04/10/07 - T.I. vs. TIP - NEWS LEAK on MTV.com!

threat_513 · 04-10-2007, 09:45 PM

T.I. vs. TIP - NEWS LEAK on MTV.com!

When T.I. releases his T.I. vs T.I.P. album — now slated for July — it won't just be a one-on-one face off of Clifford Harris' two musical personas. Plenty of his friends are jumping on it. Sunday night via phone from Atlanta, T.I.

revealed some of the album's collaborators, and it sounded like a red-carpet roll call at a high-profile awards show. The biggest names? A guy who knows a thing or two about split personalities and some cat who T.I. just performed with at the Grammys.

"I'm anticipating going in with Eminem," the King of the South revealed. "Eminem, we got a real hot concept that we spoke about over the phone. It's gonna be on some real creative sh--. JT, Justin Timberlake, we're just waiting on the proper song to get him on my album as well."

That's just the beginning. The two-time Grammy Award winner says he has about 60 songs in the can and will once again be working right up to the deadline to turn the album in.

"I'm working with everybody who I have an opportunity to work with," he added. "Timbaland, I'm working with Danja [Timbaland protégé Nate Hills] today. Scott Storch, Mannie Fresh, Wyclef — [Wyclef] came through with some real worldly music and great vocals. Nelly, Lil Wayne, R. Kelly. We reached out to Ciara, gonna see what she says. Akon did his thing for me. A lot of the Grand Hustle producers: Khao, Black Mob. ... Just Blaze, we did a song called 'Help Is Coming.' I'm basically talking about how they say the industry is suffering. Well, help is on the way. Fret not."

T.I. vs. T.I.P. is undoubtedly the film/mic star's most conceptual album to date. T.I. is the persona we hear in songs like "My Love" and "Why You Wanna." T.I.P., on the other hand, takes care of the much more gutter material like "Bring Em Out" and "You Don't Know Me." Tip says the LP will give you doses of T.I. and T.I.P. solo records as well as the two collaborating on the same track. There will be interludes throughout the LP, telling a story — and don't be surprised if more than one single from the project is released at once.

"I'm not just making an album, I'm making f---in' opera here," he chuckled. With such a high concept, he says that he's making sure to take extra time and critique every song to be sure he doesn't lose anyone.

"It'd be easy for me to go over people's heads," he rationalized. "Sometime people might see me act a certain way one time and another way one another time. They might not believe the same cat you see dressed so sharp and winning awards and speaking eloquently is the same cat you see fist-fighting with hoodlums outside a nightclub. This album will be an explanation of all of this."

Inspiration for material is something T.I. is definitely not lacking. Professionally, he's thrived since the release of King in 2006. He won two Grammys, received critical acclaim for his part in his Hollywood debut, "ATL," and filmed "American Gangster" with Academy Award winner Denzel Washington. The screenplay for "T.I vs. T.I.P." is being written now, with production for the film scheduled to ramp up this summer. And lately, Tip's been on a tear as one of the most requested MCs for guest appearances, featured on Justin Timberlake's "My Love," Jim Jones' "We Fly High" remix, Fat Joe's "Make It Rain" remix, DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over," DJ Drama's "Takin Pictures" and R. Kelly's "Flirt" remix.

Personally, though, Tip's had some ups and downs. The most heartbreaking low came last May when he had to endure the loss of his best friend Philant Johnson after unknown assailants shot at his tour bus following a show in Cincinnati (see "Deadly Shooting Causes T.I. To Re-Evaluate His Life"). The death of his friend almost caused him to retire from rap, period.

"A lot of mixed emotion," T.I. began to detail. "Parts of me were ready to get out the game completely. I felt the game wasn't for me. I felt like I was finnin' to kill somebody or do something that was gonna get me killed. That was the first time I felt about the rap game what I felt about the dope game. ... Right before I got out of the dope game, and my son was [about to be born], I sat myself down and said, 'You gonna mess around and kill somebody and have to deal with that. Or you might get yourself killed.' "

T.I. said he was ultimately inspired to not give up the mic after his late friend came to him one night.

"Phil spoke to me and said, 'If you quit, I'll kill you,' " he remembered.

Tip says going back to recording after his brief hiatus was nowhere nearly as tough as doing shows shortly after losing his friend.

As fate would have it, after such a tragic loss, Tip was blessed with a life. He's expecting a baby girl this July with longtime girlfriend Tameka "Tiny" Cottle. It will be T.I.'s and Tiny second child together. The two were even engaged, but have recently decided to amicably end their long relationship and remain friends.

"She's still a part of my life," he explained the turn their relationship has taken. "I love her to death. Her children is still my children, my children are still her children," he said (both have kids from previous relationships). "We want each other to be happy. It's nothing she did and it's nothing I did."

