04/23/07 - Search for a Hip Hop Hitler: Did Killa Cam Kill Hip Hop?

Legendz · 04-23-2007, 03:27 PM

Search for a Hip Hop Hitler: Did Killa Cam Kill Hip Hop? by Min. Paul Scott

"Shots go off mothers cry, death since rise, homicide Black On Black crime needs to stop, Ya'll can't blame it on Hip Hop" - The Industry -Wyclef Jean

I could tell by the way the media were pumpin' up the Cam'ron 60 minutes interview days prior to the airing that this wasn't going to be one of Hip Hop's stellar moments.

With Hip Hop already under fire in the Don Imus aftermath, which was only eclipsed by the VA Tech murders, America needed a new bad guy; a Hip Hop Hitler to point to as the source of all of America's problems...Enter Cameron Giles.....

Let's face it. It was ill advised, (or for the less politically suave, down right dumb) for Cam to say that he wouldn't turn in a serial killer livin' in the crib next to his, while Ethel Lou in Topeka was still shook from the story about the Virginia Tech shooter.

However, in reality it was a set up that stank to high heaven. White America needed a new mainstream poster child to blame for the deterioration of America's moral values and Cam'ron gave it to them, signed, sealed delivered and decorated with a golden eagle medallion.

Historically, America has always needed a black boogey man, a sacrificial lamb on whose back all the sins of the world could be placed.

If you look back at the Civil Rights Era, when Rev. Martin Luther King was leading his march to bring attention to racial/economic injustice in Memphis, the media focus was not on the smooth talkin' dude in the nice suit but on a gang of paid off ruffians called the Invaders who allegedly wrecked havoc on innocent bystanders. This served as evidence that segregation was indeed justified because Black folks were not quite civilized enough to eat a hot stack of pancakes at Howard Johnson's.

Things became increasingly worst in the late 80's as white folks went from trying to segregate a swimming pool to trying to segregate an entire ocean at Virginia Beach. The cause of the problem was not discrimination. No, according to the press, the real problem was that black college kids were shattering the plaster in Biff and Britney's summer cottage with their darn "ghetto" blasters...

During the early 90's, I remember how the video tape of Rodney King being brutalized by the LAPD was replaced by Reginald Denny getting a mediaeval beat down by a four man army of "street thugs." And no, the "rioters" in LA were not making political statements about systematic socio-economic inequalities; they were just monsters on a blood thirsty rampage fueled by NWA lyrics and St. Ides Malt Liquor.

Things have remained the same in the 21st century. Back in 2005, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the questions about broken levees and government coverups were drowned out by America's outrage over black thugz stealing wide screen TV sets from washed out department stores. And since they didn't have any electricity the thugz spent their afternoons target practicing at helicopters that were trying to deliver food and medical supplies to storm victims.

For those with long term memory disorders, they need only think back to last winter when the outrage over Michael "Kramer" Richards dropping all those N bombs quickly switched to a national debate over why Black folks call their homies the "N" word.

This brings us to the Imus "nappy headed ho" fiasco, where the news clips of a deranged looking cowboy who looked like he had one too many shots of Jack Daniels were replaced with clips of Snoop Dogg giving his deep intellectual insight into the various degrees of "ho-ism"

So that brings us up to 4/22/07 and the Cam interview, where the talking heads have just discovered that not only don't rappers "love dem ho's" they ain't got no love for the Po Po's either. What is odd is that they did not once mention that the genesis of the distrust of the police is not based on a rap lyric but rooted in decades of Jim Crow-isms, COINTELPRO and numerous cases of mistaken identity and driving while black. Did they once mention that the Sean Bell shooting was maybe just enough to make Black folks believe that the Officer Friendly from their kindergarten coloring books wasn't so friendly after all?

Although Hip Hop has been pretty resilient over the years as it has been a consistent cheddar producing cash cow for phat cats from Park Ave to Rodeo Drive, based on the current political climate as Moe Dee told LL back in tha Day "this be the death blow."

