s position as head of The Diplomats, but reiterated that bad business was the reason for his departure from the label, which distributed Juelz’ projects via Def Jam. “It’s a line between loyalty and stupidity man, bottom line. And it’s gotta be drawn sometimes,” Santana told AllHipHop.com. “So as far as the fans, I hope they understand, that’s the realest quote I could give them.” The statements come as Juelz Santana prepares to launch his first efforts as the latest rapper-turned-label head, introducing his stable of protégés via the release of Skull Gang Takeover: The New Movement To Move Wit. The project will be available for free download starting next Friday (Sep 19). The project will serve as an introduction to Skull Gang’s core members: rappers Richmond Rabb, John Depp, Unkasa and R&B singer/songwriter Starr. Takeover also heavily features Juelz, who appears on every track on the project. “I felt like the game needed something new just as much as they needed me right now, so I decided to give them both at the same time,” he explained. “I’m excited right now. Just as much as I’m excited for myself, I’m excited for my artists. I didn’t just put together artists that was around me. My team is really built based on talent. And, you know, I feel like we can only win. The music is strong, we just gotta execute the right way.” Juelz is currently refocusing on his solo career as well. The Skull Gang Takeover mixtape will be almost immediately followed by the Harlemite’s solo Regan Era mixtape, due out before the end of the year. Both releases are paving the way for Juelz’ highly anticipated third studio album Born to Lose, Bred to Win, which he says will hit stores at the end of the year. And although there’s some tension between the remaining Diplomats and Cam’ron, Juelz Santana remained loyal to an absentee Cam’ron. “Me, Jim and Zeek is in the studio damn near every day,” says Juelz. “We wouldn’t be disrespectful and try to put out a Dip Set album without Cam. We just gon’ wait til he comes back. Nobody can find the third party though. What if your boss decides to say ‘I quit,’ you not gon’ work no more?” ahh __________________ HH Board's Top 5 or Better... Who Hotter Than Me? HIT DA REP OR CLICK THE GREEN

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raj___ UK Stand Up Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shottingham, UK Posts: 145 Repped: 2 Repped 155 Times in 20 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	biggest in new york? hell nawwww __________________ I leave with any panties I want/the industries new face/i'm in a bitch mouth everymorning like toothpaste

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Ed-ucation Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,083 Repped: 416 Repped 98 Times in 58 Posts Neg Reps: 5 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	I like Santana, but he ain't the biggest of N-Y. Just hope is new material will be something good __________________

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Bareda Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 5,867 Repped: 487 Repped 751 Times in 218 Posts Neg Reps: 57 Neg Repped at 46 Times in 42 Posts	Rofl @ Biggest in New York.

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xDizzex Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OWWW! Posts: 2,135 Repped: 153 Repped 292 Times in 130 Posts Neg Reps: 28 Neg Repped at 128 Times in 101 Posts	hahaha what a joke Juelz next album 9/10 will flop...and that Skull Gang snippets are wack but yeah I'm waiting on Cam to speak out..and how was he loyal to Cam when he got on stage with 50...like I said a joke

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Tha Unit On Top BISD November 23rd Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,196 Repped: 640 Repped 2,457 Times in 353 Posts Neg Reps: 78 Neg Repped at 123 Times in 85 Posts	I like Juelz, but he the biggest artist in NY right now? WTF? And I respect how he handled that Cam shit, he said Cam did alot for him so he aint want to say bad shit about him, thats how a real dude handles shit.

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kingstyles3764 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: everywhere from the south to the east to the midwest, college is a trip Posts: 344 Repped: 40 Repped 15 Times in 13 Posts Neg Reps: 6 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	cam got some bitch ways, fucked up cuz i was down with his music, but even though he gave juelz his start juelz will lyrically crush him easily, him and jim dont need cam, they got bigger deals, sony and def jam,..... what label is cam on????? is it koch or asylum or somthin, someone tell me cuz i forgot

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