02/28/07 - Hip Hop Is Dying

Legendz · 02-28-2007, 05:48 AM

Nasir Jones aka Nas, with the album Hip-Hop is Dead, has generated a new conversation around the long time debate over the future of Hip-Hop. Many believe that hip-hop has moved away from its origin, not only in theme and content but also geographically. Some believe that “current rap is corny” or that the “real MC’s are gone”. “The MC’s in the likeness of Kool G Rap, Rakim, Kane, and KRS-1 don’t exist.”

The future of the Hip-Hop Community cannot be diagnosed by just looking at the future of the music, in isolation of the communities social, political, and economic future.

The No.1 killer of black men in the United States ages 10-35 is Homicide. The No.2 killer of Hispanic men in the United States of that same age group is also Homicide; populations that are largely represented in the Hip-Hop Community.

According to Healthy People 2010 (, Black people make up an estimated 49% of all new AIDS cases compared to 31% white and 19% Hispanic. Black women die during child birth at a rate of 25 per 100,000 live births compared to 7 for white women and 10 for Hispanic women. If the health of a community is a direct reflection of the health of their children than the fact that black infants die at a rate 3 times higher than the National goal should raise some concern. Unfortunately the statistics of health disparity are the same in most major categories. Blacks are dying at a higher rate.

Hip-Hop is dying and ending up on the Medical Examiner’s table. The death of Hip-Hop will continue unless we gain control over our own social climate. The social disparities are not relegated to health only. We are disparately represented in all policy decision making areas – Economics, Education, Housing, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice. We must concentrate on establishing a foundation of development in these areas in the form of institutions. It is not enough to protest and lobby for political and policy equity. We must generate leadership from within our community to serve our own interests. The time of the individual charismatic leader that ends in martyrdom is gone. The time is now to educate ourselves, to heal ourselves, to protect ourselves, and build homes and businesses for ourselves.

Hip-Hop is not dead but it sure is dying and I am doing the autopsies.

Roger A. Mitchell, Jr. MD

Chairman – Board of Directors

Hip-Hop Caucus

mrkillero · 02-28-2007, 05:53 AM

who gives a fuck about wat Roger A. Mitchell, Jr. MD thinks about hip hop as a whole nas comes out and says hip hop is dead and these roger ass muthafuckas run with the idea putin more into something that is not.

NDaATL · 02-28-2007, 05:58 AM

nas is a fkn idiot.

unitymama · 02-28-2007, 08:43 AM

Nas stop putting negtive shit in the air!!!!...

Shady89 · 02-28-2007, 08:50 AM

Hip Hop is not dead, so shut the fuck up.

JTC50C · 02-28-2007, 09:20 AM

if any of you fuckin stupid motherfuckers say shit and hate on this you guys are fuckin stupid. Good for this guy trying to turn attention to something mor important and urgent.

GMNRecordsCT3 · 02-28-2007, 09:40 AM

Props. This whole country is going down.

Hakaroodi · 02-28-2007, 09:50 AM

Hip Hop is very much alive niggaz...

RussianBanger · 02-28-2007, 09:56 AM

nas just mad cause he thought his album would sell 24634363463 x plat and now that it didnt he mad and blame hip hop..

DJ Whoo Kid · 02-28-2007, 10:04 AM

Nas cant excell in music, so he believes if he influences the people to believe "Hip Hop is dead", then he can carry on creating his flavour of music with people regarding it as "Hip Hop.

The simple fact is Nas is livin in the past.

ns_diplomat · 02-28-2007, 10:18 AM

thanks to Young Joc, Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L and every other motherfuckers who killed hip hop!

mEatwaD · 02-28-2007, 10:22 AM

ya'll niggaz need to learn how to read..............

da_kid_LT · 02-28-2007, 10:43 AM

nas only say hip hop is dien cus he finished...no1 wanna hear his shit so he needs a excuse...hence "hip hop is dead" if its dead why u still maken music?...u aint gonna save it wit wack lines.

J Dert · 02-28-2007, 11:20 AM

The black society has nothing to do with the death of hip-hop. Its a fact that the highest selling records in 2006 were Gnarls Barkley and T.I. Thos are two positive artists or groups.

The death of hip-hop is due to lack of creativity or abuse of creativity one or the other. People are putting out this southern bullish and re-recording the same drum pattern a million times. The synths all come from the same machine and are all the same.