Now, I am far from a Hip Hop apologist but I know a set up when I see one. And you can best believe that the "Hip Hop" question will be the source of endless political debates between now and the next election.

What America will never admit is that ultimately, Hip Hop is not the problem, racism is. And if you get rid of racism today, the "N" word and all things associated would be gone tomorrow.

To portray all Hip Hop artists as members of some Third Reich is ludicrous. Although some of the major record label owners may bear some resemblance to the evil master of propaganda, Adolf Hitler, "da 50 Cent" is not "der Fuhrer."

TRUTH Minista Paul Scott represents the Messianic Afrikan Nation in Durham NC. He can be reached at

(919) 451-8283

email minpaulscott@yahoo.com

CHOSEN ONE · 04-23-2007, 03:53 PM

and we wonda why hip hop is unda attack everytime.cause of supid niggaz lik cam

BrebYayo · 04-23-2007, 03:55 PM

i think someone posted this already...but propz anyway...and fuc cam'ron!!!!!!

ComptonsKid · 04-23-2007, 03:58 PM

fuck camron??? fuck society for blaming this shit someone (cam) or something (hip-hop) that has nothing to do with its serious disfunctions and problems

Tha Truth · 04-23-2007, 04:03 PM

thanks camron asshole

Desert Eagle · 04-23-2007, 04:07 PM

2 long for me 2 bother readin
title is amusing tho

young future · 04-23-2007, 04:30 PM

i watched it it wasn't that bad considering it was cam but he did throw shots at 50 on the sneak

THA WEATHA MAN · 04-23-2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComptonsKid

fuck camron??? fuck society for blaming this shit someone (cam) or something (hip-hop) that has nothing to do with its serious disfunctions and problems

Co-Sign.....

MR.FACEOFF · 04-23-2007, 04:40 PM

good post. finally some substance.

Snapper · 04-23-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Eagle

2 long for me 2 bother readin
title is amusing tho

lol co sign

BUSHWICK PURE · 04-23-2007, 04:45 PM

I Told Ya Shots Wold Be Thrown In This Interview......lol Cam A Fuckn Retard

homicideinthehood · 04-23-2007, 04:59 PM

Stupid nigga Cameron . he cant be a rapper man , he was just lucky to get on fif's dick ..for real
he is no comparison with fif nor the unit ... i ain't hater but please let face the facts ..
Cameron a clown lucky enough to be in the game for real

The Legend · 04-23-2007, 05:08 PM

anyone who blames this on cam is an idiot. And to the person who said Cam doesn't belong in the game, u gotta learn ur rap history. Rap musice didn't start with Get Rich or Die Tryin' in fact, that is a fairly recent album. Cam was put on by Big L (top 5 greatest rappers of all time), so that means he must have seen somethin in him. And Cam's first to albums were very good, and also sold well. I'll admit recentley he hasn't been on point, but to say he shouldn't be in the game is retarded

homicideinthehood · 04-23-2007, 05:18 PM

If he is put on by Big L it doesnt mean he is good , let's face the facts here even fif put on loads of people out there but we cant just say everyone fif put out he doing great .. ,everyone is listeing here , everyone knows what sort of material can cam put out , look at 40 glocc, new member hot rod, nyce these people can kill his ass,
I aint hater i totally support nay artist out here who makes good music ,including Game he is good rapper you need to agree , but cam please homie ............he is RIP

Fabuless · 04-23-2007, 05:18 PM

way to go cam'ron

nah just playin..they cant blame a nations problems on one type of music..or more importantly on 1 guy

its Eminem's fault

Baller · 04-23-2007, 05:27 PM

horrible thread.........

RussianBanger · 04-23-2007, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabuless

way to go cam'ron

nah just playin..they cant blame a nations problems on one type of music..or more importantly on 1 guy

its Eminem's fault

its NWA fault, they started the gangsta rap! stupid bullies!

