10/24/06 - 10/24/06 Ras Kass Responds To Crocodile Hunter's Manager

YoungKR07 · 10-24-2006, 10:00 AM

Rapper Ras Kass has responded to criticism surrounding a line on his recently released diss track to rival The Game, in which he references the death of Steve "The Crocodile Hunter" Irwin.

Irwin's manager John Stainton lashed out at the rapper yesterday (Oct. 23) in the Sydney Morning Herald, because of a line in the 6-minute battle rap titled "Gayme Over" in which Ras Kass raps: "You're the waste of LA/get blast up in LA/face down, ass up in LA/you the Crocodile Hunter, I am the stingray"

"I just find it a bit sad that people have to stoop to that," Stainton told the Sydney Morning Herald. "It is disappointing. I can't understand the point of it. There are other references they can make that will put the point across."

Irwin was fatally wounded on Sept. 4, while diving near Australia's Great Barrier Reef. A barb from a stingray pierced his chest as he was filming a segment for his eight-year-old daughter's new TV series.

Ras Kass responded to Stainton's criticism by writing an open letter to the Sydney Morning Herald to defend his choice of words.

"Every person should be treated with an equal brush stroke, or no one should, and everything must be considered in context," Ras said in the open letter. "I am a hip hop artist. Hip-hop is like any other art form; nothing is sacred, nothing is off limits. As such, I have used historical events and current events as metaphors to express a greater perspective to certain ideas and points. At other times, I myself, have been referenced- be it in a positive or negative light. That is part of the creative process and the nature of what rap music is. I in no way have, or have had any ill will towards the late Steve Irwin."

Ras Kass said the line was one of many insults directed at his rival The Game. He explained that he used Irwin's death as a metaphor-- but the usage didn't make a positive or negative statement about Irwin or his death.

The Watts-bred rapper also said the line was being blown out of proportion in comparison to some of the other jabs he takes at Game during their latest round of battling, since a physical confrontation in an L.A. nightclub in September sparked the feud.

"Mr. Stainton doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned with other references that one could misconstrue as homophobic or misogynistic, let alone is he concerned with the potential violence in hip hop or black-on-black violence," Ras Kass said. "He only seems to be bothered by one line. I am just saying that consistency would be nice. If you aren't from the hip hop culture and are not familiar with it then you are not qualified to judge it. Whether American or Australian, every human life is valuable; otherwise it makes it appear that Mr. Stainton thinks that only one man's is."

m0nghead · 10-24-2006, 10:02 AM

tone it down ras, u the unit n all, but shit mayne aint no reason for that, that dude was safe as houses!

Katch 26 · 10-24-2006, 10:07 AM

yeah there wasnt any point of saying that , rass couldve thought up something alot better dissing the game and not dissing someone who lived on the other side of the planet ...............................peace

r.i.p steve irwin (crazy croc hunter)

NEWSKULL · 10-24-2006, 10:09 AM

This Dude need to chill for real... How pathetic to get offended by metaphores...

Jay Day · 10-24-2006, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katch 26

yeah there wasnt any point of saying that , rass couldve thought up something alot better dissing the game and not dissing someone who lived on the other side of the planet ...............................peace

r.i.p steve irwin (crazy croc hunter)

papoose used steve irwin in one of his songs too and nobody said nothin'

Chobie · 10-24-2006, 10:19 AM

Fuck Doja!!

JEarly · 10-24-2006, 10:23 AM

Hey man even em uses dead people in songs so dont trip. cause rass is using it to air out game.
I mean its battle yall niccuz is sensitive like you never heard worst in the hood.
propz

sykoaus · 10-24-2006, 10:25 AM

propz on news, i live in aus, luckily not many people know to much about the use of irwins death yet (in the battle diss), no lie when he died, the whole nation was quiet as, they would flip it hard if they knew he was being used as a metaphor in rap songs....

NightMares · 10-24-2006, 10:38 AM

this shit is wack many people get sed in songs n no1 crys like steve irwins manager plus who cares that rass kass shit was wack

ChUcK C · 10-24-2006, 10:40 AM

fuck da faggot steve irwin

cadillac_grillz · 10-24-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Day

papoose used steve irwin in one of his songs too and nobody said nothin'

read the lyrics, he is not dissing steve irwin, not at all, he has used what happened to steve irwin as a metaphor to diss the game!

cadillac_grillz · 10-24-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-unit soldier chuk c

fuck da faggot steve irwin

that shit right there is disrespectful, you dont even know the dude!

G Bird · 10-24-2006, 10:45 AM

Ras Kass is right, thats not dissing Irwin.

R.I.P. Steve Irwin

ComptonsKid · 10-24-2006, 10:45 AM

man this dude kass is so sad, hes got no shit in the works no buzz hes just lashin out cause game knocked his ass out, that line is wack as fuck anyway

criff · 10-24-2006, 10:47 AM

ahh what the fuck is this shit? he didnt talk shit about croc hunter.. thats what happened.. the stingray killed him? why cant he say that? fuck off

Jack Frost · 10-24-2006, 10:59 AM

propz. people are over reacting to ras's song. it wasnt dissing steve irwin anyway.