People like Kool G. Rap, Big Daddy Kane, listen to the beats when hip hop was live and poppin. Listen to KRS-One's beats and tell me the different. Hip Hop isnt for the street, its for the club. Now hip-hop has been renamed Gangster Rap!

I think that all the facts about blacks in their were interesting but it sounds like you just want to spread facts. The fact is that Nas is warning the hphop community that our culture may suffer a huge change, and Me, him and all the true heads need to keep together. We are about to lose what we love.

Joshua Banks

|PrinceofthebaY| · 02-28-2007, 11:31 AM

hip hop aint dead, its down but not out

IbeWazir · 02-28-2007, 12:34 PM

Hip Hop is garbage nowadays though, I haven't watch MTV or BET in like 3 years cause all they show is retarded shit!

Snapper · 02-28-2007, 12:48 PM

if hip hop wos dead we wouldn't be on the fuckin forum rite now wud we.

R.o.B · 02-28-2007, 01:31 PM

propz i think...

TR3YbKoi08 · 02-28-2007, 02:08 PM

nass iz fuCCin up

Otis Beats · 02-28-2007, 02:15 PM

Fuck nas that nigga still stuck in the eighties
matter of fact his a buster / i dont trust ya

Smithilberry · 02-28-2007, 02:28 PM

they might be dyin at a higher rate but they are also populating at a higher rate... every black girl in the hood has atleast one baby... well, not every, but most... this aint a lie either... and im not bein racist... its pure fact... its obviously their fault... blacks kill blacks too... all they could do is blame themselves...

182 · 02-28-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkillero

who gives a fuck about wat Roger A. Mitchell, Jr. MD thinks about hip hop as a whole nas comes out and says hip hop is dead and these roger ass muthafuckas run with the idea putin more into something that is not.

COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER

100% CO-SIGN !

..LAMO AT NAS I'M TIRED OF THIS WHOLE "HIP HOP IS DEAD" SHIT !!

lol go and save it supernas...idiot... LAMO !

Get-Em-Buck · 02-28-2007, 02:33 PM

nas albume is dump.

GeeDupKennyYayo · 02-28-2007, 02:41 PM

hip hop is dying cuz all the raps r corny and nuthin 2 rap about anymore cuz everybody got recycled rhymes

Cash Flow · 02-28-2007, 02:48 PM

Rap is alive, Hip Hop as a culture is dying though. You got white boys trying to be Crips and Bloods and wearin' Hip Hop clothes... The culture has been watered down, but the rap part of it is still bangin'... Dudes like Papoose, Saigon, Genius/GZA, RZA, Method Man, Redman, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, Prodigy, Nas and AZ still goin' strong and releasing shit. Notice all them dudes is from New York too, it's a shame the South can't keep up with New York... Possibly only Buck and Chamillionaire are in their leagues and they can't compare to dude like Nas, Pap and Genius/GZA... Hip Hop needs to go back to its roots and rap needs to get serious again and stop this money shit.

02-28-2007, 05:48 AM	#1
Legendz Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 6,735 Repped: 877 Repped 9,264 Times in 1,395 Posts Neg Reps: 1 Neg Repped at 1 Time in 1 Post	02/28/07 - Hip Hop Is Dying 02/28/07 - Hip Hop Is Dying Nasir Jones aka Nas, with the album Hip-Hop is Dead, has generated a new conversation around the long time debate over the future of Hip-Hop. Many believe that hip-hop has moved away from its origin, not only in theme and content but also geographically. Some believe that “current rap is corny” or that the “real MC’s are gone”. “The MC’s in the likeness of Kool G Rap, Rakim, Kane, and KRS-1 don’t exist.” The future of the Hip-Hop Community cannot be diagnosed by just looking at the future of the music, in isolation of the communities social, political, and economic future. The No.1 killer of black men in the United States ages 10-35 is Homicide. The No.2 killer of Hispanic men in the United States of that same age group is also Homicide; populations that are largely represented in the Hip-Hop Community. According to Healthy People 2010 (, Black people make up an estimated 49% of all new AIDS cases compared to 31% white and 19% Hispanic. Black women die during child birth at a rate of 25 per 100,000 live births compared to 7 for white women and 10 for Hispanic women. If the health of a community is a direct reflection of the health of their children than the fact that black infants die at a rate 3 times higher than the National goal should raise some concern. Unfortunately the statistics of health disparity are the same in most major categories. Blacks are dying at a higher rate. Hip-Hop is dying and ending up on the Medical Examiner’s table. The death of Hip-Hop will continue unless we gain control over our own social climate. The social disparities are not relegated to health only. We are disparately represented in all policy decision making areas – Economics, Education, Housing, Healthcare, and Criminal Justice. We must concentrate on establishing a foundation of development in these areas in the form of institutions. It is not enough to protest and lobby for political and policy equity. We must generate leadership from within our community to serve our own interests. The time of the individual charismatic leader that ends in martyrdom is gone. The time is now to educate ourselves, to heal ourselves, to protect ourselves, and build homes and businesses for ourselves. Hip-Hop is not dead but it sure is dying and I am doing the autopsies. Roger A. Mitchell, Jr. MD Chairman – Board of Directors Hip-Hop Caucus