While T.I. works on album number five and awaits the birth of child number six in his and Cottle's brood, he'll also be overseeing several other projects on his Grand Hustle imprint, such as DJ Drama's official Gangsta Grillz album and the sophomore project from Young Dro. There's also a clothing line he's involved in with his manager and business partner Jason Geter called AKOO.

This report is provided by MTV News

Who's summer will it be fifty's or Ti's?

Dam3ion · 04-10-2007, 09:47 PM

first propz...fifty'z of course...but tip gon do him

EdG810 · 04-10-2007, 09:50 PM

idk y but to me T.I. is wack I have a hard time understanding what he says i guess im used to east coast rap.

Braza · 04-10-2007, 10:04 PM

proppzz.........

Mr.Smith · 04-10-2007, 10:09 PM

Can't wait until his album drops.

stillerfan82 · 04-10-2007, 10:11 PM

he has 6 kids???

Kay-D™ · 04-10-2007, 10:14 PM

props good read and hopefully a really sick album..

Renegade25 · 04-10-2007, 10:18 PM

T.I=Soudns like RNB dude now....WE dont fuck with LA DI DA DI DA Ciara, Nelly shit...WHere is Hip hop?

Bkjj11 · 04-10-2007, 10:19 PM

HELL YEAH he got a lot of kids. This album is kinda stupid to me cause i can see Cassidy doing a Split Personality joint or 50 Cent. But T.I, he only made one love song by HIMSELF and thats Why You Wanna. Well i don't care what nobody say, LUDACRIS IS the REAL King of the South

Ludacris>>>>T.I. lyrically, money wise, album sales, record label etc...

gunitscarfacez · 04-10-2007, 10:37 PM

Can't Wait til T.I LP..but 50 should have hella summa

Fabuless · 04-10-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdG810

idk y but to me T.I. is wack I have a hard time understanding what he says i guess im used to east coast rap.

TI is aiight on songs where you actually understand him...he slur his words too much..
so me and u is just used to rap where dudes know how to talk

gunit/bws/dipset · 04-10-2007, 10:43 PM

this album is going to be nasty

Hustler313420 · 04-10-2007, 10:54 PM

T.I. gonna rule the summer...............................

ns_diplomat · 04-10-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bkjj11

HELL YEAH he got a lot of kids. This album is kinda stupid to me cause i can see Cassidy doing a Split Personality joint or 50 Cent. But T.I, he only made one love song by HIMSELF and thats Why You Wanna. Well i don't care what nobody say, LUDACRIS IS the REAL King of the South

Ludacris>>>>T.I. lyrically, money wise, album sales, record label etc...

never heard of that track T.I VS T.I.P?

Fuzion · 04-10-2007, 10:59 PM

that joint with em i bet is gonna bring back slim shady, slim/em, vs. tip/t.i.

WonderBoyBanks · 04-10-2007, 11:02 PM

One of the TOP 3 Albums dropping this year. GO BUY THIS PEOPLE

tonychilufya · 04-10-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hustler313420

T.I. gonna rule the summer...............................

No Man,Curtis is

BallerV24 · 04-10-2007, 11:16 PM

this news is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OLD. i read the same jt and eminem line like 2 months ago.

Mr. 416 · 04-10-2007, 11:19 PM

man, cant wait

dipsetbitch · 04-10-2007, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonychilufya

No Man,Curtis is

no one cares....we aint talking bout 50 this is bout t.i. and witht he rate gunit is going i doubt they'll run shit.

SmokyChronic · 04-10-2007, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzion

that joint with em i bet is gonna bring back slim shady, slim/em, vs. tip/t.i.

no joke thatd be a hot track right there fuckin insane shit if thats the concept that tere hiding

one8seven · 04-10-2007, 11:39 PM

T.i. T.i. T.i.!

Lyrical Menace · 04-10-2007, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hustler313420

T.I. gonna rule the summer...............................

thnk u.. sum 1 here got a brain...

Deebo · 04-10-2007, 11:40 PM

Fuck T.I.!!!! I Dare Him 2 Come Back 2 My Hood!!! Diz Time, He'z Gonna B Tha ONe Sleepin In A Casket!!!