R.I.P. to Steve Irwin though...

mitch4397 · 10-24-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-unit soldier chuk c

fuck da faggot steve irwin

i hope his spirit chokes u in ur sleep...

irwin was a funny cunt, just decking animals

RIP

G-UNIT KICKS JUNIOR · 10-24-2006, 11:47 AM

fuck that dumb fuck steve irwin fagget ass nigga

hasan · 10-24-2006, 11:55 AM

lol I cant believe what kind of commenst I'm reading here

Spike S.S.K. · 10-24-2006, 12:04 PM

damn shit gets blown up for nothing
its hip hop people, rass aint the first to say sum like that
he didnt disrespect steve

Purple Haze · 10-24-2006, 12:06 PM

Ras Kass=Wackness

that-damn-good · 10-24-2006, 12:24 PM

good looks

RussianBanger · 10-24-2006, 12:32 PM

its the punch Game took at ugly face that made him dumb!

G-UNIT - UK · 10-24-2006, 12:41 PM

propz its just a metaphor tho everythink rass sed was true

ns_diplomat · 10-24-2006, 01:01 PM

true...its just a metaphor...its nothing man!

10-24-2006, 10:00 AM	#1
YoungKR07 Anotha Day Anotha Dollar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sagnasty, MI Posts: 4,252 Repped: 2,240 Repped 2,529 Times in 227 Posts Neg Reps: 26 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	10/24/06 - 10/24/06 Ras Kass Responds To Crocodile Hunter's Manager 10/24/06 - 10/24/06 Ras Kass Responds To Crocodile Hunter's Manager Rapper Ras Kass has responded to criticism surrounding a line on his recently released diss track to rival The Game, in which he references the death of Steve "The Crocodile Hunter" Irwin. Irwin's manager John Stainton lashed out at the rapper yesterday (Oct. 23) in the Sydney Morning Herald, because of a line in the 6-minute battle rap titled "Gayme Over" in which Ras Kass raps: "You're the waste of LA/get blast up in LA/face down, ass up in LA/you the Crocodile Hunter, I am the stingray" "I just find it a bit sad that people have to stoop to that," Stainton told the Sydney Morning Herald. "It is disappointing. I can't understand the point of it. There are other references they can make that will put the point across." Irwin was fatally wounded on Sept. 4, while diving near Australia's Great Barrier Reef. A barb from a stingray pierced his chest as he was filming a segment for his eight-year-old daughter's new TV series. Ras Kass responded to Stainton's criticism by writing an open letter to the Sydney Morning Herald to defend his choice of words. "Every person should be treated with an equal brush stroke, or no one should, and everything must be considered in context," Ras said in the open letter. "I am a hip hop artist. Hip-hop is like any other art form; nothing is sacred, nothing is off limits. As such, I have used historical events and current events as metaphors to express a greater perspective to certain ideas and points. At other times, I myself, have been referenced- be it in a positive or negative light. That is part of the creative process and the nature of what rap music is. I in no way have, or have had any ill will towards the late Steve Irwin." Ras Kass said the line was one of many insults directed at his rival The Game. He explained that he used Irwin's death as a metaphor-- but the usage didn't make a positive or negative statement about Irwin or his death. The Watts-bred rapper also said the line was being blown out of proportion in comparison to some of the other jabs he takes at Game during their latest round of battling, since a physical confrontation in an L.A. nightclub in September sparked the feud. "Mr. Stainton doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned with other references that one could misconstrue as homophobic or misogynistic, let alone is he concerned with the potential violence in hip hop or black-on-black violence," Ras Kass said. "He only seems to be bothered by one line. I am just saying that consistency would be nice. If you aren't from the hip hop culture and are not familiar with it then you are not qualified to judge it. Whether American or Australian, every human life is valuable; otherwise it makes it appear that Mr. Stainton thinks that only one man's is." __________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Formerly Known As King Richard07 Callin My Name Is Like Callin Candyman R.I.P M.J

10-24-2006, 10:45 AM	#13
G Bird Travis G Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest 715 Posts: 8,092 Repped: 3,493 Repped 1,860 Times in 224 Posts Neg Reps: 4 Neg Repped at 53 Times in 22 Posts	Ras Kass is right, thats not dissing Irwin. R.I.P. Steve Irwin __________________ "I went in for an interview, for delivery / "Locked up, felonies?" now the dude quizzin me / I'm workin on my future, why you need to know my history? / All he did was Google me, no big mystery"

10-24-2006, 12:24 PM	#22
that-damn-good Cerebral Assassin Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MTL Posts: 7,589 Repped: 859 Repped 4,150 Times in 472 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	good looks __________________

10-24-2006, 12:32 PM	#23
RussianBanger Stay in school! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,635 Repped: 80 Repped 56 Times in 11 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	its the punch Game took at ugly face that made him dumb! __________________ CURRRRTTIIIIISSSSSSS!