02-28-2007, 10:18 AM	#11
ns_diplomat Reppin' 514 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 514 - MTL - 514 Posts: 14,947 Repped: 664 Repped 1,324 Times in 538 Posts Neg Reps: 42 Neg Repped at 76 Times in 61 Posts	thanks to Young Joc, Dem Franchize Boyz, D4L and every other motherfuckers who killed hip hop! __________________ G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath!! "Shout out to all the people in Montreal - Montreal is real hood. Real gangsta out there." - Juelz Santana

02-28-2007, 11:20 AM	#14
J Dert Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wrong... The black society has nothing to do with the death of hip-hop. Its a fact that the highest selling records in 2006 were Gnarls Barkley and T.I. Thos are two positive artists or groups. The death of hip-hop is due to lack of creativity or abuse of creativity one or the other. People are putting out this southern bullish and re-recording the same drum pattern a million times. The synths all come from the same machine and are all the same. People like Kool G. Rap, Big Daddy Kane, listen to the beats when hip hop was live and poppin. Listen to KRS-One's beats and tell me the different. Hip Hop isnt for the street, its for the club. Now hip-hop has been renamed Gangster Rap! I think that all the facts about blacks in their were interesting but it sounds like you just want to spread facts. The fact is that Nas is warning the hphop community that our culture may suffer a huge change, and Me, him and all the true heads need to keep together. We are about to lose what we love. Joshua Banks

02-28-2007, 11:31 AM	#15
\|PrinceofthebaY\| -6.0.4 B.a.n.g.e.r- Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: -6-0-4- Posts: 1,114 Repped: 285 Repped 708 Times in 88 Posts Neg Reps: 4 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 1 Post	hip hop aint dead, its down but not out __________________

02-28-2007, 02:15 PM	#20
Otis Beats Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,238 Repped: 14 Repped 2,612 Times in 441 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fuck nas that nigga still stuck in the eighties matter of fact his a buster / i dont trust ya __________________

02-28-2007, 05:53 AM	#2
mrkillero Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In BLOCKRUNNAZ Mothers Mouth Posts: 3,286 Repped: 1,273 Repped 412 Times in 50 Posts Neg Reps: 8 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	who gives a fuck about wat Roger A. Mitchell, Jr. MD thinks about hip hop as a whole nas comes out and says hip hop is dead and these roger ass muthafuckas run with the idea putin more into something that is not.

02-28-2007, 05:58 AM	#3
NDaATL Killa Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ATL son Posts: 39 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nas is a fkn idiot.

02-28-2007, 08:43 AM	#4
unitymama veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: GA. Posts: 6,445 Repped: 1,647 Repped 73 Times in 38 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Neg Reps: 7 Neg Repped at 8 Times in 7 Posts	Nas stop putting negtive shit in the air!!!!...

02-28-2007, 08:50 AM	#5
Shady89 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 4,881 Repped: 1,229 Repped 173 Times in 45 Posts Neg Reps: 7 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 3 Posts	Hip Hop is not dead, so shut the fuck up.

02-28-2007, 09:20 AM	#6
JTC50C Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Syracuse Posts: 7,899 Repped: 5,542 Repped 155 Times in 58 Posts Neg Reps: 44 Neg Repped at 8 Times in 7 Posts	if any of you fuckin stupid motherfuckers say shit and hate on this you guys are fuckin stupid. Good for this guy trying to turn attention to something mor important and urgent.

02-28-2007, 09:40 AM	#7
GMNRecordsCT3 Macaroni wit the Cheeesse Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wash Heights, NYC Posts: 17,607 Repped: 6,779 Repped 2,309 Times in 618 Posts Neg Reps: 202 Neg Repped at 50 Times in 40 Posts	Props. This whole country is going down.