Mail Man · 04-23-2007, 05:42 PM

can any one post the interview

Thewrecker1ne · 04-23-2007, 05:44 PM

What cam say bout fif in that interview

kevin413 · 04-23-2007, 05:46 PM

didnt read it 2 long but cam'ron is a garbage rapper so wateva

MS DIOR · 04-23-2007, 06:07 PM

cam just needs to stfu

g_u_s1 · 04-23-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussianBanger

its NWA fault, they started the gangsta rap! stupid bullies!

what in the fuck are you talking about "NWA's Fault" if anything they gave hip-hop the push that it needed at that time you wouldn't have half the rappers out here today if it weren't for them G-unit, Dipset, D-Block, Shady and too many other rappers to mention maybe when you remove that avatar you'll gain some credibility

SmOkEy420 · 04-23-2007, 06:10 PM

all dat "snitchin" shit n "i got hoes" n "bitches" shit came from da mah fuckin streets not music i remember wen i was young boLmy pop used 2 teLL me not2 be a rat n no 1 likes a snitch n shitt i was raised like dat n 2 never faLL in loove wit no dumb bitches or hoes s0o dat aint from hip hop dats jus from everyday street life n shitt but dey need sumthiN or sum1 2 point der fingers at its fuckiN dumb......fuc da buLLshit

irishunit1 · 04-23-2007, 06:34 PM

AR0E1 · 04-23-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homicideinthehood

If he is put on by Big L it doesnt mean he is good , let's face the facts here even fif put on loads of people out there but we cant just say everyone fif put out he doing great .. ,everyone is listeing here , everyone knows what sort of material can cam put out , look at 40 glocc, new member hot rod, nyce these people can kill his ass,
I aint hater i totally support nay artist out here who makes good music ,including Game he is good rapper you need to agree , but cam please homie ............he is RIP

co-sign rather listen to game than this dum motherfucker he also really thinks he took out jay nas fif and mase