Why Ban Steve? · 04-10-2007, 11:42 PM

Props. Shit sound like its gonna be hot

04-10-2007, 09:45 PM	#1
threat_513 Nativille-Undisputed G'z Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 909 Repped: 317 Repped 286 Times in 92 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	04/10/07 - T.I. vs. TIP - NEWS LEAK on MTV.com! 04/10/07 - T.I. vs. TIP - NEWS LEAK on MTV.com! T.I. vs. TIP - NEWS LEAK on MTV.com! When T.I. releases his T.I. vs T.I.P. album — now slated for July — it won't just be a one-on-one face off of Clifford Harris' two musical personas. Plenty of his friends are jumping on it. Sunday night via phone from Atlanta, T.I. revealed some of the album's collaborators, and it sounded like a red-carpet roll call at a high-profile awards show. The biggest names? A guy who knows a thing or two about split personalities and some cat who T.I. just performed with at the Grammys. "I'm anticipating going in with Eminem," the King of the South revealed. "Eminem, we got a real hot concept that we spoke about over the phone. It's gonna be on some real creative sh--. JT, Justin Timberlake, we're just waiting on the proper song to get him on my album as well." That's just the beginning. The two-time Grammy Award winner says he has about 60 songs in the can and will once again be working right up to the deadline to turn the album in. "I'm working with everybody who I have an opportunity to work with," he added. "Timbaland, I'm working with Danja [Timbaland protégé Nate Hills] today. Scott Storch, Mannie Fresh, Wyclef — [Wyclef] came through with some real worldly music and great vocals. Nelly, Lil Wayne, R. Kelly. We reached out to Ciara, gonna see what she says. Akon did his thing for me. A lot of the Grand Hustle producers: Khao, Black Mob. ... Just Blaze, we did a song called 'Help Is Coming.' I'm basically talking about how they say the industry is suffering. Well, help is on the way. Fret not." T.I. vs. T.I.P. is undoubtedly the film/mic star's most conceptual album to date. T.I. is the persona we hear in songs like "My Love" and "Why You Wanna." T.I.P., on the other hand, takes care of the much more gutter material like "Bring Em Out" and "You Don't Know Me." Tip says the LP will give you doses of T.I. and T.I.P. solo records as well as the two collaborating on the same track. There will be interludes throughout the LP, telling a story — and don't be surprised if more than one single from the project is released at once. "I'm not just making an album, I'm making f---in' opera here," he chuckled. With such a high concept, he says that he's making sure to take extra time and critique every song to be sure he doesn't lose anyone. "It'd be easy for me to go over people's heads," he rationalized. "Sometime people might see me act a certain way one time and another way one another time. They might not believe the same cat you see dressed so sharp and winning awards and speaking eloquently is the same cat you see fist-fighting with hoodlums outside a nightclub. This album will be an explanation of all of this." Inspiration for material is something T.I. is definitely not lacking. Professionally, he's thrived since the release of King in 2006. He won two Grammys, received critical acclaim for his part in his Hollywood debut, "ATL," and filmed "American Gangster" with Academy Award winner Denzel Washington. The screenplay for "T.I vs. T.I.P." is being written now, with production for the film scheduled to ramp up this summer. And lately, Tip's been on a tear as one of the most requested MCs for guest appearances, featured on Justin Timberlake's "My Love," Jim Jones' "We Fly High" remix, Fat Joe's "Make It Rain" remix, DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over," DJ Drama's "Takin Pictures" and R. Kelly's "Flirt" remix. Personally, though, Tip's had some ups and downs. The most heartbreaking low came last May when he had to endure the loss of his best friend Philant Johnson after unknown assailants shot at his tour bus following a show in Cincinnati (see "Deadly Shooting Causes T.I. To Re-Evaluate His Life"). The death of his friend almost caused him to retire from rap, period. "A lot of mixed emotion," T.I. began to detail. "Parts of me were ready to get out the game completely. I felt the game wasn't for me. I felt like I was finnin' to kill somebody or do something that was gonna get me killed. That was the first time I felt about the rap game what I felt about the dope game. ... Right before I got out of the dope game, and my son was [about to be born], I sat myself down and said, 'You gonna mess around and kill somebody and have to deal with that. Or you might get yourself killed.' " T.I. said he was ultimately inspired to not give up the mic after his late friend came to him one night. "Phil spoke to me and said, 'If you quit, I'll kill you,' " he remembered. Tip says going back to recording after his brief hiatus was nowhere nearly as tough as doing shows shortly after losing his friend. As fate would have it, after such a tragic loss, Tip was blessed with a life. He's expecting a baby girl this July with longtime girlfriend Tameka "Tiny" Cottle. It will be T.I.'s and Tiny second child together. The two were even engaged, but have recently decided to amicably end their long relationship and remain friends. "She's still a part of my life," he explained the turn their relationship has taken. "I love her to death. Her children is still my children, my children are still her children," he said (both have kids from previous relationships). "We want each other to be happy. It's nothing she did and it's nothing I did." While T.I. works on album number five and awaits the birth of child number six in his and Cottle's brood, he'll also be overseeing several other projects on his Grand Hustle imprint, such as DJ Drama's official Gangsta Grillz album and the sophomore project from Young Dro. There's also a clothing line he's involved in with his manager and business partner Jason Geter called AKOO. This report is provided by MTV News Who's summer will it be fifty's or Ti's? __________________

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Dam3ion Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Orleanz, Louisiana Posts: 5,696 Repped: 801 Repped 3,024 Times in 550 Posts Neg Reps: 35 Neg Repped at 50 Times in 43 Posts	first propz...fifty'z of course...but tip gon do him __________________ 9-0...Who's Gonna Beat Us...

