10/18/07 - Damon Dash Thinks Jay-Z's Single Lacks "Magic"

J-Banks · 10-18-2007, 02:34 PM

Damon Dash Thinks Jay-Z's Single Lacks "Magic," Hopes Former Ally Can Still "Bring The Ruckus"
Thursday - October 18, 2007

With Mr. Untouchable, the latest film being produced by Damon Dash Enterprises, landing in theatres later this month, Damon Dash spoke with SOHH exclusively about the legacy of Nicky Barnes, and his thoughts on American Gangster, both the film and former partner, Jay-Z's upcoming album.

Mr. Untouchable is the Marc Levin directed documentary about the rise and fall of Nicky Barnes, one of Harlem's biggest heroin dealers and most infamous informants. For Dash, a Harlem native, it is a legend he was raised on - and one he has worked for years to bring to the screen.

"Up until I was like 10 or 11, Nicky Barnes was the guy I wanted to be," Dash told SOHH. "He was the guy that had the car, the girls, the jewelry. He was arrogant, he had the swagger and that's really what Harlem is. Until he flipped, he was my hero."

Dash initially worked towards making a dramatized version of the film, procuring rights to the story first through David Breitbart, longtime Barnes attorney, then via Joseph "Jazz" Hayden, Barnes' former associate who has since become a political activist.

"I got the script written numerous amounts of times but black gangster flicks really don't check in Hollywood, so it's hard to get a studio to make it," Dash explained. "I was talking to Marc (Levin) about another project he was doing called OG and he was telling me he's about to do Nicky Barnes."

"Every other culture has their story, has their Goodfellas and their Casino, the Irish had it, the Italians get it, why can't we have it," Dash asked. "I don't want to glorify him because the majority of people I know from Harlem that heard I was doing anything to do with Nicky Barnes was like 'Yo, let him die! Do not bring him back to life because people might get the wrong message.' When I saw the way the documentary was you don't really love him, you understand him, but you don't love him - you actually hate him when you walk out."

Times are good for films about Harlem drug dealers, Ridley Scott's dramatized story of Barnes rival Frank Lucas, starring Denzel Washington, Common, T.I. and Russell Crowe, coincidently, is being released in November.

"Everybody wants to know what American Gangster is going to be," Dash said. "If that does well, it will open a lot of doors for us to do other things that kind of relate to the urban marketplace.

The film has already been praised by Dash's ex-business partner, Jay-Z who plans to release an album inspired by the movie next month.

"Every time I hear Jay-Z is making a record I get excited because I'm a fan of him as a rapper," Dash told SOHH. "But it's almost like when you hear [Michael] Jordan is coming back to the league, happy sad, like 'damn man, he's coming back but his knee is not the same!'" the business mogul told SOHH. "I hope he does a good job, I hope he comes back and does right by it."

"So yeah, it's typical. If Jay is gonna come back with that Reasonable Doubt @#!* let's do it," Dash continued. "I don't care, because overall I'm a fan, regardless of what he did and how he did it, but if he doesn't bring the ruckus and it's 'I'm getting it...' [mockingly reciting the chorus to Jay's new single "Blue Magic"], how would you feel? "

Mr. Untouchable hits theatres on October 26.

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Young Grand · 10-18-2007, 02:50 PM

"Props" The beat On blue Magic Was Hot The Song It Self Is Bunz.... And Dame Is Def Doin His Thing...........

igetmoney01 · 10-18-2007, 02:55 PM

haha dame is speakin the truth though

Hakaroodi · 10-18-2007, 02:57 PM

ight propz interestin.. Jay's both singles are tight but i dont think they'll get mad radioplay.. they ain' cut out for that they too hard i think..

jeezy68 · 10-18-2007, 03:08 PM

Haha he lyin! You know he don't want that nigga to do good! hahaha!

igetmoney01 · 10-18-2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeezy68

Haha he lyin! You know he don't want that nigga to do good! hahaha!

hahaha fuck jay !!!!!!

cloverg95 · 10-18-2007, 03:39 PM

everyone jumpin on jay now, his singles ain't shit but he prolly got a lot of shit, big fan of jay but don't like how he sayin he goin back to block and shit like that because he's farrrrr from ever coming close to his old block or any block

goothgone · 10-18-2007, 04:29 PM

this song is garbage

BLUE HFNER · 10-18-2007, 04:32 PM

blue magic is alright ,you just got tomlisten to what he says and the song Roc Boys is CraZy hot and he's going to release more songs to the public before his album drops,but he should make a video for Roc Boys because the song is sick and it needs raidio play!

THA WEATHA MAN · 10-18-2007, 04:49 PM

Song is aight, but i get bored of it 2 easily and shut it off.