04-23-2007, 03:27 PM	#1
Legendz Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 6,735 Repped: 877 Repped 9,264 Times in 1,395 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	04/23/07 - Search for a Hip Hop Hitler: Did Killa Cam Kill Hip Hop? 04/23/07 - Search for a Hip Hop Hitler: Did Killa Cam Kill Hip Hop? Search for a Hip Hop Hitler: Did Killa Cam Kill Hip Hop? by Min. Paul Scott "Shots go off mothers cry, death since rise, homicide Black On Black crime needs to stop, Ya'll can't blame it on Hip Hop" - The Industry -Wyclef Jean I could tell by the way the media were pumpin' up the Cam'ron 60 minutes interview days prior to the airing that this wasn't going to be one of Hip Hop's stellar moments. With Hip Hop already under fire in the Don Imus aftermath, which was only eclipsed by the VA Tech murders, America needed a new bad guy; a Hip Hop Hitler to point to as the source of all of America's problems...Enter Cameron Giles..... Let's face it. It was ill advised, (or for the less politically suave, down right dumb) for Cam to say that he wouldn't turn in a serial killer livin' in the crib next to his, while Ethel Lou in Topeka was still shook from the story about the Virginia Tech shooter. However, in reality it was a set up that stank to high heaven. White America needed a new mainstream poster child to blame for the deterioration of America's moral values and Cam'ron gave it to them, signed, sealed delivered and decorated with a golden eagle medallion. Historically, America has always needed a black boogey man, a sacrificial lamb on whose back all the sins of the world could be placed. If you look back at the Civil Rights Era, when Rev. Martin Luther King was leading his march to bring attention to racial/economic injustice in Memphis, the media focus was not on the smooth talkin' dude in the nice suit but on a gang of paid off ruffians called the Invaders who allegedly wrecked havoc on innocent bystanders. This served as evidence that segregation was indeed justified because Black folks were not quite civilized enough to eat a hot stack of pancakes at Howard Johnson's. Things became increasingly worst in the late 80's as white folks went from trying to segregate a swimming pool to trying to segregate an entire ocean at Virginia Beach. The cause of the problem was not discrimination. No, according to the press, the real problem was that black college kids were shattering the plaster in Biff and Britney's summer cottage with their darn "ghetto" blasters... During the early 90's, I remember how the video tape of Rodney King being brutalized by the LAPD was replaced by Reginald Denny getting a mediaeval beat down by a four man army of "street thugs." And no, the "rioters" in LA were not making political statements about systematic socio-economic inequalities; they were just monsters on a blood thirsty rampage fueled by NWA lyrics and St. Ides Malt Liquor. Things have remained the same in the 21st century. Back in 2005, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the questions about broken levees and government coverups were drowned out by America's outrage over black thugz stealing wide screen TV sets from washed out department stores. And since they didn't have any electricity the thugz spent their afternoons target practicing at helicopters that were trying to deliver food and medical supplies to storm victims. For those with long term memory disorders, they need only think back to last winter when the outrage over Michael "Kramer" Richards dropping all those N bombs quickly switched to a national debate over why Black folks call their homies the "N" word. This brings us to the Imus "nappy headed ho" fiasco, where the news clips of a deranged looking cowboy who looked like he had one too many shots of Jack Daniels were replaced with clips of Snoop Dogg giving his deep intellectual insight into the various degrees of "ho-ism" So that brings us up to 4/22/07 and the Cam interview, where the talking heads have just discovered that not only don't rappers "love dem ho's" they ain't got no love for the Po Po's either. What is odd is that they did not once mention that the genesis of the distrust of the police is not based on a rap lyric but rooted in decades of Jim Crow-isms, COINTELPRO and numerous cases of mistaken identity and driving while black. Did they once mention that the Sean Bell shooting was maybe just enough to make Black folks believe that the Officer Friendly from their kindergarten coloring books wasn't so friendly after all? Although Hip Hop has been pretty resilient over the years as it has been a consistent cheddar producing cash cow for phat cats from Park Ave to Rodeo Drive, based on the current political climate as Moe Dee told LL back in tha Day "this be the death blow." Now, I am far from a Hip Hop apologist but I know a set up when I see one. And you can best believe that the "Hip Hop" question will be the source of endless political debates between now and the next election. What America will never admit is that ultimately, Hip Hop is not the problem, racism is. And if you get rid of racism today, the "N" word and all things associated would be gone tomorrow. To portray all Hip Hop artists as members of some Third Reich is ludicrous. Although some of the major record label owners may bear some resemblance to the evil master of propaganda, Adolf Hitler, "da 50 Cent" is not "der Fuhrer." TRUTH Minista Paul Scott represents the Messianic Afrikan Nation in Durham NC. He can be reached at (919) 451-8283 email minpaulscott@yahoo.com

04-23-2007, 04:03 PM	#5
Tha Truth ..:General Truth:... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: at ya girl crib Posts: 5,225 Repped: 675 Repped 1,045 Times in 251 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 2 Posts	thanks camron asshole __________________ {~Undisputed G$~}/Mechanical workin, Hechler handle's jerkin That'll pull the Gate in after you Heavenly church him-Bank$

04-23-2007, 04:30 PM	#7
young future R.I.P. Stack Bundles Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: D.C. Posts: 1,382 Repped: 229 Repped 995 Times in 86 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i watched it it wasn't that bad considering it was cam but he did throw shots at 50 on the sneak __________________ "What you eat dont make me shit" -Young Buck "I fear no man if he can breathe he can choke" -Lloyd Banks "Money aint a joke if u broke u get laughed at" -Cassidy

04-23-2007, 05:18 PM	#15
Fabuless Producer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,285 Repped: 2,380 Repped 204 Times in 59 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	way to go cam'ron nah just playin..they cant blame a nations problems on one type of music..or more importantly on 1 guy its Eminem's fault __________________ 20 G's for this watch, Are you sick G? A dot com on my arm, ThisIs50 - Chamillionaire

04-23-2007, 05:27 PM	#16
Baller Vulture Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NM Posts: 3,102 Repped: 112 Repped 269 Times in 150 Posts Neg Reps: 96 Neg Repped at 61 Times in 39 Posts	horrible thread......... __________________

04-23-2007, 03:53 PM	#2
CHOSEN ONE R.I.P CHOSEN ONE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: u can never stop me even if i get bann r.i.p chosen one!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,298 Repped: 137 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	and we wonda why hip hop is unda attack everytime.cause of supid niggaz lik cam

04-23-2007, 03:55 PM	#3
BrebYayo NEW B Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NEW B Posts: 1,964 Repped: 601 Repped 185 Times in 80 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	i think someone posted this already...but propz anyway...and fuc cam'ron!!!!!!