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EdG810 Tha Babyface Gangsta Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,552 Repped: 679 Repped 886 Times in 196 Posts Neg Reps: 50 Neg Repped at 14 Times in 9 Posts	idk y but to me T.I. is wack I have a hard time understanding what he says i guess im used to east coast rap. __________________ Living Revolutionary, Nothing Less Than Legendary, Gangsta Shit Hereditary, Got It From My Dad, Flow Colder Than February, With Extraordinary Swag.

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Braza Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 8,188 Repped: 4,163 Repped 1,269 Times in 487 Posts Neg Reps: 258 Neg Repped at 118 Times in 106 Posts	proppzz......... __________________

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Kay-D™ Alwayz Laugh, Fuck Crying Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,330 Repped: 148 Repped 209 Times in 62 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 3 Times in 3 Posts	props good read and hopefully a really sick album.. __________________ "Feel Free To Hate On Me." - Katt Williams "Sit Down, Shut The Fuck Up And Watch Me Shine." - The Game

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Mr.Smith Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,248 Repped: 897 Repped 333 Times in 63 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can't wait until his album drops.

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stillerfan82 615Blackwallstreet Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,017 Repped: 148 Repped 554 Times in 166 Posts Neg Reps: 38 Neg Repped at 51 Times in 28 Posts	he has 6 kids???

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Renegade25 Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,764 Repped: 4 Repped 595 Times in 107 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	T.I=Soudns like RNB dude now....WE dont fuck with LA DI DA DI DA Ciara, Nelly shit...WHere is Hip hop?

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Bkjj11 Cuz u copied my trend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Playboy Mansion Posts: 4,268 Repped: 219 Repped 6,920 Times in 628 Posts Neg Reps: 56 Neg Repped at 97 Times in 62 Posts	HELL YEAH he got a lot of kids. This album is kinda stupid to me cause i can see Cassidy doing a Split Personality joint or 50 Cent. But T.I, he only made one love song by HIMSELF and thats Why You Wanna. Well i don't care what nobody say, LUDACRIS IS the REAL King of the South Ludacris>>>>T.I. lyrically, money wise, album sales, record label etc... __________________

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gunitscarfacez 90 % hustlin 10 % sleep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: ManchVegas , US Posts: 645 Repped: 96 Repped 8 Times in 7 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 1 Post	Can't Wait til T.I LP..but 50 should have hella summa

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gunit/bws/dipset -RJ- Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,080 Repped: 431 Repped 40 Times in 6 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	this album is going to be nasty

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Fuzion Instrumental Bootlegger Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 652 Repped: 37 Repped 41 Times in 9 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	that joint with em i bet is gonna bring back slim shady, slim/em, vs. tip/t.i.

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BallerV24 Bizzanned! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 4,588 Repped: 2,049 Repped 484 Times in 140 Posts Neg Reps: 25 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	this news is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OLD. i read the same jt and eminem line like 2 months ago. __________________ they say that sleepin' is the cousin of death im wide awake while you're dreamin your last breath

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Mr. 416 The Rugged One Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: T-Dot Posts: 7,591 Repped: 721 Repped 204 Times in 52 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	man, cant wait

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one8seven GWorld/HHBoard Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BurnCity, Australia Posts: 18,384 Repped: 192 Repped 108 Times in 38 Posts Neg Reps: 4 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	T.i. T.i. T.i.! __________________ We will always be better than you. "It's funny. Don't ever tell anybody anything. If you do, You start missing everybody." - Holden Caulfied, The Catcher In The Rye

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Deebo Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH a.k.a. Riot City "513" Posts: 797 Repped: 221 Repped 178 Times in 23 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fuck T.I.!!!! I Dare Him 2 Come Back 2 My Hood!!! Diz Time, He'z Gonna B Tha ONe Sleepin In A Casket!!!

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Why Ban Steve? Guess Who's Back? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Tha Chi My Niggaz Posts: 1,115 Repped: 202 Repped 14 Times in 7 Posts Neg Reps: 305 Neg Repped at 32 Times in 16 Posts	Props. Shit sound like its gonna be hot

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