Florida_Nigga · 10-18-2007, 05:06 PM

all ya nigga's have bad taste in mucic, blue magic, roc boys.... those tracks suck monkey ballz and ya like em, dumbest tracks i've heard this year and ya here dick rydin jay

WIKKIE_FONTANA · 10-18-2007, 05:26 PM

That Magic Shit Does Suck Balls

Ms. Coffey123 · 10-18-2007, 06:17 PM

He's right that song is not hot!

Firefly5 · 10-18-2007, 06:38 PM

That song is pure trash. SMH @ the radio DJs over here dickryding it.

LEGENDKILLERSSK · 10-18-2007, 07:33 PM

Im A Big Jay Fan, But Blue Magic Is A Terrible Song, My Goodness It Awful....i Need That Vol.3 And Blueprint Jay Back...those Albums Had The Magic

neomerge · 10-18-2007, 07:38 PM

Good to know that Dame doesn't totally hate Jay. End the beef already. I miss the old Roc.

Lyrical Menace · 10-18-2007, 08:38 PM

say wat u want but how many releases have came out from DDMG.. ??

justincredible19 · 10-18-2007, 09:02 PM

thats cool. i like to hear shit like this.

GMNRecordsCT32 · 10-19-2007, 09:15 AM

Jay lost his magic and his street cred when he separated from Dame

gunitworld50 · 10-19-2007, 11:00 AM

Dame is so lame.

Did you know he's releasing old Jay-Z albums that are gonna be remixes. Because that little lame can't sell anything himself.

The Maestro · 10-20-2007, 12:50 AM

and were did he go????

10-18-2007, 02:34 PM	#1
J-Banks Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 21,015 Repped: 5,294 Repped 53,425 Times in 7,839 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Neg Reps: 53 Neg Repped at 93 Times in 86 Posts	10/18/07 - Damon Dash Thinks Jay-Z's Single Lacks "Magic" 10/18/07 - Damon Dash Thinks Jay-Z's Single Lacks "Magic" Damon Dash Thinks Jay-Z's Single Lacks "Magic," Hopes Former Ally Can Still "Bring The Ruckus" Thursday - October 18, 2007 With Mr. Untouchable, the latest film being produced by Damon Dash Enterprises, landing in theatres later this month, Damon Dash spoke with SOHH exclusively about the legacy of Nicky Barnes, and his thoughts on American Gangster, both the film and former partner, Jay-Z's upcoming album. Mr. Untouchable is the Marc Levin directed documentary about the rise and fall of Nicky Barnes, one of Harlem's biggest heroin dealers and most infamous informants. For Dash, a Harlem native, it is a legend he was raised on - and one he has worked for years to bring to the screen. "Up until I was like 10 or 11, Nicky Barnes was the guy I wanted to be," Dash told SOHH. "He was the guy that had the car, the girls, the jewelry. He was arrogant, he had the swagger and that's really what Harlem is. Until he flipped, he was my hero." Dash initially worked towards making a dramatized version of the film, procuring rights to the story first through David Breitbart, longtime Barnes attorney, then via Joseph "Jazz" Hayden, Barnes' former associate who has since become a political activist. "I got the script written numerous amounts of times but black gangster flicks really don't check in Hollywood, so it's hard to get a studio to make it," Dash explained. "I was talking to Marc (Levin) about another project he was doing called OG and he was telling me he's about to do Nicky Barnes." "Every other culture has their story, has their Goodfellas and their Casino, the Irish had it, the Italians get it, why can't we have it," Dash asked. "I don't want to glorify him because the majority of people I know from Harlem that heard I was doing anything to do with Nicky Barnes was like 'Yo, let him die! Do not bring him back to life because people might get the wrong message.' When I saw the way the documentary was you don't really love him, you understand him, but you don't love him - you actually hate him when you walk out." Times are good for films about Harlem drug dealers, Ridley Scott's dramatized story of Barnes rival Frank Lucas, starring Denzel Washington, Common, T.I. and Russell Crowe, coincidently, is being released in November. "Everybody wants to know what American Gangster is going to be," Dash said. "If that does well, it will open a lot of doors for us to do other things that kind of relate to the urban marketplace. The film has already been praised by Dash's ex-business partner, Jay-Z who plans to release an album inspired by the movie next month. "Every time I hear Jay-Z is making a record I get excited because I'm a fan of him as a rapper," Dash told SOHH. "But it's almost like when you hear [Michael] Jordan is coming back to the league, happy sad, like 'damn man, he's coming back but his knee is not the same!'" the business mogul told SOHH. "I hope he does a good job, I hope he comes back and does right by it." "So yeah, it's typical. If Jay is gonna come back with that Reasonable Doubt @#!* let's do it," Dash continued. "I don't care, because overall I'm a fan, regardless of what he did and how he did it, but if he doesn't bring the ruckus and it's 'I'm getting it...' [mockingly reciting the chorus to Jay's new single "Blue Magic"], how would you feel? " Mr. Untouchable hits theatres on October 26. Source-sohh __________________ JBanksblog.com - check it out __________________