02-28-2007, 09:50 AM	#8
Hakaroodi G-UNIT SOLDIER Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 30,519 Repped: 14,428 Repped 952 Times in 224 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 49 Times in 45 Posts	Hip Hop is very much alive niggaz...

02-28-2007, 09:56 AM	#9
RussianBanger Stay in school! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,635 Repped: 80 Repped 56 Times in 11 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nas just mad cause he thought his album would sell 24634363463 x plat and now that it didnt he mad and blame hip hop..

02-28-2007, 10:04 AM	#10
DJ Whoo Kid The Marketing Genius Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,662 Repped: 466 Repped 432 Times in 77 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nas cant excell in music, so he believes if he influences the people to believe "Hip Hop is dead", then he can carry on creating his flavour of music with people regarding it as "Hip Hop. The simple fact is Nas is livin in the past.

02-28-2007, 10:22 AM	#12
mEatwaD Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY Posts: 2,568 Repped: 1,348 Repped 508 Times in 130 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 7 Times in 5 Posts	ya'll niggaz need to learn how to read..............

02-28-2007, 10:43 AM	#13
da_kid_LT Bajan Shotta Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,409 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nas only say hip hop is dien cus he finished...no1 wanna hear his shit so he needs a excuse...hence "hip hop is dead" if its dead why u still maken music?...u aint gonna save it wit wack lines.

02-28-2007, 12:34 PM	#16
IbeWazir The Realist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Marshall, MO Posts: 2,924 Repped: 533 Repped 131 Times in 68 Posts Neg Reps: 42 Neg Repped at 80 Times in 29 Posts	Hip Hop is garbage nowadays though, I haven't watch MTV or BET in like 3 years cause all they show is retarded shit!

02-28-2007, 12:48 PM	#17
Snapper ◆ㅣㄴㄴㅆ∂┳┃¢◇ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England. Posts: 5,619 Repped: 1,866 Repped 820 Times in 351 Posts Neg Reps: 102 Neg Repped at 71 Times in 56 Posts	if hip hop wos dead we wouldn't be on the fuckin forum rite now wud we.

02-28-2007, 01:31 PM	#18
R.o.B Talento De Barrio Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DR. Posts: 1,317 Repped: 15 Repped 569 Times in 61 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz i think...

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TR3YbKoi08 MON3Y MACC MAINTAIN Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New York CIty Posts: 237 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nass iz fuCCin up

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Smithilberry A.K.A. ZANY BLUNTS! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Qu€€n$ N€w ¥ø®k B!TcH€$! (718) Posts: 14,043 Repped: 2,094 Repped 1,230 Times in 672 Posts Neg Reps: 102 Neg Repped at 175 Times in 131 Posts	they might be dyin at a higher rate but they are also populating at a higher rate... every black girl in the hood has atleast one baby... well, not every, but most... this aint a lie either... and im not bein racist... its pure fact... its obviously their fault... blacks kill blacks too... all they could do is blame themselves... __________________ A.K.A. Master Sensei Zany

02-28-2007, 02:33 PM	#23
Get-Em-Buck G-Unit 4 Life Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Holland Posts: 1,379 Repped: 436 Repped 766 Times in 82 Posts Neg Reps: 25 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 7 Posts	nas albume is dump. __________________

02-28-2007, 02:41 PM	#24
GeeDupKennyYayo Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 796 Repped: 151 Repped 5 Times in 2 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hip hop is dying cuz all the raps r corny and nuthin 2 rap about anymore cuz everybody got recycled rhymes

02-28-2007, 02:48 PM	#25
Cash Flow Can't Tell Me Nuttin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Rap Chamber Wit My Bulletproof Wallets... Posts: 306 Repped: 2 Repped 13 Times in 6 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rap is alive, Hip Hop as a culture is dying though. You got white boys trying to be Crips and Bloods and wearin' Hip Hop clothes... The culture has been watered down, but the rap part of it is still bangin'... Dudes like Papoose, Saigon, Genius/GZA, RZA, Method Man, Redman, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, Prodigy, Nas and AZ still goin' strong and releasing shit. Notice all them dudes is from New York too, it's a shame the South can't keep up with New York... Possibly only Buck and Chamillionaire are in their leagues and they can't compare to dude like Nas, Pap and Genius/GZA... Hip Hop needs to go back to its roots and rap needs to get serious again and stop this money shit.

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