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10-24-2006, 10:02 AM	#2
m0nghead Its Shaaaaaaaady Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 57 Repped: 2 Repped 3 Times in 2 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	tone it down ras, u the unit n all, but shit mayne aint no reason for that, that dude was safe as houses!

10-24-2006, 10:07 AM	#3
Katch 26 aka 'E'-ThUg KiLLaH....!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: aYo FK WheRe Ya At Kid, Itz WhErE U Fr0m, 'Cause WheRe Im Fr0m Niaz Pack Nuthin' but Da Big Gunz Posts: 5,004 Repped: 687 Repped 6,669 Times in 629 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah there wasnt any point of saying that , rass couldve thought up something alot better dissing the game and not dissing someone who lived on the other side of the planet ...............................peace r.i.p steve irwin (crazy croc hunter)

10-24-2006, 10:09 AM	#4
NEWSKULL PORN ADDICT Join Date: May 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 14,621 Repped: 1,718 Repped 2,687 Times in 197 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 4 Times in 3 Posts	This Dude need to chill for real... How pathetic to get offended by metaphores...

10-24-2006, 10:19 AM	#6
Chobie Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 2,609 Repped: 35 Repped 759 Times in 337 Posts Neg Reps: 107 Neg Repped at 171 Times in 114 Posts	Fuck Doja!!

10-24-2006, 10:23 AM	#7
JEarly Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Hood and Proud Bitch From Zone 4 Atl To East Sel To Flatbush hoe Posts: 1,838 Repped: 542 Repped 126 Times in 21 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey man even em uses dead people in songs so dont trip. cause rass is using it to air out game. I mean its battle yall niccuz is sensitive like you never heard worst in the hood. propz

10-24-2006, 10:25 AM	#8
sykoaus Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 17 Repped: 1 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz on news, i live in aus, luckily not many people know to much about the use of irwins death yet (in the battle diss), no lie when he died, the whole nation was quiet as, they would flip it hard if they knew he was being used as a metaphor in rap songs....

10-24-2006, 10:38 AM	#9
NightMares Represnt Ya' Hood Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 129 Repped: 21 Repped 3 Times in 3 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	this shit is wack many people get sed in songs n no1 crys like steve irwins manager plus who cares that rass kass shit was wack

10-24-2006, 10:40 AM	#10
ChUcK C Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southside Jamaica Queens,New York Posts: 7,072 Repped: 2,941 Repped 27 Times in 13 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	fuck da faggot steve irwin

10-24-2006, 10:45 AM	#14
ComptonsKid Take That, Take That Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,034 Repped: 42 Repped 9 Times in 3 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	man this dude kass is so sad, hes got no shit in the works no buzz hes just lashin out cause game knocked his ass out, that line is wack as fuck anyway

10-24-2006, 10:47 AM	#15
criff You Should Know Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,072 Repped: 2,760 Repped 105 Times in 26 Posts Neg Reps: 62 Neg Repped at 2 Times in 2 Posts	ahh what the fuck is this shit? he didnt talk shit about croc hunter.. thats what happened.. the stingray killed him? why cant he say that? fuck off

10-24-2006, 10:59 AM	#16
Jack Frost Natural Born Killah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,144 Repped: 145 Repped 125 Times in 51 Posts Neg Reps: 3 Neg Repped at 10 Times in 7 Posts	propz. people are over reacting to ras's song. it wasnt dissing steve irwin anyway. R.I.P. to Steve Irwin though...

10-24-2006, 11:47 AM	#18
G-UNIT KICKS JUNIOR Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 175 Repped: 0 Repped 0 Times in 0 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	fuck that dumb fuck steve irwin fagget ass nigga

10-24-2006, 11:55 AM	#19
hasan WEST SIDA Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 12,201 Repped: 8,471 Repped 23 Times in 11 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	lol I cant believe what kind of commenst I'm reading here

10-24-2006, 12:04 PM	#20
Spike S.S.K. Strength & Honor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 10,000 Repped: 4,022 Repped 2,377 Times in 237 Posts Neg Reps: 8 Neg Repped at 25 Times in 15 Posts	damn shit gets blown up for nothing its hip hop people, rass aint the first to say sum like that he didnt disrespect steve

10-24-2006, 12:06 PM	#21
Purple Haze Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 473 Repped: 91 Repped 100 Times in 29 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ras Kass=Wackness

10-24-2006, 12:41 PM	#24
G-UNIT - UK Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west midz Posts: 525 Repped: 54 Repped 39 Times in 8 Posts Neg Reps: 0 Neg Repped at 0 Times in 0 Posts	propz its just a metaphor tho everythink rass sed was true

10-24-2006, 01:01 PM	#25
ns_diplomat Reppin' 514 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 514 - MTL - 514 Posts: 14,944 Repped: 664 Repped 1,322 Times in 537 Posts Neg Reps: 42 Neg Repped at 76 Times in 61 Posts	true...its just a metaphor...its nothing man!