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Young Grand Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Groton Connecticut Posts: 66 Repped: 33 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Props" The beat On blue Magic Was Hot The Song It Self Is Bunz.... And Dame Is Def Doin His Thing........... __________________ "YoUnG GrAnD"

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igetmoney01 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: YO GIRLS HOUSE Posts: 2,730 Repped: 1,215 Repped 2,586 Times in 372 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Neg Reps: 17 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	haha dame is speakin the truth though __________________

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jeezy68 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 70 Repped: 15 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Haha he lyin! You know he don't want that nigga to do good! hahaha! __________________ C.Jeezy Baby

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cloverg95 Break Bread!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,458 Repped: 142 Repped 284 Times in 35 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	everyone jumpin on jay now, his singles ain't shit but he prolly got a lot of shit, big fan of jay but don't like how he sayin he goin back to block and shit like that because he's farrrrr from ever coming close to his old block or any block __________________ I Saw On Tv, This Man Lost His Son, His Son Died. So He Had Him Cremated, Took His Ashes And Made It Into A Diamond Ring. Now He Watch His Son Shine Everyday

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Hakaroodi G-UNIT SOLDIER Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 30,519 Repped: 14,428 Repped 952 Times in 224 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 49 Times in 45 Posts	ight propz interestin.. Jay's both singles are tight but i dont think they'll get mad radioplay.. they ain' cut out for that they too hard i think..

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goothgone Relapse = Dope Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal,QC Posts: 1,561 Repped: 979 Repped 185 Times in 93 Posts Neg Reps: 26 Neg Repped at 9 Times in 6 Posts	this song is garbage __________________

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BLUE HFNER LIL_BLUE HEFNER J.R™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 2,311 Repped: 529 Repped 2,493 Times in 193 Posts Neg Reps: 6 Neg Repped at 5 Times in 4 Posts	blue magic is alright ,you just got tomlisten to what he says and the song Roc Boys is CraZy hot and he's going to release more songs to the public before his album drops,but he should make a video for Roc Boys because the song is sick and it needs raidio play!

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THA WEATHA MAN Cud Make It Rain Or Snow Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Away From Home Posts: 7,500 Repped: 2,405 Repped 9,885 Times in 685 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 13 Times in 12 Posts	Song is aight, but i get bored of it 2 easily and shut it off. __________________ "I was taught wise, Im known to extort guys, this aint Cali, its Harlem nigga we do walkbys" -Big L

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Florida_Nigga ... Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lauderdale Posts: 755 Repped: 75 Repped 356 Times in 59 Posts Neg Reps: 12 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	all ya nigga's have bad taste in mucic, blue magic, roc boys.... those tracks suck monkey ballz and ya like em, dumbest tracks i've heard this year and ya here dick rydin jay

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WIKKIE_FONTANA FONTA IE 909 Join Date: May 2006 Location: FONTA,SUR CALIFAS Posts: 804 Repped: 94 Repped 233 Times in 34 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That Magic Shit Does Suck Balls

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Firefly5 Droppin' Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sacramento Posts: 4,103 Repped: 1,100 Repped 680 Times in 242 Posts Neg Reps: 57 Neg Repped at 22 Times in 20 Posts	That song is pure trash. SMH @ the radio DJs over here dickryding it.

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neomerge Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,664 Repped: 30 Repped 2,103 Times in 346 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 21 Times in 18 Posts	Good to know that Dame doesn't totally hate Jay. End the beef already. I miss the old Roc. __________________ WORDAP.NET

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Lyrical Menace Duh Nigga Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ima G Posts: 10,614 Repped: 3,504 Repped 482 Times in 90 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 5 Times in 5 Posts	say wat u want but how many releases have came out from DDMG.. ??

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justincredible19 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,193 Repped: 555 Repped 208 Times in 33 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	thats cool. i like to hear shit like this.

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GMNRecordsCT32 Back 2Biznass 11/05 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 704 Repped: 169 Repped 166 Times in 28 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jay lost his magic and his street cred when he separated from Dame __________________ myspace.com/bummydavis--soundclick.com/gmnproductions

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gunitworld50 Brainstorm Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: IN Posts: 2,722 Repped: 959 Repped 677 Times in 173 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 5 Times in 2 Posts	Dame is so lame. Did you know he's releasing old Jay-Z albums that are gonna be remixes. Because that little lame can't sell anything himself.

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