04-23-2007, 03:58 PM	#4
ComptonsKid Take That, Take That Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,034 Repped: 42 Repped 9 Times in 3 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	fuck camron??? fuck society for blaming this shit someone (cam) or something (hip-hop) that has nothing to do with its serious disfunctions and problems

04-23-2007, 04:07 PM	#6
Desert Eagle Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LONDON Posts: 4,871 Repped: 41 Repped 160 Times in 39 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	2 long for me 2 bother readin title is amusing tho

04-23-2007, 04:40 PM	#9
MR.FACEOFF STREETCHEF Join Date: May 2004 Location: L.E.S Posts: 104 Repped: 81 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	good post. finally some substance.

04-23-2007, 04:45 PM	#11
BUSHWICK PURE Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 97 Repped: 10 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I Told Ya Shots Wold Be Thrown In This Interview......lol Cam A Fuckn Retard

04-23-2007, 04:59 PM	#12
homicideinthehood Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 39 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stupid nigga Cameron . he cant be a rapper man , he was just lucky to get on fif's dick ..for real he is no comparison with fif nor the unit ... i ain't hater but please let face the facts .. Cameron a clown lucky enough to be in the game for real

04-23-2007, 05:08 PM	#13
The Legend Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 348 Repped: 20 Repped 8 Times in 3 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	anyone who blames this on cam is an idiot. And to the person who said Cam doesn't belong in the game, u gotta learn ur rap history. Rap musice didn't start with Get Rich or Die Tryin' in fact, that is a fairly recent album. Cam was put on by Big L (top 5 greatest rappers of all time), so that means he must have seen somethin in him. And Cam's first to albums were very good, and also sold well. I'll admit recentley he hasn't been on point, but to say he shouldn't be in the game is retarded

04-23-2007, 05:42 PM	#18
Mail Man Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bridge Posts: 2,488 Repped: 174 Repped 263 Times in 92 Posts Neg Reps: 7 Neg Repped at 11 Times in 7 Posts	can any one post the interview __________________ [IMG]<a href="http://www.rewards1.com/index.php?referrer_id=16074" target="_blank"><img[/IMG]

04-23-2007, 05:44 PM	#19
Thewrecker1ne Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 755 Repped: 145 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	What cam say bout fif in that interview

04-23-2007, 05:46 PM	#20
kevin413 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Broad View Park Fort Lauderdale, FL 954 Posts: 6,631 Repped: 3,823 Repped 13 Times in 5 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	didnt read it 2 long but cam'ron is a garbage rapper so wateva

04-23-2007, 06:07 PM	#21
MS DIOR ♥ IM A FEMALE ♥ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WITH 50 ;) Posts: 8,157 Repped: 967 Repped 717 Times in 241 Posts Neg Reps: 79 Neg Repped at 28 Times in 28 Posts	cam just needs to stfu __________________ CHR!SSY:TH3 OR!G!N@L..HATING IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY....FUCK YOU! ;)

04-23-2007, 06:10 PM	#23
SmOkEy420 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PhiLLy Posts: 717 Repped: 10 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	all dat "snitchin" shit n "i got hoes" n "bitches" shit came from da mah fuckin streets not music i remember wen i was young boLmy pop used 2 teLL me not2 be a rat n no 1 likes a snitch n shitt i was raised like dat n 2 never faLL in loove wit no dumb bitches or hoes s0o dat aint from hip hop dats jus from everyday street life n shitt but dey need sumthiN or sum1 2 point der fingers at its fuckiN dumb......fuc da buLLshit

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